OUSMAN,
       I would advice you not to reply to the one who is "OILING" a
PAPERTIGER guillotine! Bad english from yeromama etc in GambiaL IS REAL
FUN!Go ahead DAMPHA INSULT,CARRICATURE,brother your barricades are rusty!
"High school drop outs watch out! your english is not good SO shut up!"
says the one who sees JAMMEH-SUPPORTING SENTENCES IN ANY ARTICLE! I WISH WE
COULD ORGANISE AN EXAMINATION ON THIS FORUM BETWEEN THE  APRC DROP OUTS AND
YOU GENTLEMEN OF GOOD BOOKS!
IS THIS INTERNET OR INTER-PERFECT ENGLISH?

Yeromama pulori galo haawa.









>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
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>Bojang, at last you have the honesty and decency to ‘come out’. You were
>all
>this time a dead AFPRC/APRC supporter and not a ‘fence-sitter’. You just
>did
>NOT have the conviction or the wherewithal to argue the AFPRC/APRC agenda.
>That is your problem. You do NOT know how to deal with decent people and
>justify slaughter of our children, raiding of our government coffers,
>abduction and illegal incarceration of innocent Gambians, the rendering of
>our farmers destitute while Yaya and his pals send their wives to America
>to
>have babies; the list of indefensible positions go on.
>
>When you knew that supporting AFPRC/APRC in this forum meant you being
>ostracized by decent folk, you craftily labeled yourself as a
>‘fence-sitter’. When AFPRC/APRC abduct people like Dumo or slaughter our
>children in broad daylight no one hears strong condemnation from you. When
>the Opposition makes one false move, you are all over them, pretending to
>be
>a concerned Opposition member giving genuine advise. Some of us knew all
>along some of your shenanigans. We know your family involvement with some
>AFPRC/APRC bigwigs. We knew how you were playing both sides. This is
>hypocrisy and NOT ‘fence-sitting’. Have the conviction to defend what you
>believe in. I know I will hear your usual whining about name-calling and
>whatnot. But it will be falling on deaf ears here. Now that you have
>declared your allegiance to a child murderer, you get no mercy from me. It
>is war.
>
>Let us look at your piece of garbage this time. I just hope I understand
>some of your gibberish. You must be quite comfortable with mental midgets
>like Essa Sey (Yero mama, Paul Gomez, Lamin Ceesay, Alieu Keita, an
>ambassador that cannot even communicate in our official language). I feel
>sorry for you guys. Nonentities that think they have to support High School
>drop-outs and thugs in order to feel important. For starters, the Meeting
>on
>August 13, 2001 to form an Opposition Alliance did NOT come empty. That is
>what APRC wants to believe. But that is NOT the ‘realities on the ground’.
>I
>wonder what exchange you have been reading. Did you miss the Press Release
>from the Opposition Alliance? The MAJORITY of the Opposition Parties in the
>country ENDORSED Ousainou Darboe as their presidential candidate for the
>October elections. Is that your idea of an ‘empty’ meeting?  Out of seven
>political parties two did NOT agree with the Alliance. ONLY TWO. Does your
>party have an Alliance? Two parties are out of the Alliance (as we
>speak/write). Seven Parties are opposing your Party (APRC). Whose house is
>empty here? Your Party is the one that is isolated by the rest of the
>country. If I were you, I would be preoccupied about getting support for
>the
>APRC rather than coming here to lie about things you know nothing about.
>
>Who ever said that Lamin Jabang, Landing Jallow Sonko and Jawara wanted to
>join UDP? Are you well? Didn’t you just hear that PPP registered their own
>Party? Why do you think you have to lie to the Gambian people about
>something so blatant? If APRC wants to look backward and make PPP the
>subject of their campaign, that is fine with me. It just shows me and the
>whole country that APRC does NOT have the wherewithal to move the country
>FORWARD. All they can do is lie about Jawara. But lying about Jawara is one
>thing. Lying to the Gambian people that UDP is dominated by PPP is another
>matter entirely. Darboe was NOT part of the Jawara regime. He is our
>presidential candidate and not Jawara. Talk about Jawara all you want. We
>know the Gambians want to hear about Yaya’s current record and the future
>for the country. That is what we are going to focus on in the Opposition.
>You talking about Jawara is just like me talking about all the heinous acts
>of vermin and sadists like your good friend Sana Sabally. The moron
>(Sabally) is a nobody. He is certainly not a campaign issue for us. But
>what
>should we expect from the APRC mental midgets? Of course they do NOT have a
>plan for the future of the country. All they care about is looting our
>government coffers and slaughtering children to stay in power. That’s all.
>So, be my guest and focus on PPP. Just don’t lie about the UDP membership.
>
>If UDP was accused of ‘sleeping with PPP’ because some former PPP
>supporters
>now support UDP, then is APRC also ‘sleeping with PPP’? Whereas Buba Baldeh
>holds a visibly high position in the APRC hierarchy, NO former PPP minister
>holds a prominent position in UDP. Is APRC a PPP front? Your Party has a
>former PPP minister that boasts of being Yaya’s number one praise-singer.
>His newspaper is the APRC mouthpiece. I understand your own family members
>that were once loyal to PPP are now staunch AFPRC/APRC supporters. Is APRC
>‘sleeping with PPP’? APRC is using the same civil servants PPP used if not
>worse. There is no question that the government you support took us
>backward. Our people are poorer than they were seven years ago. Reason?
>APRC
>is made up of the PPP rejects. The good PPP civil servants were dismissed
>and replaced with mediocre talent. To add insult to injury, we have High
>School drop-outs overseeing that talent. Whereas you can only speculate as
>to whether UDP is going to take the country backward, we in the Opposition
>can ALREADY look at the AFPRC/APRC record and see that Yaya’s government
>has
>taken us backwards. No question about that.
>
>You are also lying when you say that PPP and UDP ‘connived’ to nominate
>Darboe. I see Lamin Manneh (unfortunately) bought into your lies and
>thought
>there was some impropriety in Darboe’s nomination. Clearly, you are NOT
>interested in the truth. Or else you would have realized that this Meeting
>was convened by Assan Musa Camara, who does NOT belong to either PPP or
>UDP.
>Before the Meeting ALL the Parties were informed about the Meeting and
>given
>a proposal about the formation of an Alliance. It is any Party’s
>prerogative
>to attend or boycott the Meeting. If a Party decides to attend the Meeting,
>it is that Party’s prerogative to present a presidential candidate and
>lobby
>other Parties to endorse that candidate. There is absolutely nothing wrong
>in UDP delegates asking PPP delegates to endorse the UDP nominee. Some
>military junta woke up one day and decided to impose Yaya on us. Do I hear
>you complaining that that was undemocratic? Give me a break. You won’t even
>understand the meaning of that word if it was translated to you in
>Mandinka.
>Was Yankuba Touray representing the voters of Baddibu when he nominated
>Yaya
>for the APRC top job? You do NOT have a clue how political Parties are run.
>
>When the voting start, you will know whether Jabang, OJ and Sonko can
>represent the PPP voter in Basse. Already former PPP supporters that were
>lured to AFPRC/APRC through intimidation and bribery are returning home to
>the PPP. They are pledging their support to the Alliance. Gambians know
>that
>Yaya stole power and there is no way he can win an election in the country
>without stealing it. I will NOT respond to the statements you made about SM
>Dibba. I will leave that to loyal Dibba supporters like Jassey-Conteh.
>Suffice for me to say that it does NOT look good on Dibba for you to say
>that the man is NOT joining the Alliance because he is NOT happy about PPP
>involvement. I do NOT believe that some Gambians hate Jawara that much to
>unleash a mad man like Yaya who ordered the slaughter of our children. Even
>when Jawara is NOT running, people are obsessing about him. Jawara is NOT
>running. OJ is NOT running. Ousainou Darboe is the presidential candidate.
>To buy APRC propaganda against PPP and deny our people an full Opposition
>Alliance, would be an unforgivable political sin.
>
>I do NOT know what personal experiences you had from the Jawara regime, but
>Gambians know that Yaya’s rule is worse than Jawara’s. Famara Jatta’s
>statistics show that Gambians are poorer under Yaya’s watch. Three
>consecutive years our farmers could NOT sell their nuts at competitive
>rates
>in the country. In seven years Yaya alone has stole from the country more
>than the whole Jawara regime have been accused of (accusations that your
>bogus commissions could NOT prove, if I might add). Add to that the
>slaughter of our children, the illegal abductions and incarcerations, etc.
>Your family might be enjoying because they have some APRC ‘Yai Compins’ in
>their midst. But the overwhelming majority of Gambians know that Yaya is
>the
>Devil incarnate. The moron CANNOT move the country forward. Matter of fact,
>he took us back to days that are even worse than the worst PPP days. Like I
>said earlier, I will NOT dwell on a PPP comparison with the AFPRC/APRC. I
>leave that to mental midgets like you that do NOT have an agenda for the
>future.
>
>The gibberish you wrote about why each Party cannot win the APRC is
>incomprehensible to me. No where did you mention why APRC should win
>because
>they are going to do so and so for the country. UDP and PPP did NOT show
>their ‘true colors’ by forming an Alliance. Where were you all this time
>that Waa Juwara was defending Jawara? The only one showing his true colors
>is you who have finally come out from the closet and unashamedly declare
>yourself a supporter of a low-life child murderer and thief. UDP has always
>been a broad-based Party made up of supporters from both PPP and NCP. No
>one
>was hiding that. It was part of the territory to defend the PPP record in
>cases where AFPRC/APRC want to take credit for things they did NOT deserve.
>Now the Alliance is looking FORWARD. Gambians are sick and tired of this
>Jawara obsession. Gambians want Darboe to do better than both Yaya and
>Jawara. Darboe will do exactly that. When elected, he will show you (mental
>midgets) how to run a country.
>
>Your prediction of a APRC victory will only happen in your dreams. Wake up
>and smell the coffee, boy. Gambians know that Yaya has nothing to offer us
>but misery. But for an AK-47, the vermin will still be a lowly lieutenant
>in
>the army. We know a Dictatorship when we see one. The call to respect the
>results of a fair ballot should be made to your boss, Yaya. They are ones
>that are scared of a fair ballot. They are the ones that attack people when
>they are defeated in elections (Baddibu by-elections, a case in point). So,
>you should ask him to tell his thugs in the July 22 Movement to accept the
>results when his behind is kicked at the ballot box. If you think that the
>Opposition is going to listen to your childish and hypocritical calls and
>allow Yaya to steal the elections, then you must be daydreaming. Enough is
>enough. The vermin CANNOT use the threat of force to steal the elections.
>Gambians are tired of these bandits holding our country hostage. If he
>steals the elections, darn right he will be removed from the State House by
>any means necessary. Like Milesovic and Robert Guie, the vermin is going
>down hard.
>KB
>
>
>>From: Ousman Jallow Bojang <[log in to unmask]>
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>>Subject: PPP/UDP alliance ONLY.
>>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:12:55 EDT
>>
>>Reading all the comments on the List since the announcement of the
>>breaking
>>news of the opposition not able to come together, I can't help it but
>>waking
>>up to the realities on the ground.
>>A lot of exchanges transpired here in favor of a forged opposition
>>alliance
>>for so long now, and here the day comes empty. It is clear that some of us
>>have been sitting on the fence and our reasons were ignored or blasted as
>>lip
>>services. And now the fact that only two of the parties joined the UDP,
>>this
>>is seen as a victory. What is going on in some people's mind is certainly
>>a
>>great naivety. May be in denial too. It is clear that there are so many
>>things that needed to be done to move our country beyond such politics.
>>I cannot imagine having people like Lamin Jabang, Landing Jallow Sonko and
>>Jawara trying to come back by joining a party like the UDP. I fear what
>>the
>>repercussions of such might be. How could the people of Gambia not move
>>forward, but back forty years?
>>I hope the Gambian voters come to realize that we need to move forward and
>>not one step forward and two steps backwards. It is great to have the ban
>>lifted, but certain people like those PPP stalwarts need to be ashamed of
>>themselves trying to come back in the arena. I guess this just proves to
>>all
>>why the UDP was accused of sleeping with the PPP.
>>This is why I am not surprised that the PPP and the UDP connived to
>>nominate
>>Darboe. Where has democracy been? These people who were present at that
>>meeting, were not representing their party grassroots; for they have not
>>met
>>them for almost a decade. Therefore, why could they not have a congress
>>and
>>have the people vote. Oh yes, I can hear some crying that there is no
>>time,
>>but why would a limited time be the excuse for forcing on the opposition
>>members?
>>What qualifies Jabang, OJ, Sonko and all those former members of
>>parliament
>>to represent the PPP voter from Basse? I guess that is democracy.
>>No wonder Sheriff Dibba bowed out. Anyone who knows the formation of the
>>UDP
>>under the PPP umbrella to bring Jawara back will not be able to join the
>>alliance hence his 30+ rule was the worst some of us witnessed. Dibba is
>>not
>>only a very good politician but his seat in parliament is guaranteed. I
>>have
>>no doubt that he has some malaise in him too, and may be will not be the
>>best
>>leader. I am not sure he went into that meeting to join any alliance. I
>>think
>>he did to show face, and he already has his plans laid.
>>The APRC is going to win this presidential elections big. Mr. Dibba is a
>>very
>>good friend of my family, and I have been honored to meet him before, but
>>the
>>NCP is not capable of winning. The Gambian people have been thought by the
>>PPP that it is a Mandingo party. They have a lot of work to do to convince
>>the voters differently.
>>The PDP lead by my own brother-in-law, and formed in my own household
>>cannot
>>even win a single constituency. This party was formed because there was a
>>fall out between the ranks of the NCP, and I still remember their first
>>meetings in Brikama in my own compound. They might end up joining the
>>alliance for they will do anything to show to the people they are alive
>>too.
>>NRP lead by Hamat Bah who I have a lot of respect for after meeting him
>>several times and talking to him is not a presidential winning party
>>either.
>>PDOIS's record speaks for herself. And I guess they know that more than
>>any
>>one might.
>>And the PPP/UDP alliance will even lose more than they gained last
>>elections.
>>They have now shown their true colors to the Gambian voters and probably
>>not
>>the Gambia-L, but they are doomed for failure.
>>I am here by predicting a big win for the APRC and an inauguration for
>>Jammeh
>>as the president. I am making an early call to all Gambians to respect the
>>results of a fair ballot. I hope the nation will be able to go through
>>this
>>despite some calls for people in the streets, to know that we have a lot
>>more
>>at stake than this. Our nation need all her people and who ever the
>>mandate
>>is given to by the Gambian voters need to be respected.
>>Thank God that I never voted or have a voters card. If I were not
>>abstaining
>>this elections, the choice is very clear.
>>
>>Ousman Jallow Bojang.
>>
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