Joe:
Please stop using explicits. You cannot call Sister Jabou that. You
should know better.
Naphiyo,
ML Jassey-Conteh
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Apr 6, 2004 6:32 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Joe Sambou & Tribalism/Joe Sambou
No Jabou, you have lied and are not going to wiggle out of this one. If
calling you a tired ass is profanity, then you will get a lot of it coming
to ya. I am going to hound your old ass till you cough it up. That is a
promise I shall keep.
Chi Jaama
Joe Sambou
>From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Joe Sambou & Tribalism/Joe Sambou
>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 18:16:55 EDT
>
>Joe,
>
>You have lost all sense of reality. Why do you think that endorsing the
>candidacy of Jasseh Conteh has to have anything to do with attacking you
>first? If
>I or anyone else wanted to endorse Conteh, why would we need an excuse? I
>think you are assigning too much importance to yourself.
>While you are trying to lump people and find reasons to label them with
>your
>wild imaginings, another observation I have made about you is that you
>always
>go after those who are especially hard on Jammeh and his illegal regime.
>I hope that does not send you into another profanity binge.
>
>Jabou Joh
>
>In a message dated 4/6/04 2:44:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
>[log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> > Elhajj, you are too funny!
> >
> > "I, for one, heavily suspected you after our Tam Tam interview, when you
> > said you were
> > aware of everything happening on the ground"
> >
> > Thanks for ascribing Godly powers on me. I know everything that is
> > happening in the Gambia, huh!Your relatives and friends online must be
> > ashamed of the slime you've turned into. But then, may be they knew
>about
> > you. While I was on Radio Tam Tam encouraging Gambians to speak out
>against
> > the murderers and criminals in the Gambia, you were busy finding an
> > association of me and the APRC. Elhajj, I called you a Jammeh
>sympathizer
> > years ago and that is in the archives. Your defense of them is also in
>the
> > archives. Folks on line know Ebou Jallow very well and that is the same
> > person that is going to be your summer guest. The same person I accused
>you
> > of receiving a "Dankaal" from, years ago. Also, the same person that
>Jabou
> > came to apologize for defending ignorantly all this time. Taf, you are
>a
> > hustler and all this flip flop is a hustle. You lied about the first
> > republic in your defense of Yaya then, only to come and tell us that
>Yaya
> > wants to kill you now. Liar, get your ducks in order. Which republic
>are
> > you telling us about? Taf, folks may be silent because this whole
>nonsense
> > is vexation to their souls, but they see clearly you all's rabid minds.
>The
> > link between, Taf, Binneh, Jabou, and Conteh is evident. Remember, your
> > enemy's enemy is your friend. Just nothing but a bunch of idiots that
>are
> > malicious and opportunists. You'll could not even hide your shame. All
>on
> > this list knew you cannot stand my guts, thus you figured you just gang
>up
> > to spread lies about me.
> >
> > Well, while you are at it, why don't you all come out and endorse the
> > candidacy of Jasseh Conteh? Now, if this brother is not the definition
>of
> > lunacy, someone please educate me. For we saw him in all forms. You'll
> > remember his slogan before his swindle with Sheriff Dibba, "Yaya Let My
> > People Go". However, the moment Sheriff duped him into being his Jali,
>he
> > came howling about how he is going to follow his leader and mentor in
> > Sheriff Dibba to join Yaya and how Yaya is working for Gambia.
>Remember,
> > his sermon about the "olive Branch"? Folks, please don't take my word
>for
> > it, visit the archives. Well, Sheriff left the Raccoon in the cold,
>thus
> > his silence for a long time. Now, we see the opportunist surface to
> > announce his candidacy. Is that a coincidence, not at all. Also,
>remember,
> > the same lunatic announced that he was going to Gambia to teach during
>his
> > vacation, just months ago, all nothing but a scheme. Has he said zilch
> > about who all he taught? I asked him about that swindle of his and to
>this
> > day he said zilch? Folks, did Jasseh Conteh also tell us he had any
> > problems in Gambia with the APRC? I wonder why? All this while Joe
>here,
> > has not been to Gambia almost four years ago. Elhajj, your cover is
>blown
> > right there? May be you need to ask Jasseh Conteh his dealing with
>Sheriff
> > while in the Gambia? This malicious lie of you all's will be followed
>to
> > its logical conclusion. You'll shall be exposed for the skunks you turn
> > into. To the sick souls, this will continue.
> >
> > Chi Jaama
> >
> > Joe Sambou
> > >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Joe Sambou & Tribalism/ Conteh/Soffie
> > >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:39:10 +0200
> > >
> > >Joe,
> > >Pls. stop your childish attacks on people again. Do you think your APRC
> > >sycophants will
> > >come here to reveal that you were spying for them? Is Tijan Ceesay "
>Eku
> > >Boopa "?
> > >I, for one, heavily suspected you after our Tam Tam interview, when you
> > >said
> > >you were
> > >aware of everything happening on the ground. Stop attacking Jabou!
>Jassey
> > >Conteh uncovered you!
> > >You are pushing your attacks on everybody now like a mad cow. We are
>not
> > >afraid of our
> > >positions in attacking Yaya Jammeh. He has guns, and WE have our mouths
>and
> > >computers.
> > >
> > >Elhajj.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Joe Sambou" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 7:55 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Joe Sambou & Tribalism/ Conteh/Soffie
> > >
> > >
> > > > Soffie, Jabou is going to tender proof of this venom she spitted.
>And
> > >she
> > > > says she is a Muslim. Chei Jabou? I find you to be a hypocrit from
> > >this
> > > > day on and I suggest that you kneel down and beg for forgiveness
>from
> > >your
> > > > God, for you have literally attempted to murderd your fellow being
> > >because
> > > > of spite. But, this fellow here is not a push over and I'll run you
> > >over
> > > > before you do me. You will someday publicly apologize to me in this
> > >same
> > > > public forum that you came to attempt to assasinate me. I want any
>APRC
> > > > person to come say that I ever called them or spoke with them. Any.
> l
> > >have
> > > > not talked to Tijan Ceesay but twice since his association with
>Yaya.
> > >The
> > > > first was when a mutual friend informed me of Tijan working at the
> > >Embassy.
> > > > Essa Sey was the Ambassador at the time. I came to this very forum
>and
> > > > blasted him for being an opportunist and serving tea to Essa. After
> > >Essa's
> > > > termination, he told me how Tijan was all over him thinking that he
>Essa
> > >was
> > > > spreading that message. Now, Essa is right here on line. Ask him
>if he
> > >did
> > > > not contact me after he was fired? The second was during the Omar
>Gaye
> > >saga
> > > > with Tijan Ceesay and again, all on this forum heard and saw my
>stance
> > >and
> > > > that was the last time I spoke with Tijan. You see Jabou, my
>conscience
> > >is
> > > > clear, thus I can speak on things freely with no baggage. But at
>the
> > >end
> > >of
> > > > the day, you will tell Gambians about this big lie of yours. Jabou,
>if
> > >you
> > > > can talk about Allah the way you do here and come to lie this
>blatant, I
> > > > wonder what else you could do to a humanbeing. To all that
>entertain
> > >Jabou
> > > > here, religiously, I say to you, you are dealing with a very
>vindictive
> > > > person and a hypocrit. You are dealing with a person that will go
>to
> > >any
> > > > lengths to lie big time about any that she cannot control. They
>gheeza
> > >is
> > >a
> > > > control freak and she knows that I am one fellow that does not
>entertain
> > >her
> > > > craziness. Look at her bedfellows in this lie, they constantly are
> > >stroking
> > > > each other's ego and will because they are all drunk with malice.
> > >Besides,
> > > > if they succeed in this filth they are creating in a tribal war in
> > >Gambia,
> > > > yours and mine are going to be the victims. I thought I encountered
> > >slime
> > > > in my life, but this cabal redefined slime to a whole new level. A
> > > > grandmother and a liar. Most folks would shape their lives to age
> > > > gracefully, but not this gheezer. However, I am here to stay, so
>bring
> > >it
> > > > on. Just pathethic and shameful.
> > > >
> > > > Folks, I hate to clutter your mails with this filth, but I am not
>going
> > >to
> > > > let this gheeza or anyone spread this filth here about me. Jabou,
>you
> > > > committed yourself, so Gambians are expecting the dirt you have on
>Joe.
> > >You
> > > > are not going to run away with this one. So, out with it.
> > > >
> > > > Chi jaama
> > > >
> > > > Joe Sambou
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Ceesay, Soffie" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Subject: Re: Joe Sambou & Tribalism/ Conteh/Soffie
> > > > >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:13:24 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >Sister Jabou, thank you. I agree with you. Those aspects of
>'Maslaha'
> > > > >which are detrimental to our lives and livelihood, like many of our
> > >other
> > > > >harmful traditions, has to be done away with by pre-emption. My
> > >concern
> > >is
> > > > >when we start to label each other with that which we are not,
>because
> > >of
> > > > >how we might have come across on this medium, our effectiveness in
>our
> > > > >fight against the tyranny becomes weakened. Use of tribe for
>personal
> > >gain
> > > > >is what's happening, this is Yaya's game and Gambia's problem.
> > >Unfettered
> > > > >sycophancy, which has side-lined tribe, is Gambia's problem. It
> > >becomes
> > > > >our problem when we do not see it for what it is being used for,
>and
> > > > >counter that vigorously by foiling his sinister plan. How do we do
> > >that -
> > > > >Transforming how we think and how others who make thoughtless
>comments
> > > > >think, through civil dialogue; questionning ourselves about our
>"forgna
> > > > >dehs" and make attempts
> > > > >to "hamm" and ask when we do not; and come together to forge the
> > >necessary
> > > > >plan to help Gambia. It is wrong and dangerous to single out the
>Jolas
> > >to
> > > > >vent our anger and frustrations at, for the mis-deeds of a leech
>who
> > >after
> > > > >sucking you dry, hand you over to be fried. I am asking that for
>this
> > > > >fight, let us join hands, hearts, and minds. Let us deal with the
> > >issue
> > >of
> > > > >tribalism in the country on it's own.
> > > > >
> > > > >Soffie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: Jabou Joh [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:45 AM
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Subject: Re: Joe Sambou & Tribalism/ Conteh/Soffie
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Soffie,
> > > > >
> > > > >As always, I appreciate your imput and thanks.
> > > > >However sister, if we off-handedly label this issue as just part of
>the
> > > > >Jammeh problem without bringing it into the open so that we can
> > >pre-empt
> > > > >any larger
> > > > >problems that will arise later when it is too late, I think we wil
> > >lhave
> > > > >regrets only after things have gotten out of hand. The fact that
>there
> > >is
> > > > >favouritism in the allocation of high ranking positions in the army
>as
> > >well
> > > > >as even
> > > > >the availability of basic services like electricity and the cost of
> > >rice
> > > > >which
> > > > >is a basic Gambian staple tells me that this issue is potentially
> > >explosive
> > > > >unless and until we talk about it openly, and in so doing, those
>who
> > >have
> > > > >interest in fermenting this sinister plan will know that the people
>are
> > > > >aware. That
> > > > >simple fact itself can be a deterrent. We Gambians are used to
>adopting
> > >the
> > > > >least confrontational mode and simplifying things to our own
>detriment.
> > > > >We cannot afford to leave any problematic area that this regime has
> > >helped
> > > > >to
> > > > >create.
> > > > >Diplomacy cannot change the feelings of hostility that these
>actions
> > >can
> > > > >brew
> > > > >on the local level, and these seemingly minor details have led to
> > > > >hostilities
> > > > >and became much larger problems elsewhere. Only full exposure of
>the
> > > > >problem
> > > > >can be the deterrent.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jabou Joh
> > > > >
> > > > >In a message dated 4/6/04 9:20:02 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > > > >[log in to unmask] writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Brothers and sisters -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The grey on my head is multiplying (no kidding), thanks to the
>daily
> > > > >grind
> > > > > > of life in the US and the struggle we have to wage for Gambia's
> > > > >liberation.
> > > > > > And, thanks also to dialogue that has only helped to fan the
>flames
> > >of
> > > > > > mis-understanding between those of us who are fighting the same
> > >fight.
> > > > >I hate to go
> > > > > > against what my elders say and so I apologize before hand but,
>what
> > > > >pertains
> > > > > > in the Gambia is not a JOLA problem, but Gambia's problem. That
> > >Yaya
> > >is
> > > > >a
> > > > > > tribalist we all agree on. A tribalist for whom and against
>whom,
> > >very
> > > > >hard
> > > > > > for me to say and I will dis-agree with anyone who singles out
> > >anyone
> > > > >tribe.
> > > > > > The Jola's are as much at the receiving end of his tyranny as
> > >everyone
> > > > >else.
> > > > > > Those who've helped prop him up come from every strata of
>Gambian
> > > > >society
> > > > > > and to allow ourselves to miss this point sends shivers up my
>spine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At our last demonstration in New York, when reporter Ebou Waggeh
> > >asked
> > >a
> > > > > > question (I do not recall what it was), this lady pushed forward
>and
> > > > >began to
> > > > > > spew spittle about the Jolas this and the Jolas that. I was
> > >frightened
> > > > >-
> > > > > > frightened because she was speaking from her heart and
>frightened
> > >that
> > > > >she has
> > > > > > allowed herself to be manipulated into segmenting our society by
>the
> > > > >shenanigans
> > > > > > of a loony. If I were to turn around and ask her what any Jola
>has
> > >done
> > > > >to
> > > > > > her or her family before Jammeh or now, she would have pointed
>only
> > >to
> > > > > > Jammeh. My response to that comment, to Waggeh, was this - Yaya
>was
> > > > >born a Jola
> > > > > > and that is as far as he can claim. Those who benefited from
>and
> > > > >supported him
> > > > > > run the tribal gamut.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some of us are lucky and can claim to be a bonafide Wollof,
> > >Mandinka,
> > > > >Jola,
> > > > > > Sarahuleh, Manjaago, or whatever. So what? At the end of the
>day,
> > >what
> > > > >does
> > > > > > that bring you? I will suggest that many Gambians are like me
>who
> > > > >cannot
> > > > > > claim to be a bonafide anytribe even if I grew up speaking only
> > >Wollof.
> > > > >I will
> > > > > > also suggest that it is people in our families and tribes who
>will
> > >put
> > > > >the
> > > > > > screws to you without a second thought and Yaya is no different.
> > >For
> > > > > > political expediency, he uses whatever he can and if tribalism
>is
> > > > >readily available
> > > > > > and he's proved that it can polarize the opposition, why not use
>it.
> > >My
> > > > > > sincerest apologies to all as well as my regards. I now go back
>to
> > >the
> > > > >plantation
> > > > > > grind.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Soffie Ceesay
> > > > > > A Gambian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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