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kalilu camara <[log in to unmask]>
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Some of the times when i write i cry at the same time so sometimes
i see through blurry drops of tears that being the case i sometimes write
not what i want on the scream plus iam a terrible speller am sure you
notice! But all the same 3 legged race! Most of the toes are in the mid.

>From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: For Buhary Gassama
>Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:40:05 GMT
>
>IT IS AMAZING HOW MUCH YOU REMIND ME OF MY GOOD'OL FRIEND EDI SIDIBEH!  I'M
>SOMETIMES INCLINED TO BELIEVE THAT YOU MUST BE HIM OR OF CLOSE KIN IN
>LANGUAGE CONTEXT.  USUALLY IN EDI'S CASE, I DO SUCCEED TO SOLVE HIS RIDDLES
>WITH A LITTLE MIGRAINE.  THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT YOURS THAT I CAN'T STILL
>FIGURE OUT.  FOR EXAMPLE, YOU SAID AND I QUOTE:
>"The fact remain if you brother knows you not his keeper he is highly
>programmed not to be your keeper !The reason we all think alike in seemilar
>violence is that of the environments plot and others hidden, Its not the
>bottles fault that its either water or pioson!!What u call into the bottle
>that is whAT IT becameth (cruel intent or real promises or worst still
>realized shame and pain)?"
>
>What are you exactly referring to Karl?  You are quite interesting.
>Enlighten me.
>
>Essa
>
>
>>From: kalilu camara <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: For Buhary Gassama
>>Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 05:35:04 GMT
>>
>>No one can bring about a lasting peace today by means of war!The way to
>>make a man eat you alive is to eat his begotten experience by denying
>>him the formers existence. in his weird mind he know you are only in form
>>human!He will hunt u down to cut you before you catch him on the plow
>>because in his minds eye he cant see why not if that is the kind of faith
>>you have in store for his mistakes! The fact remain if you brother knows
>>you
>>not his keeper he is highly programmed not to be your keeper !The reason
>>we
>>all think alike in seemilar violence is that of the environments plot and
>>others hidden, Its not the bottles fault that its either water or
>>pioson!!What u call into the bottle that is whAT IT becameth
>>(cruel intent or real promises or worst still realized shame and pain)?
>>How can you ask me to let you quench fire with gasoline when River Gambia
>>runs right through the mothers name!What do you want me to say
>>to you that i care about the whole basket? yes i will always that much so
>>i
>>seem to understand some of the times i certainly love regardless.The
>>scream
>>is for attention! not for me i am just one of you!
>>I maybe flawed right before your eyes well is true iam !
>>But in my short experience to get the desired results you must do what
>>works!Anything less or more is not compartible God will reject it!
>>ITS LIKE A PHONE CALL YOU HAVE TO GET ALL THE NUMBERS RIGHT!!
>>The reason iam still talking is that i have not striked a cord in
>>both Banjul and Koina yet! But peace is the promiseland....
>>From Mountains of welldecorated Food on the streets OF Banjul to this!
>>What we need is a talkshow to admit our collective faults and
>>mutually forgive each other even if we cannot identify our own share in
>>the
>>unfortunate scenry! Difficult ofcourse but there are more difficult
>>roads we are otherwise go to tread together!
>>    May Allah Bless our only Nation
>>
>>>From: Matarr Sajaw <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: For Buhary Gassama
>>>Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:38:28 EDT
>>>
>>>Hello Mr. Gassama,
>>>              I want to thank you for your postings on the challenge for
>>>those
>>>advocating violence to change the system. Just curious what challenge you
>>>have for those advocating peace would be, because in my view the
>>>consequences
>>>in the latter are death, torture, etc..
>>>              Your Fears are very genuine because you are in your own
>>>rights
>>>underestimating the power of the people. You state in your positing that
>>>"those who advocate peace and violence to change the system are living a
>>>fallacy;" What in your view is the right approach to free our people from
>>>this oppressive government.
>>>               I hate to quote another people in our struggle to liberate
>>>our
>>>people because of my sincere believe that power belongs to the people and
>>>change is brought about when people feel the need to change their
>>>circumstances. Given that position, I have tried to post my feelings and
>>>foresight for a better Gambia. To call that kind of conviction a fallacy
>>>without a definition undermines the survival and success of our struggle
>>>to
>>>move forward.
>>>              Benjamin Franklin once stated that "those who give up
>>>essential
>>>liberty, to preserve a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty
>>>nor
>>>safety." Being a man of great wisdom and foresight, I believe that you
>>>can
>>>understand that for our country to be liberated, it must be stripped from
>>>the
>>>vicious circle of human degradation, intimidation and oppression. To do
>>>anything less would be unpatriotic.
>>>               Now let me clarify why I advocate the use of force to rid
>>>our
>>>system of these Bandits.
>>>The only form of discipline that a criminal understands is the use of
>>>force.
>>>I know that some social scientists on this list will differ with my
>>>statement. The reason why we build prisons and rehabilitation centers is
>>>to
>>>first capture these social rejects and reorient them to humanity. You
>>>cannot
>>>have rehabilitation without conviction. The country that we call home is
>>>being ruled being sociopaths and the only way you can send these kinds of
>>>bullies a message is by capturing and convicting them.
>>>               By your own admission, your stated that violence has some
>>>severe consequences. I share the same believe, because if these idiots
>>>find
>>>it necessary to blow up people to secure their position then why can't we
>>>do
>>>the same to them and regain our country. If they feel the need to torture
>>>our
>>>people why can't we send them to the electric chair. If they can arrest
>>>citizens and question their citizenship then why can't we tell them that
>>>they
>>>are wrong.
>>>               You cannot say damn the war and damn the peace while
>>>maintaining that you are patriotic and express genuine interest for the
>>>people of your country. If you hate the war then you must join and fight
>>>for
>>>peace. If you hate piece then you must join the bandits and wage war. You
>>>cannot have it both ways.
>>>              One thing that is very clear is that present situation in
>>>the
>>>Gambia is a timing bomb ready to explode. Humans cannot live in
>>>circumstances
>>>that restricts their lives to decency and the pursuit of happiness. If a
>>>position to defend our sovereignty is not taken, then we can go ahead and
>>>sign it over to some guy name Foday Sonko who took is people to the dark
>>>evil
>>>of indiscriminate vengeance. If we do not act now then we will be selling
>>>our
>>>country to a man name Charles Taylor who took is people to worthless
>>>victory.
>>>              What we need is to strike a compromise with our conviction
>>>and
>>>make a sacrifice for our country. We can do so by rallying behind the
>>>opposition. I can see that a lot of that is being written about. If UDP
>>>is
>>>the vehicle through which we can eradicate these vermin from our land,
>>>then
>>>lets provide them with a structure to guarantee their survival. UDP
>>>likewise
>>>must come out and tell us what their position is in the struggle is. If
>>>they
>>>want to recreate the same oppressive government as Jammeh and the defunct
>>>Jawara Government then we must forge an alliance with a minority party
>>>and
>>>muscle them up with a framework for success.
>>>               I hope that you understand my frustration and conviction
>>>for
>>>an
>>>immediate resolution for change. People of your intellect and experience
>>>can
>>>help stir us further by being firm and direct. We can all disagree in our
>>>political paradigms but if our goal is the same then lets explore all
>>>possibilities. Lets not take the "Yalla bahna" approach. Lets build a
>>>phenomenon that will ultimately help us realize our goal for lasting
>>>democracy.
>>>                Lastly, I want to thank you for your postings to the net.
>>>I
>>>want to remind you that Matarr is willing to join and die for the Gambia.
>>>Fear of the unknown should not be a retardant for a peaceful ending for
>>>our
>>>people. Ones conviction for ones country is not a measure of distance but
>>>in
>>>my view the dedication one has to put words into actions and actions into
>>>reality and reality into prosperity for the common person. If ones
>>>position
>>>is to serve his master then he should be proud to say "sir yes sir."
>>>               I will leave you with the following song
>>>   Although it is an American liberty song, i think it serves some
>>>significance for our struggle
>>>
>>>                Come Join hand in hand
>>>                 Brave Americans all
>>>                 And rouse your brave hearts
>>>                 At fair liberty call
>>>                 No tyrannous acts
>>>                 Shall suppress your just claim
>>>                 Or stain with dishonor
>>>                 America's name.
>>>                 In freedom we're born
>>>                 And in freedom we'll live....
>>>
>>>Till next time have a great day.
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>Matarr Sajaw.
>>>Live free or die.
>>>
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