Kebba,
Thanks for your reply.All honest Gambians know that your side of the struggle
is having the TRUTH.This is why, you have to handle matters diplomatically,as
my friend (Mohammed Jassey-Conteh) does,not to loose the honest people
with theYaya government.Kebba,our society is totally divided by this Yaya
Jammeh regime and if we are not careful,we will go into a mess.If so,then we
will not be better than Yaya Jammeh.There are many people with Yaya,who
know very well that Yaya has messed and he is still a mess to Gambians but we
should deal with them in a polite way and be ready to compromise with them to
be loyal to us.Kebba,I really understand your positions and definately I will
not blame people for showing out their anger,towards this intolerant and barbaric
regime.I would have loved to see Gambians show Yaya that he cannot split us
for his own interest.We are all of the same family and really,what is happening
in the Gambia today,should not have happened.May the Almighty Allah (SWT)
helps us unite and be able to reconcile,with a Yayaless Gambia.
Elhajj.
Dampha Kebba wrote:
> Elhajj, thanks for the reply. you know i really want you to be on our side
> of the struggle. but you have to realize that this is war. war is fought by
> people. there are people that have clearly sided with yaya in this war.
> people that are poised to murder us, tell on us, abduct us, rape our women,
> maim our children. with all due respect to you, i cannot ignore these
> people. yaya is nobody by himself. if we are not careful with our sense of
> forgiveness, we might send the wrong message to these bandits. Sharia (not
> to mention our Constitution) legislates on crime and punishment. Elhajj,
> please do me a favor and just read again what Kabir wrote few months ago
> about good and evil. i learnt a lot from that yesterday. i know you are a
> man of God. you would not have any difficulty understanding where i stand
> after you read that. I would have reproduced the message here but there are
> certain things in that posting that we might not want to repeat. so in due
> course, i'll try and send a redacted version of that message. Elhajj, i'll
> leave it here for now because like i said, i want you firmly on our side;
> the side of TRUTH and GOOD.
> Saul, Mballow and Hamjatta, thanks very much for speaking again on the side
> of GOOD (versus EVIL). Mballow, rest assured that we are monitoring all the
> corrupt activities of this government. if i do not talk about it, it is
> because of certain priorities. all these corrupt people (both in the private
> and public sector) will account for their ill gotten gains. again, this is
> not about revenge. impunity just breeds resentment and encourages corruption
> and callousness. so people have to be accountable.
> KB
>
> >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: The Makalo, Foday Mystery||||
> >Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:42:01 +0200
> >
> >Kebba Dampha,
> >Thank you very much,for your mail concerning the Makalo issue.I am sorry
> >for late
> >
> >response because I travelled a long journey with my family and was very
> >tired
> >yesterday,to reply your mail.Kebba,I don`t think you did any wrong in
> >forwarding
> >the mail to the Gambia-L,because the issue has already been in the L and it
> >needs
> >
> >to be discussed.As I have said previously,Ebrima has the right to defend
> >his
> >father`s
> >image,if they think he is innocent.You also have the right,to call for
> >Justice
> >and a
> >proper enquiry about the alledged murder of our brother.I respect people`s
> >view
> >because that is why we need to debate,to educate each other.I really would
> >have
> >even love to get a debate with our Butcher ( Yaya Jammeh ),to know why he
> >should kill us,maltreat us and do us all these bad things,he is doing to
> >us.I
> >still
> >cannot understand how our fellow Gambian can treat us this way.
> >Kebba,we are angry with the situation but still we can fight for Justice
> >and call
> >for
> >the truth,without destroying our relations with innocent people who are
> >just
> >working
> >for the Yaya regime for survivals.I read somewhere,Ousainou Darboe saying
> >that
> >he has many supporters in the Yaya government and this I believe very much.
> >We should all understand that,we are undergoing a very difficult situation
> >in our
> >
> >country and if we follow our tempers,even after Yaya is removed,the
> >killings and
> >maltreatments of our people etc. will continue with the next regime.If we
> >call
> >for a halt to all these things,we should be ready to compromise with the
> >other
> >side of the fence.There are many people who has no choice,but they are not
> >supporting Yaya.
> >I want everybody to understand my position,not to misunderstand me.I have
> >never
> >got anything for my interest from the previous regime,and neither this one
> >too.I
> >spent
> >most of life outside the Gambia and has ever since been engaged on my
> >private
> >business and hope to continue with this.I would have even love to see one
> >of you
> >gentlemen in this forum to be our future President.I am in support of any
> >President
> >who will come and sympathize with us and love us as fellow countrymen.I am
> >not
> >interested in any personal gains from any government.I am just after the
> >truth.Don`t be surprise to see people like me go against another
> >government,if
> >they come with wrong policies against their people.My support goes to
> >anyone
> >going with the truth and doing the right thing.
> >Kebba,I support you 100% about the call for proper burial for the massacred
> >people in mass graves and else where.Everybody should go against Yaya and
> >call for this to happen.The Prophet (PBUH),may Allah (SWT) bless him and
> >grant
> >him peace said
> >"If a man dies,it is a collective obligation on residents of that
> >particular
> >area,to make
> >The funeral prayer(SALATUL JANAZA).This is known as "FARDH-AL KIFAYA" in
> >arabic.If no one comes out to perform the prayer on that deceased
> >of that community,the community as a whole is deemed sinful in the sight of
> >Allah(SWT)".
> >HE (PBUH) alse said,
> > "When a man dies,his actions cease except for three thing:
> > a sadaqa which goes on,knowledge which continues to
> > benifit people or a righteous son who makes supplication
> > for him".
> >So Kebba,your call for this proper burial has been backed by the above
> >words of
> >the prophet.I hope the people very near to Yaya will give him this message.
> >I would also like to tell Ebrima Manneh that,he is welcome to contact me
> >anytime
> >he wants.I am not an enemy to anybody.I joined this line on the bases of
> >truth
> >and
> >nothing else.I just believe that Yaya should go,after all these terrible
> >catastrophes.
> >Send my personal greetings to your father.
> >
> >Elhajj..
> >
> >Dampha Kebba wrote:
> >
> > > Elhajj, I regret bringing this thing to G_L. Mr. Manneh sent us this
> > > correspondence in private and I think that he might have had his own
> >reason
> > > for doing that. I respected that and replied him in private last night.
> >I
> > > receive a number of hate/junk mail from people who do not appreciate my
> > > constant criticism of Yaya and his supporters. I deal with them in
> >private.
> > > I would not have had a problem had you just sent in your reply without
> > > sending a message where am being personally attacked for no just reason
> >and
> > > Mr. Manneh is arguing his dad's case. As I indicate in my (private)
> >reply to
> > > Manneh last night, his venom is being addressed to the wrong person.
> >These
> > > kinds of attacks will not prevent me from saying what is right. It will
> >not
> > > prevent me from calling murderers, informants, rapists, liars etc what
> >they
> > > are. If Manneh or his friends want to come to G_L and prove that his dad
> > > does not have a garden in Barra, fine with me. All I want, is for the
> >matter
> > > to be investigated, the body found and Makalo given a decent burial. If
> >in
> > > the process, people are found guilty of committing crimes, those people
> > > should be punished. What is wrong with that? If my dad was involved, I
> >will
> > > still hold the same opinion. So what's up with this kid attacking me
> > > personally and these attacks landing on G_L. I will never apologize for
> >the
> > > comment I made in response to Saul's piece. This boy succeeded in
> >nothing
> > > but further exposing his dad. According to one of the responses I
> >received
> > > (privately) to his mail, his dad is also implicated in other issues
> > > concerning soldiers and alleged coup plots. Had it not been for his
> > > ill-advised mail to me, that might have even escaped a lot of people. I
> >want
> > > you to also realize that am not doing what am doing for political gain.
> >I
> > > have no interest whatsoever in politics and never had. What I have, is a
> > > strong sense of justice. People who know me well, know that I was
> >fighting
> > > injustice since before Yaya. I was contributing articles to the Daily
> > > Observer since 1994 denouncing the kangaroo courts we were then calling
> > > commissions of inquiry. And before that, I was equally critical to some
> >of
> > > the injustice of the Jawara regime. Am not an angry man. Am not an idle
> >man
> > > either ('wasting my talents'). I have a very demanding and rewarding
> >job.
> > > But that would not prevent me from pointing out injustice in my country
> >and
> > > trying to do something about it. If family members or friends of mine
> >are
> > > involved in unlawful things, that would not stop me from saying that it
> >is
> > > wrong and calling for them to be punished. I would gladly put myself in
> >the
> > > minority Saul Khan was talking about yesterday; those that would not put
> > > personal interests in front of the interest of the country. Because his
> >mail
> > > has been forwarded to G_L, I feel compelled to forward my response to
> >him.
> > > See below.
> > > KB
> > >
> > > ___________________Reply to Manneh _____________________________________
> > >
> > > To the people this message has been copied to, please accept my
> >apologies
> > > for dragging you into this.
> > > Mr. Manneh, go and reread what I wrote. Better still, let me reproduce
> >to
> > > you what I said about your dad: "Well, am no journalist, but I would
> >have
> > > thought that by now journalists should be questioning that Yaya
> > > informant in Nuimi and digging all over his backyards." If anyone, you
> >are
> > > the one calling your dad an informant. You must have pieced up what I
> >wrote
> > > together with what is common knowledge from Kanteh's revelations to come
> >up
> > > with this conclusion. Feel free to conclude that I meant your dad when I
> > > mentioned a Yaya informant in Nuimi. What's wrong with investigating
> > > Kanteh's allegations? If those investigations lead to your dad, so be
> >it. My
> > > friend, I will continue to be on the back of Yaya and his supporters
> >until I
> > > draw my last breathe on earth. Like I said before, if that means
> >sacrificing
> > > my own blood brother, I will gladly do so. This is not about hate.
> >This is
> > > about justice. We should all account for our actions. Rather than
> >wasting
> > > time with me, tell people on the ground in gambia to investigate this
> >issue
> > > thoroughly and exonerate the innocent people. If your dad is innocent,
> >fine
> > > with me. If he is not, he must face the music. Next time you want to
> >vent
> > > try talking to Kanteh. I won't even waste my time dealing with your
> >other
> > > gibberish because contrary to what you think, it is correspondence like
> >this
> > > that waste my precious time and not going to G_L to disparage yaya and
> >his
> > > supporters.
> > > KB
> > > ________________________________________________________________________
> > >
> > > >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: The Makalo, Foday Mystery||||
> > > >Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 06:50:01 +0200
> > > >
> > > >Ebrima Manneh,
> > > >Thank you very much,for your mail addressed to all of us.You are
> >definately
> > > >correct
> > > >with all my friends you have mentioned in the letter.Even your
> >father,is my
> > > >good
> > > >friend and nothing has ever gone wrong between us.We really respect
> >each
> > > >other.
> > > >I am always saying that,"I am 100% against the Yaya regime but I must
> >be
> > > >very
> > > >careful not to hurt friends and relatives associating with them".All
> >this
> > > >is just
> > > >about
> > > >DUNYA and we will leave everything here and return empty to where we
> >are
> > > >orignated.I have never been involved in politics and has no aim to be
> > > >involved in
> > > >politics.I am against the Yaya government because of the open killings
> >and
> > > >the
> > > >maltreatment of our people.The Gambia is very small and we are all
> > > >relatives,so
> > > >if Yaya had acknowledged sympathy for the people,I really would not
> >have
> > > >cared
> > > >about the worldly goods that we will leave here.
> > > >Ebrima,you have all rights to defend your father`s image because I
> > > >myself,was
> > > >shocked to hear Alh.Tabora`s involvement in this.Only God knows what
> >the
> > > >truth
> > > >is,on this Makalo issue.I know your father personally and I know that
> >he
> > > >has no
> > > >garden in Barra.Sankung Badjie is my friend and we have visited each
> >other
> > > >many
> > > >times and I know that he knows your father has no garden at Barra.This
> >is
> > > >why,I
> > > >told them that Alh.Kanteh can be correct that Foday was murdered but
> >the
> > > >real
> > > >location of his remains are yet to be known.That was why,I asked them
> >to
> > > >get more
> > > >informations from Alh.Kanteh.I fully agree with you that,your father
> >has no
> > > >garden at Barra and you can lead anybody to show you the mentioned
> >place.
> > > >I also think that your father`s association with them has brought all
> >this
> > > >accusations
> > > >and I would urge you to tell him,to get out of this tyrannical regime
> >and
> > > >concentrate
> > > >on his personal business.The post that has been given to him,is a post
> >of
> > > >"SHAYTAN" and me as his friend,kindly ask him to resign from the
> > > >post.Soldiers
> > > >are also accusing him and all this creates him more enimies and you the
> > > >children,
> > > >
> > > >will be left in the battle.Ebrima,I would therefore urge you to convey
> >my
> > > >message
> > > >to
> > > >your father.
> > > > ELHADJ.MUSTAPHA FYE
> > > >
> > > >[log in to unmask] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My dear friends,
> > > > > I hope that you will not be caught off guard by this e-mail
> >because
> > > >of
> > > > > your interest in the mystery surrounding the disappearance of Mr.
> > > >Makalo. I
> > > > > hope also not to dissappoint you for not shedding any new light on
> >this
> > > > > nebulous and enigmatic saga. This is actually meant for Mr. Kebba
> > > >Dampha the
> > > > > young man who made accusatory remarks in Gambia L at Alh. Tabora
> >Manneh,
> > > >for
> > > > > the rest of you guys (Ebou, Elhajj, Saul and Ous) I forwarded this
> >mail
> > > >to
> > > > > you solely because of your interest in the affairs and to set some
> > > >things
> > > > > straight.
> > > > > My name is Ebrima Manneh, the son of the man Mr. Dampha has
> >accused
> > > >as an
> > > > > informer and a possible role player either directly or indirectly
> > > > > (unknowingly) in the above mentioned mystery. I want you guys to
> >know
> > > >that I
> > > > > am neither a defender nor a supporter of the government or Mr.
> >Badgie.
> > > >But
> > > > > it is incumbent upon me out of filial duty to clear the smoke Mr.
> >Dampha
> > > >has
> > > > > raised at my father. I am not vexed or intimidated by the empty
> > > >allegations
> > > > > he made but I think it keen and wise to dialogue with decent and
> >fair
> > > >minded
> > > > > individuals who are seriously in pursuit of justice and peace.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr. Dampha;
> > > > > I am an avid surfer of the net but I have eschewed discussion
> >groups
> > > >in
> > > > > Gambia L especially ones that are too political in nature.
> >Personally,
> > > >I
> > > > > have no interest in politics - atleast not in the near future. I
> >must
> > > > > confess to you that politics: especially African politics is too
> >rough,
> > > >dirty
> > > > > and ugly. Even the character of angels cannot be preserved should
> >they
> > > > > choose to engage in our this mud-slinging game we call politics. I
> > > >believe
> > > > > we are of the same generation, a breed of new and dynamic Africans
> > > >undergoing
> > > > > an evolution. Thus I can partly understand where you are coming
> >from.
> > > > > I must digress now to the issue at stake that compelled me to
> > > >sending you
> > > > > this e-mail. I am very disheartened and dejected at the rumour
> > > >surrounding
> > > > > Mr. Makalo and I pray to God that it is just one of the political
> > > > > maneuverings ......... I mean I hope it is not true. I think
> >Makalo is
> > > >a
> > > > > good man and no one deserve what you have alleged (murder).
> > > > > I will not dilly-dally on the credibility and or reliability of
> >Mr.
> > > > > Kanteh for, I am assuming, he was one of your blacklisted nemesis
> >until
> > > >he
> > > > > made reproachful and castigating remarks against his former allies.
> >I
> > > >wonder
> > > > > what accessory mean to you? What's up with his long silence? I
> >have
> > > > > noticed that you are consumed with anger and hatred. Therefore, I
> >beg
> > > >you to
> > > > > excuse me to condescend to your level by displaying the animalistic
> > > >feature
> > > > > in man that has taken over and blinded you.
> > > > > You have unwisely imparted your talent. In you stupor you have
> > > >spewed
> > > > > invective and diatribe statements at a man you never knew nor met.
> >This
> > > >is
> > > > > clearly a manifestation of your inexperience, uncouthness,
> >ignorance,
> > > > > irrationality and myopic vision. Sadly, Mr. Dampha, what a waste of
> > > >talent
> > > > > for a young and promising African (Gambian) like you to expend your
> > > >energy
> > > > > and time in irresponsible and speculative journalism. But no, I
> >have
> > > >noticed
> > > > > that you have unconciously and unwittingly cloaked yourself in the
> > > >borrowed
> > > > > but tattered garments of journalists. Thus I advice you to seek
> >counsel
> > > >from
> > > > > your friends especially Elhajj inorder for you to master the art of
> > > >reporting
> > > > > and journalism.
> > > > > I am not going to waste a moment to embellish my fathers image.
> >He
> > > >is a
> > > > > good and honest humanbeing, hopeful time will proof that. Regarding
> >the
> > > > > sites you've mentioned none of them make sense. It cannot be his
> > > >backyard
> > > > > because his neighborhood is a residential neighborhood with a road
> > > >passing in
> > > > > front and in the back of his compound. The Orchard he has is the
> >only
> > > > > alternative. It would be very unwise for anyone to use that site
> > > >because the
> > > > > women in the nearby villages ( a few dozen) use the empty spaces to
> > > >plant
> > > > > vegetables (garden). As Elhajj mentioned, he might have been a
> >friend
> > > >of Mr.
> > > > > Sankung Badgie, but he was and I hope still a friend of the former
> > > >president
> > > > > and vice presidents (B. Darboe & S. Sabally). It is not uncommon
> >for
> > > > > Gambians to display their hospitality by developing friendly
> >relations
> > > >as is
> > > > > common in Gambia L. Seriously if you are interested in pursuing
> >this
> > > >issue
> > > > > and you are convince of the site within the property of my father I
> >will
> > > > > personally love to join any one including your sources in the Gambia
> >to
> > > > > locate the site and bring it to light. Any info that you can come
> >up
> > > >with I
> > > > > will make a trip to The Gambia myself just to assure everyone that
> >I
> > > >mean
> > > > > business.
> > > > > Personally I have no ill-feelings towards anyone. I have an
> > > >independent
> > > > > mind, and in search of only what is best and fair to me and to the
> > > >world. I
> > > > > will never in my life disrespect and demean another human being and
> >I
> > > >expect
> > > > > no less in turn. Whatever your motives and aspirations are my
> >friend I
> > > >care
> > > > > less but I wish you all the best in your endeavours. I wish not to
> >make
> > > > > enemies with anyone, that is my choice, and you are entitled to
> >yours.
> > > >But a
> > > > > word of advice to you, never in the history of the world has any
> > > >individual
> > > > > or societal pursuit succeeded long enough if forged out of anger,
> > > >hatred,
> > > > > chaos, revenge and envy. I hope you know what your real interest is
> >for
> > > >if
> > > > > you do you will have a different opinion on life and people. I will
> > > >conclude
> > > > > by using a wise man's saying, and I hope this will be the begining
> >of
> > > >some
> > > > > sort of a meaningful relationship between us: I repeat quote and
> >unquote
> > > > > Dostoyevsky's saying:
> > > > > Tell me, who was it who first declared, proclaiming it to
> >the
> > > >whole
> > > > > world, that a man does evil only because he does not know
> >his
> > > >real
> > > > > interests, and if he is enlightened and has his eyes opened
> >to
> > > >his
> > > > > own best and norman interests, man will cease to do evil and
> >at
> > > >once
> > > > > become virtuous and noble, because when he is enlightened
> >and
> > > > > understands what will really benefit him he will see his own
> > > >best
> > > > > interest
> > > > > in virtue, and since it is well known that no man can
> >knowingly
> > > >act
> > > > > against
> > > > > his best interests, consequently he will inevitably, so to
> > > >speak,
> > > > > begin to
> > > > > do good. Oh, what a baby|
> > > > >
> > > > > My friend I hope you don't feel offended. We can learn so much
> >from
> > > >eath
> > > > > other besides it is very UnGambian and inhuman for us to smother
> >each
> > > >other.
> > > > > Africa is the most backward nation in terms of material affairs and
> > > >human
> > > > > development. We have lots of important issues to combat, viz,
> >poverty,
> > > > > illiteracy, tribalism etc. let us please not add enemity to the
> >list.
> > > >Best
> > > > > of luck to you all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ebrima Tabora Manneh
> > > > >
> > > >
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