Saul,
I`m not in any way trying to get at you, and I assume you know me better than that, so please bro dont get paranoid. I`ll however still hold my stand as to the fact these sentiments that are being surfaced right now wont get us no where, and I`m sure you`ll agree with me on that. And I dont expect that you`re the type who doesn`t feel good as to who he is or what his origins are, and if you are Saul why are you taking this stance of yours? Personally I dont feel you`re right here, but again this is a matter of opinion.
By the way greetings from Oslo, and good night!
Regards,
Omar.
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Dato: 29. november 1999 21:17
Emne: Reply to Yaya Drammeh on Alpha's Proposals for Gambia-L
>Omar,
>
>I'm not surprised by what you've said, but where is the demagogy here? Who
>doesn't feel good about who or what he is? Where are you picking that up?
>
>Saul.
>
>
>>From: Omar Drammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: SV: Re: Reply to Yaya Drammeh on Alpha's Proposals for
>> Gambia-L
>>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:06:57 +0100
>>
>>G-L community,
>>
>>It would be unfortunate if tribal sentiments should become an issue here.
>>Remember this is time for "self heal and nation". I believe we should just
>>feel good as to who or what we, and put our tribal differences in the
>>closet, and come out to pose a united front in solving our common problems.
>>Let us not degenerate our constructive debates. That would be folly of us.
>>So guys lets get to work and stop this demagoguery.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Omar.
>>
>>
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>>Til: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>>Dato: 29. november 1999 17:10
>>Emne: Re: Reply to Yaya Drammeh on Alpha's Proposals for Gambia-L
>>
>>
>> >Saul,
>> >I mean, why are you taking such a stance. Its unproductive! very
>>backward,
>> >and can even be considered irresponsible! for that matter.
>> >Off course, I did read your piece, and it doesn't sound positive.
>> >
>> >I think you need to use your mind better! No body is going to be out here
>>to
>> >entertain such ideas! Robinson's piece was very educative and smart. A
>> >better Gambia, is the agenda Saul, in case you missed the point!
>> >Do you consider the out come of such ideas as "Tribalism"? what effects
>>do
>> >they have? Why are you puting energy on"Tribal" diversity?
>> >
>> >I have been reading some of your wounderful pieces, and thought you were
>> >more smart than this. Take a little research on that word "Tribe" and see
>>if
>> >it even fit our society! It has more wider meanings and effects than you
>>may
>> >think. We shall not entertain that Saul! be careful! its realy backwarded
>> >and unproductive.
>> >
>> >I think, if you dont have anything to add, or argue constructively,please
>> >give chance to others who can come up better ideas concerning the
>>progress
>> >and prosperity of our people. We are not out here just for a matter of
>> >challeging others.We are here to discuss ideas.Further more I will
>>consider
>> >this a waste of time and energy for you, because the average Gambian is
>>very
>> >well aware of the effects of this so called "tribal" issue." so please
>>"lagg
>> >av nu"
>> >
>> >No hard feelings brother, "tribal" issues doesn't suit us! we are one.
>> >
>> >Yahya
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>> >><[log in to unmask]>
>> >>To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>Subject: Reply to Yaya Drammeh on Alpha's Proposals for Gambia-L
>> >>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:14:31 GMT
>> >>
>> >>Yaya, Yaya, Yaya...
>> >>
>> >>Some things just don't change. Do they? Read my piece and read Alpha's
>> >>again, and ask yourself who the real tribalist is. Like they say around
>> >>here, "the mind is a terrible thing to waste." Use your mind Yaya!
>> >>
>> >>Saul.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>From: yeks drame <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>> >>><[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>>Subject: Re: Reply to Basiru Ndow:Alpha's Proposals for Gambia-L]
>> >>>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 03:42:32 PST
>> >>>
>> >>>What are U up to Saul?
>> >>>I am disapointed with those ideas of "tribal defendance"
>> >>>Alpha's proposals were not "tribal" nor were they so bad as you may
>>have
>> >>>thought.If he sound wrong in his proposals, may be you have a better
>>idea.
>> >>>We will certainly love to hear that one too!
>> >>>
>> >>>Any way, I am certain that Robinson, is a reasonable and responsible
>> >>>person
>> >>>who can clarify his agenda better than I may do.However, we sould not
>>be
>> >>>out
>> >>>here to entertain such backward ideas as "tribalism"
>> >>>Infact I even hate thet word! Am sorry brother but, I thought,we should
>> >>>have
>> >>>by now been thinking far ahead of that. What is "tribalism"?????
>> >>>
>> >>>Yahya
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>From: saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>> >>>><[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>>>Subject: Reply to Basiru Ndow:Alpha's Proposals for Gambia-L]
>> >>>>Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 05:00:13 GMT
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Basiru,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>You need to go back and read my article again. I'm not a fan of
>> >>>>Ousainou's.
>> >>>>However, whether he's another Jawara is beside the point. The gist of
>>my
>> >>>>article is that we should go after individuals who, for one reason or
>> >>>>another are keeping our nation down, not any particular group or
>>tribe.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>If you have evidence that Ousainou was campaigning on tribalism,
>>produce
>> >>>>it,
>> >>>>and I'll be the first to condemn him. Regarding the D30K, I'm not
>> >>>>familiar
>> >>>>with the case. But YOU can use this forum to raise that issue.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Regarding my contention w/ Alpha, if all you have is what you've said
>> >>>>here,
>> >>>>that's very sad. We can do better than taking cheap shots at each
>>other.
>> >>>>If
>> >>>>you want to engage in an intelligent argument by producing evidence to
>> >>>>back
>> >>>>your assertions, I'm game. But if your only mission is to engage in
>> >>>>sleaze,
>> >>>>you'll have to look elsewhere. So Mr. Ndow, you either put up, or just
>> >>>>shut
>> >>>>up! I won't dignify your sleaze.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Saul.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>From: Basiru Ndow <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>>>>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>>>>Subject: [Fwd: Reply to Alpha's Some proposals for Gambia-L]
>> >>>>>Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 19:20:06 -0600
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Saul,
>> >>>>> Your article is absolute nonsense.!!!!!you need to broaden up your
>> >>>>>mind
>> >>>>>and stop
>> >>>>>pretending, whether you like it or not, this is the tactic that
>>Ousainou
>> >>>>>used as a last resort to win the last elections..After all Ousainou
>>is
>> >>>>>just
>> >>>>>a
>> >>>>>REPLICA of the ousted PPP regime, he was recently indicted by the
>> >>>>>commission after collecting D30,969.00 from public coffers to recover
>> >>>>>$74,000. from the defunct NTC, he never did his Job and never return
>> >>>>>our money back....Wow!!!! Is he not going to be another Jawara or
>> >>>>>Jammeh
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Thanxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Basiru Ndow
>> >>>>>
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