Omar
Thank you for your respectful mail. You have the right to your views, and I
fully respect it. Sillah Bai has never done anything for me. I was just
confirming Sheikh`s story, because I discussed it with Sillah Bai and his
late brother in the early 90s at our " mousanteh banda ". I fully remember
when he sold his property and was starting the business, but had no
knowledge of how he acquired his property. Maybe some of you had some
knowledge of how he acquired his property, and could shed light on that. I
know what is wrong and what is right! Check into the G-L achieves and see
how many time I have attacked the APRC to address the killings of the
innocent people. So please, let us stop accusing each other and face our BIG
PICTURE in the Gambia.
Uncle Mustapha.
----- Original Message -----
From: "omar joof" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: Sillah Bai Fired
> Uncle Mustapha,
> With due respect indeed, I have no doubt whatsoever that you have every
> right to stand by your words. Even if you were a supporter of the APRC, I
> would not have a quarrel with you over that in itself. Our constitution to
> which we all subscribe and adhere to in principle, envisages a multiparty
> political cultural environment. Oh no! uncle, I am not the one who will
have
> a quarrel with you even if you support the APRC. But as my compatriot and
> kinsman, I will tell you that the APRC is not worthy of providing the
> political leadership of the Gambia because, among other things, it has
> presided over too much shedding of innocent blood and overwhelming socio
> economic dislocation.
> With regard my postings you have responded to, I was merely using the
issue
> of Silla Bai's dismissal to make broader observations on some cultural
> traits which I strongly feel are anti-development. I strongly feel that if
> we are effectively abled to reinforce the good and positive in public life
> and equally punish the bad /evil and corruption, there would not have been
> so much mistrust and seeming jealousies that others have already alluded
to.
> I have consistently argue that I do not hate Yaya and co., they are indeed
> brothers and compatriots.Thus I do not hate them, if anything, I feel
sorry
> for them for doing badly things they should have been doing well. I do not
> concentrate on their persons in my criticisms of them, it is their
policies
> and leadership style that I disagree with, and the thrush of my criticisms
> will be directed at these, untill they changed or are changed.
> Uncle, I do not even want to imply, much more say, that people started
> garnering " ill-gotten gains"during the Jammeh regime.I most respectfully
> urge you to go back to my first response to this topic and read the
> paragraph which has this sentence: Our inability in both the past and
> present to effectively discriminate between the good and evil has cost us
> dearly..... I then went on to indicate that unless we evolve a better
> culture for promoting good and discouraging evil, there can be very little
> hope in our future as a nation.
> finally, I insist that my anti-APRC stance is not personal. Instead it is
> solidly based on principles and issues.
> Omar Joof.
>
> >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Sillah Bai Fired
> >Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 06:11:12 +0200
> >
> >Pateh & Omar,
> >I still standby my words, that I was aware of Sillah Bai selling his
> >propety
> >to start his business in the early 90s, and that he is an outspoken man.
I
> >am not a supporter of the APRC, but nobody will force me to lie against
> >people or personally attack people, without genuine facts. Do you want us
> >to
> >hate our relatives / brothers and sisters because they are working for
the
> >Jammeh regime? Omar, are you serious that people started getting their "
> >ill-gotten gains " during the APRC regime? Pateh, maybe Sillah Bai and
> >Balla
> >Gaye can tell you why they accepted their Ministerial posts from Yaya
> >Jammeh. I, for one, have never taken my share of the cake. Brothers, I
> >understand your positions and anger towards the Jammeh regime, but let us
> >be
> >real and accept other people`s views, when they are saying the truth.
Once
> >again, I am still confirming Sheikh Tejan Nyang`s story about Sillah Bai.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "omar joof" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:54 AM
> >Subject: Re: Sillah Bai Fired
> >
> >
> > > Pateh,
> > > I earnestly agree with you. As the saying goes " in the Gambia even if
> >one
> > > says something in a house without doors and windows, it finds its way
> >out".
> > > Corruption has eaten the fabric of our society so much that people
dont
> > > worry any more about "ill-gotten gains". It is a shame to see some of
us
> > > praising persons who have put their long fingers into public coffers
and
> > > made away with the poor tax payers money.
> > > Once upon a time in the Gambia, some parents would not allow you to
> >marry
> > > their daughter unless they know that you are an employee of certain
> > > departments or parastatals. And it happends that these are the work
> >places
> > > at which employees by virtue of their nature of work, are abled to
> >access
> > > money besides their rightful monthly earnings and allowances. As a
> >nation,
> > > we must build a culture of truthfulness and honesty and at all times
> > > disassociating ourselves from criminal and immoral acts. We must
> >distinquish
> > > between the good and evil so as to reinforce the former and do our
best
> >to
> > > discourage the latter. Our inability in both the past and present to
> > > effectively discriminate between the good and evil has cost us dearly,
> >and
> > > unless we are abled as a nation to make a determined efford against
> > > corruption, our development effords will continue to be undermined ,
> > > notwithstanding which party you have in power. I am at pains to say
> >this,
> > > but I am convinced that this loud, lousy and greedy bunch of
politicians
> >we
> > > have in our country is without doubt a product of our own inability to
> > > promote good and stamp out evil.
> > > Folks, lets be serious, if anyone of us becomes a millionaire over
> >night,
> > > sure we all will know if the person got the money legally or merits
it.
> > > Omar Joof.
> > >
> > > >From: Pateh Sowe <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: Sillah Bai Fired
> > > >Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 04:57:22 -0700
> > > >
> > > >If Sillah Bai was outspoken,honest, better off as some
> > > >people are saying, why should he accept the ministrial
> > > >post.As he definitely knows that Jammeh is corrupt.
> > > >There are some gambians whom jammeh approach for such
> > > >positions and they refuse. Why can Sillah Bai did the
> > > >same. Look Gambia belongs to all of us and we all know
> > > > what is going on.As before there are so many vous in
> > > >the Gambia and normally they meet on fridays,
> > > >saturdays or sundays and the discussion is anybody
> > > >jammeh approach for a postion take it annd get your
> > > >share of the cake before you are fired.We are all our
> > > >aware that Balla Gaye is among the richest Gambian
> > > >civil servants and why did he accept the post? Is the
> > > >same to get his share of the cake.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- Elhajj Mustapha Fye
> > > ><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > Bro Sheikh,
> > > > > You are right! I remember discussing with Sillah Bai
> > > > > and late Alh Abu sallah
> > > > > at our " Mousanteh Banda " at Wellington St. about
> > > > > the sold of his property
> > > > > to start his business in the early 90s. I also agree
> > > > > with you that he is a
> > > > > very outspoken person, who has no fear to say the
> > > > > truth. I am not supporting
> > > > > the APRC, but we should be careful not to personally
> > > > > attack people, without
> > > > > concrete facts. As you know, I was in Dakar with my
> > > > > family for two months,
> > > > > without going to Gambia. Infact I made a big " Samba
> > > > > Soho " with Musa Ngum,
> > > > > Dial Mbaye and Libidorr at the YENGOULENE NIGHT CLUB
> > > > > at Nord Foire. We are
> > > > > editing the video cassette, so that I can put it in
> > > > > the Libidorr Website. I
> > > > > will let you know, when it`s ready.
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings
> > > > > Elhadj Tapha.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Sheikh Tejan" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:28 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Sillah Bai Fired
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ebrima!s source got it all wrong . Sillah Bai
> > > > > acquired all his
> > > > > > properties legally during the old regime. Ebrima
> > > > > himself can confirm
> > > > > > that silleh sold his valuable property to start
> > > > > his business in the
> > > > > > tourist industry first by acquiring a boat call
> > > > > Jatou 1 and Jatou 2 .At
> > > > > > that time only Silleh and Gambia River Company
> > > > > operated by Pater and
> > > > > > Monicka were in this business which was very
> > > > > lucrative. Let me also
> > > > > > confirm that Silleh was very outspoken during his
> > > > > tenure at the National
> > > > > > Investment Board and his voice was had in all the
> > > > > boards that he
> > > > > > represented NIB. He made many enemies because of
> > > > > his anti corruption
> > > > > > campaign and went as far as pointing fingers at
> > > > > those who were corrupt
> > > > > > and no one has ever pointed a finger at him . That
> > > > > shows you the type of
> > > > > > guy he is .As i said earlier ,Ebrima is a good
> > > > > friend of Silleh and can
> > > > > > testify to these facts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chi Jamma ,
> > > > > > Bro Sheikh Tejan
> > > > > > TOMBONG SAIDY wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ebrima Ceessay,You back again with your
> > > > > so-called sources. Your
> > > > > > > source is misleading you again. Lang Tombong is
> > > > > in town and has not
> > > > > > > gone any where. Why would Lang Tombong flee
> > > > > anyway? If Sillah Bai was
> > > > > > > sacked because he bribed Yankuba Touray, why
> > > > > then is Yankuba not
> > > > > > > sacked? Try to verify any information from your
> > > > > so-called sources
> > > > > > > before forwarding it to the L.Your sources are
> > > > > not reliable afterall.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PEACE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tombong
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Ebrima Ceesay
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > > > > list
> > > > > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Sillah Bai Fired
> > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:33:51 +0000
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Readers:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Another e-mail from one of my sources in The
> > > > > Gambia.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Ebrima
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
>_____________________________________________________________________
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>Subject: Re: Sillah Bai Fired
> > > > > > > >>Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:30:47 +0000
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>Coach,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>The reasons for the arrests are, as usual, not
> > > > > clear. However,
> > > > > > > >>according
> > > > > > > >>to .........., whom I spoke with a few minutes
> > > > > ago, they have been
> > > > > > > >>alerted
> > > > > > > >>that they could be next. So far, as far as I
> > > > > am aware, Waa Juwara,
> > > > > > > >>M.C.
> > > > > > > >>and 16 others are thus far under security
> > > > > custody. The wave will
> > > > > > > >>continue
> > > > > > > >>in the next few days.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>I will keep you posted as the story unfolds.
> > > > > The situation is too
> > > > > > > >>volatile
> > > > > > > >>for Lang Conteh who has fled to Dakar on
> > > > > Friday. Lang Lang Tombong
> > > > > > > >>Tamba,
> > > > > > > >>meanwhile, has fled to the US, according to
> > > > > reliable sources.
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