Dear Follows,
I aint no expert in human relations by any stretch of the imagination;
But there is a rule spelt by wise men before us that will not stop
being the Golden Rule of all time.It is as simple as it is effective.
<DO ON TO OTHERS WHAT YOU WILL HAVE THEM DO ON TO YOU>
PEACE OUT
SINCERELY Kalilu Camara
>From: Mambuna Bojang <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Another Ebou Taal's son reacts!
>Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 14:06:41 -0400
>
>Ebrima Ceesay "Manding Mori",
>
>Chill out! You are not at war with anyone, at least not with me. Let me go
>ahead
>and say your de-listing from the L will be a substantial loss, but that
>does not
>mean one should not point out your defects. Again, I reiterate, your fight
>with
>Salieu (if that is what you will call it) should have been "private". All
>of us
>have a past and you shouldn't sound arrogant by threatening to reveal his
>past.
>We are not interested in that.
>
>I will urge you to continue forwarding to us those valuable pieces of info.
>you
>are already forwarding and refrain from sending private and personal stuff.
>Each
>of us is a master in our own domain and there is no need for bragging
>about
>individual accomplishments. You kind of seem to do that a lot whenever
>someone
>disagrees with you.
>
>By the way I can step in your shoes and call you names just like you do,
>but I am
>not going to do that. I believe we can disagree to agree without resorting
>to
>labeling names.
>
>God Speed!
>
>Pa Mambuna,
>Lexington, KY
>
>Ebrima Ceesay wrote:
>
> > Mambuna Bojang:
> >
> > To tell you the truth, I do not give a damn regarding your views about
>me!
> > In fact, I don't care what you think about me! I am now tired of this
> > unending hypocrisy on Gambia-L and, henceforth, I am ready for a
>war/fight.
> > I do not care what other people will think about me! I mean it! And I am
> > even ready to unsubscribe from the L.
> >
> > I am now ready to show any member of Gambia L what my true colours are!
>I am
> > now tired of this diplomacy business. Why is it that some Gambians do
>not
> > want people who are nice/gentle like me? No wonder people like Matarr
>Njie
> > are given the fear and respect they do not even deserve, simply because
>they
> > are rude! What some of you deserve is someone who is direct, abrupt and
> > nasty!
> >
> > Well, from now on, I'll give it as it is! In fact, you are lucky that I
>do
> > not have adequate time right now; otherwise I would have exposed your
> > hypocrisy! Didn't you read what Sal Taal wrote about me, on the L. And
>if
> > yes, don't I also have the right to send my version to the L and copy it
>to
> > Sal?
> >
> > Ebrima Ceesay
> >
> > >From: Mambuna Bojang <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Another Ebou Taal's son reacts!
> > >Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:35:54 -0400
> > >
> > >Mr. Ceesay,
> > >
> > >With all due respect, I don't think you should have sent this "personal
> > >attack"
> > >on the list. Salieu Taal wrote to you in private, and please next time
> > >respond
> > >to private mails privately. If you have a beef with Salieu or vise
>visa,
> > >most of
> > >us are not interested in it. While I do agree with many that you are
>doing
> > >a
> > >great job for disseminating insightful info. to this very list, I think
>you
> > >sometimes take things out of context. Both Fatou and Salieu Taal have
> > >reasons to
> > >attack you about their father - who on this list won't if you were in
>their
> > >shoes? They did it wisely in private and its amazing how you can turn
>that
> > >around and expose their past on the "Bantaba". Its just ridiculous.
> > >
> > >By the way, I don't know any of the Taal family. I am just concern
>about
> > >this
> > >type of unwarranted personal attacks. It happens time and again on this
> > >list,
> > >and we have to be mindful. What goes around comes around.
> > >
> > >God Speed!
> > >
> > >Pa Mambuna
> > >
> > >
> > >Ebrima Ceesay wrote:
> > >
> > > > Salieu Taal:
> > > >
> > > > Before I attempt to shatter your baseless allegations into pieces, I
> > >must
> > > > warn you now, that if this is the kind of shallow analysis, or
>flimsy
> > > > writing you are going to be rendering us, especially with all the
> > > > credentials added to your name, I'll have no choice except to ask
> > >Buckingham
> > > > University to revoke the Law Degree conferred on you forthwith. And
>I
> > >mean
> > > > it!
> > > >
> > > > Believe me, Sal, next time you send me this sort of woolly, quibble
>and
> > > > muddled writing, I'll send a copy of it to Buckingham and ask them
> > >whether
> > > > this is the sort of narrow and smattering analysis/writing they are
> > >teaching
> > > > their students.
> > > >
> > > > I'll make it clear to the Rector at Buckingham University that if
>they
> > >do
> > > > not want their reputation as one of the leading Universities in
>England
> > >to
> > > > be tarnished, then they must ask you, Salieu, to go back to school
>and
> > >do
> > > > some serious reading!!
> > > >
> > > > Honestly, Salieu, being an alumnus of Buck - a very expensive
>private
> > > > University for that matter - but, more significantly, given all the
> > > > credentials/titles ( LLB; MA ) attached to your name, I had expected
>you
> > >to
> > > > come up with something mature, tangible, ungarbled and
>well-thought-out!
> > > >
> > > > But just like your Sister's trash the other day, yours too was
>childish
> > >-
> > > > very immature to say the least - empty and, of course, full of
> > >distortions.
> > > > What a shame! Sal, believe me, with all your bluff, I swear I CAN
>put
> > >you in
> > > > a classroom and teach you - having regard to the trash you just sent
>me.
> > > >
> > > > How can a lawyer, or someone with a Law Degree like you,
>deliberately
> > >tell
> > > > lies or distort the facts? Who told you that I was the one who wrote
>the
> > > > Story about your Dad in the Daily Observer? Even your punk sister,
>Fatou
> > > > Taal, did know that "Alieu Badara Sowe had written the story" in
> > >question,
> > > > except that she, Fatou, had lied that I had asked Alieu Badara Sowe
>to
> > >write
> > > > the story.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, let me now move to the issue. Salieu, among other things,
>you
> > > > wrote..."Ebrima, I am shocked by your unwarranted and
>unsubstantiated
> > >attack
> > > > on my father...You ought not write any story on the basis of hearsay
>or
> > > > undisclosed sources... My father never came to the UK neither was he
> > > > declared Persona Non Grata...Your report was factually unsound and
> > >inspired
> > > > by spite"...
> > > >
> > > > Sal, these cited quotations from your e-mail, are very misleading
>and
> > > > unfounded to say the least - wrongly insinuating that I wrote the
>Daily
> > > > Observer story - and in fact if you do not withdraw them forthwith,
>I'll
> > > > write a pamphlet on your mediocrity and expose to the whole world,
>what
> > >a
> > > > man of straw you are!!!
> > > >
> > > > Let me now put things in perspective for you, in order to set the
>record
> > > > straight, but also to expose you as a buffoon and a crank!
> > > >
> > > > ** The first point to note, Salieu, is that the story on your Dad,
>or in
> > > > question, was written by Alieu Badara Sowe, who is an assistant
>editor
> > >at
> > > > the Observer and it was the very Observer he works for that carried
>the
> > > > article.
> > > >
> > > > ** Question: How did I get into this whole saga?
> > > >
> > > > ** Now, Salieu, read this very carefully: One of my sources in
>Banjul
> > >sent
> > > > me an e-mail, where he had said that his Secretary had phoned his
>mobile
> > > > when he was at a meeting in Yundum, and told him that one of the
> > >newspapers
> > > > had a headline, saying that "Ebou Taal was declared Persona non
>Grata by
> > >the
> > > > UK government."
> > > >
> > > > ** And later on, when my source finally got copies of his
>newspapers, he
> > > > sent me another e-mail - which I forwarded to the L - disclosing,
>first
> > >of
> > > > all, that it was the Observer that reported the Ebou Taal story,
>adding
> > >also
> > > > that according to the article, Ebou Taal apparently travelled to
>London,
> > >but
> > > > was given 48 hours to leave the UK.
> > > >
> > > > ** Subsequently, the Daily Observer realised that the story was
> > >unfounded
> > > > and, as a result, they retracted it with an unreservedly written
>apology
> > >to
> > > > your Dad.
> > > >
> > > > ** And, needles to say, in keeping with the ethics of good
>journalism,
> > > > Tombong Saidy - and later on my very self - forwarded the retraction
>in
> > >the
> > > > Daily Observer, to the L, except that in my own posting to the L, I
>made
> > >a
> > > > comment/observation to the effect, that it was "untrue" for the
> > >Government
> > > > to have said, through the Daily Observer, that your Dad was "never
> > >convicted
> > > > for embezzlement." Because the record shows that your Dad was indeed
> > > > convicted for embezzlement!
> > > >
> > > > So, Sal, where did I go wrong? Or better yet, who told you, or where
>on
> > > > earth did they say that I wrote the article in question? Yes, the
>person
> > >who
> > > > authored the story about your Dad, Alieu Badara Sowe, just like you,
>is
> > > > someone I know very well, but if he had contacted me before hand, he
> > > > wouldn't have written such a wrong and hasty story.
> > > >
> > > > I would have given him all the facts he needed to know regarding the
> > > > decision by Yaya Jammeh to appoint/nominate your Dad as Gambia's
> > > > ambassador-designate to the UK and, more significantly, the
>disapproval
> > >of
> > > > your Dad's nomination by the UK government.
> > > >
> > > > But, the truth of the matter, Salieu, is that I have not been in any
> > >form of
> > > > contact with the Daily Observer since Kenneth Best sold it to Amadou
> > >Samba
> > > > over a year ago. And, in fact, the last time I spoke with Alieu
>Badara
> > >Sowe
> > > > was in the Gambia in 1996!
> > > >
> > > > So, Salieu, where is the evidence that I wrote the article on your
>Dad?
> > > > You've really let me down academically/intellectually! Sincerely
> > >speaking, I
> > > > had thought that you were better than this - on the whole you are
> > >nothing
> > > > but a lightweight, a froth, a pipsqueak!!
> > > >
> > > > And, surprisingly, at your level, you do not even write English
>well,
> > >your
> > > > grammar was disappointing to say the least! Boy, if I was lucky -
>many
> > >years
> > > > ago - to have the African Development Bank pay for my University
> > >Education,
> > > > as they did for you all these years, believe me, I could have been
>one
> > >of
> > > > your lecturers at Buck!
> > > >
> > > > You call me "half-baked." Me! In fact, Susan Rowe on Gambia L, who
> > >trains
> > > > teachers at Reading University, and who also wrote about 5 books,
>had to
> > > > laugh at your claims - the whole of yesterday - that I, Ebrima
>Ceesay,
> > >have
> > > > "half-baked, haphazard and dubious educational background"...
> > > >
> > > > Well, except something is wrong with Susan Rowe (Laugh) but anyway
>it
> > >was
> > > > consoling to hear an independent person, an outsider like Susan
>Rowe,
> > > > acknowledge that my writings, especially my English, are
>"impeccable"
> > >unlike
> > > > yours!
> > > >
> > > > And, by the way, even today your "half-baked" Journalist was invited
>in
> > > > Reading to share his limited knowledge with the students there, but
>he
> > > > couldn't make it!
> > > >
> > > > Well, let some of you continue to call me a "half baked" Journalist.
>The
> > > > Prophet Muhammed (SAW), as we all know, was initially rejected by
>his
> > >own
> > > > people, but, subsequently, he carried the day! My day will come!
> > > >
> > > > Meanwhile, at least, I can find some comfort in the fact that while
> > >Salieu
> > > > Taal is calling me a "half-baked" Journalist, more and more
>outsiders
> > >are
> > > > recognising the potentials in the me and are in fact demanding to
>work
> > >with
> > > > me.
> > > >
> > > > Susan Rowe being the latest person, apart from the late John
>Wiseman, to
> > >ask
> > > > the "half-baked journalist" to co-author two books with her; and,
> > >needless
> > > > to say, that project will soon start.
> > > >
> > > > And again, thanks to Susan Rowe's benevolence, the necessary fund
>will
> > >be
> > > > obtained - through the Joseph Tree Foundation - for me to do my
>Doctoral
> > > > thesis this September! Inshallah!
> > > >
> > > > May be, if I have the title of "Dr" added to my name, then people
>like
> > > > Salieu Taal, who has this mentality that ONLY Ph.D holders are
> > >academically
> > > > good, will soon give me the respect I deserve! (laugh!)
> > > >
> > > > Ebrima Ceesay
> > > > Birmingham, UK
> > > >
> > > > PS: Gambia-L: It always pays to be humble/modest, but when people
>keep
> > > > pushing you against the world, one is obliged to be act immodestly!
> > > >
> > > > Dr Janneh: Thanks for clarification on the Omar Bongo/Jammeh e-mail
>my
> > > > source sent me yesterday!
> > > >
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