Mbye,
We can simply allow the snake thing pass as a joke. There are many others
like that but they cannot survive critical analysis and comparative study
with other information.
Omar Joof.


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>Subject: Re: Sabiji/Sukuta
>Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 12:24:59 -0700
>
>Oh mabe my big snake move to Latrikunda Ha! ha! please
>please just for the laugh have a nice weekend good
>people
>Mbye
>
>--- omar joof <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Malanding,
> > Lets remember that there are two Sabijees. There is
> > Latrikunda Sabije and
> > Sukuta Sabije. It was the same people that moved
> > from Latrikunda Sabije to
> > Bakoteh and eventually settled at Sukuta Sabije.
> > Omar Joof.
> >
> > >From: Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
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> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Sabiji/Sukuta
> > >Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:33:50 -0400
> > >
> > >Mr. Baldeh, I agree with you that some of the
> > European accounts of
> > >Gambian/african history is full of holes. This is
> > particularly true of
> > >post 1800 writers like Reeve and Archer.
> > Nonetheless I believe it is
> > >possible to seive through all that to get a better
> > understanding of what
> > >really happened.
> > >
> > >From the little I read, many of the writers agreed
> > on a few things;
> > >1. At the time of European arrival  the people
> > along river (primarily
> > >Mandinka and some Wolof) were subjects of  "Boor
> > Meli" or "Batti Mansa"
> > >(somewhere in Mali).
> > >2. The majority of these people (Wolof or Mandinka)
> > were not muslims.
> > >3.  settled among these largely non-muslim nations
> > were muslim
> > >Fulas/arabs who were allowed to co-exist
> > >
> > >Moore 1730 wrote:
> > >"In every Kingdom and Country on each side of the
> > River there are some
> > >People of a tawny Colour, call'd Pholeys, much like
> > the Arabs; which
> > >Language they most of them speak, being to them as
> > Latin in Europe, for
> > >it is taught in Schools, and their law, the
> > Alcoran, is in that
> > >language. They are more generally leaned in the
> > Arabick, than the People
> > >of Europe are in Latin, for they can most of them
> > speak it, tho' they
> > >have a vulgar Tongue besides, call'd Pholey. They
> > live in Hoards or
> > >Clan, build Towns, and are not subject to any Kings
> > of the Country, tho'
> > >they live in their Territories; for if they are
> > ill-treated in one
> > >Nation, they breakup their Towns, and remove to
> > another. They have
> > >Chiefs of their own, who rule with so much
> > Moderation, that every Act of
> > >Government seems rather an Act of the Prople than
> > one Man. This Form of
> > >Government goes on easily, because the people are
> > of good and quiet
> > >Disposition, and so well instructed in what is just
> > and right, that a
> > >Man who does ill, is the Abomination of all, and
> > none will support him
> > >against the Chief.
> > >In these Countries the Natives are not avaricious
> > of Lands; they desire
> > >no more than what they use, and as they do not
> > plough with Horse or
> > >cattle, they use but very little, therefore the
> > Kings are willing to
> > >give the Pholeys leave to cultivate Lands, and live
> > in their Countries.
> > >..."
> > >the grammar is his and the typos are mind.
> > >
> > >Speaks volume of the people, education, land
> > tenure, the process of
> > >islamization and overall governance in 1730 Gambia.
> > >I guess the questions are: when and  how did it all
> > become bloody? Was
> > >it Jihad or resistance to European colonization?
> > Was it the scramble for
> > >Africa? Was the scramble between Europeans powers
> > (Britain and France)
> > >or between religions (islam and Christianity)?
> > >
> > >As for Sabiji/Sukuta - One town, two names, four
> > legends. Another good
> > >reason for history scholars to come to our rescue.
> > Says much about the
> > >history of the Gambia.
> > >
> > >That said, Archer and later on Dr Mahoney
> > mentioned some important
> > >facts and dates that may give clues to the conflict
> > in the area
> > >1. 1816 Banjul aquired as crown colony though a
> > treaty with King of
> > >Kommbo (annual payment $100 Spanish)
> > >2. 1820 Arrival of colonists and missionaries
> > >3.  1830s arrival of cargoes of liberated Africans
> > from Sierra Leone
> > >4. 1840 British Kommbo established to settle some
> > of the liberated
> > >Africans and make room to service Banjul. Yet
> > another treaty between the
> > >King and Britain. Border follows present day KMC.
> > Must have been a
> > >nail-biting moment for the people of Sabiji less 2
> > miles from their new
> > >neighbors. Also it is worth noting that Sabiji was
> > one of a handful
> > >muslim towns in Kommbo at that time.
> > >5. 1852. trouble brewing between Marabouts and the
> > Sonninkees for
> > >sometime in Kommbo surfaced. The govenment stepped
> > in on the side of
> > >King and his people (Soninkees). Sabiji openly
> > defied the King of Kommbo
> > >and prepared for War
> > >6. 1853. British forces detroyed Sabiji and removed
> > stockade. As
> > >punishment, the Alcadie and leading Marabouts taken
> > prisoner. 7. 1853.
> > >Trouble again in Sabiji. Archer wrote "Sabiji was
> > taken at the point of
> > >baynet, the Frech troops assisting those of
> > colony".. with heavy
> > >casuality. It was later  "ascertained that the
> > marabouts of Sabijee was
> > >led my one Omar, a Moor, who had formerly been an
> > officer in the army of
> > >Abdel kader...." ala  Al Qaida in Gambia?
> > >8. 1855. Salum Jartar, King of Kommbo, was shot
> > dead in Busumballa
> > >9. 1894 Brikama, Gunjour, Sukuta and Busumballa,
> > under Fodi Silla's
> > >occupation. Fodi was one of the
> > Jihadists/resistance leaders of his
> > >time  " it was against these towns a special
> > demonstration was was
> > >considered desirable." (Archer).  February that
> > year Bakote was demolished.
> > >
> > >Note the use of Sukuta instead of Sabiji.  It is
> > not clear whether the
> > >town became Sukuta after the 1850s destruction
> > although the name existed
> > >before Bakote's destruction or rebuilding.
> > >
> > >Just one last additionto the already crowded field
> > of theories.
> > >
> > >
> > >Malanding
> > >
> >
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