Mr Jawo,

When I said communicate interactively I meant two-way communication, Daffeh
doesn't. As I  said earlier: all of Daffeh's pieces encroaches on topics
been discussed here, that's not a problem if he does it
interactively. Unless there is something untoward, I don't see why Daffeh
would be reluctant to send his postings here directly.


Again, I beg the question--how does this amount to ''gagging of free
speech''?

Cheers,
Edi Jah


On 15/03/06, jawo abdoulie <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Mr Jah,
>
> Forwarding articles for instance, which I myself, like many others, have
> done several times on the L, is interactive enough in my view. You will
> surely agree with me that we do not need a hierarchy of interactivity in the
> interaction on the L.
>
> Regards.
>
> Abdoulie Jawo
> UNDP Malawi
>
>
> Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Mr Jawo:
>
> I don't see how asking someone to communicate interactively can curtail
> their freedom of speech. May be you can enlighten me?
>
> Jah
>
>
> On 14/03/06, jawo abdoulie wrote:
> >
> > Ginny,
> >
> > You are totally right. Fundamentally, intolerance is the beginning of
> the
> > shackling of democrarcy and the gagging of free speech. Undoubtledy,
> these
> > are major facets of human liberty and progress that The Gambia is
> yearning
> > for under the current APRC's utter disregard of tolerating divergent,
> and
> > often more mature, views.
> >
> > Unfortunately, throughout history, there seems to have always been the
> > tendency of trying to make free speech free only when it is in line with
> > one's views. However, in this day and age, the best way to combat the
> > distortion of the truth is through more enlightened truth. In short,
> that
> > is, more mature ideas and arguemnets, not condemnation; as condemnation
> is
> > the only ammunition available for those who have run out of ideas, of
> > knowledge of how to handle/address situations, expecially those which
> are
> > seen to be different from what one stands for....
> >
> > Those seeking the Altar of Freedom, must not only contiunue to search
> for
> > freedom, but tolerate it from others as well; as the solution to freedom
> can
> > only be more freedom and nothing else.
> >
> > Ginny, your objectivity is great.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Abdoulie Jawo
> > UNDP Malawi
> >
> > Ginny Quick wrote:
> > Hello, all, while I understand some people's concerns about Saihou
> > Mballow forwarding emails from SS Daffeh, if we start saying who can
> > or can't forward, or what one can or can't post / forward, where does
> > it stop? People forward various things here all the time, from the
> > Foroya to the New Statesman, among other things, and no one in the
> > past has said anything about that. Is the issue that there isn't a
> > means of commenting and giving feedback to the one writing /
> > forwarding the articles, or is it just that people disagree and so
> > they feel the need to say something?
> >
> > If you're going to start banning forwards, you should ban
> > everyone or ban no one. I don't think it's fair to just pick on one
> > person, simply because you disagree with what they are saying.
> >
> > If I read an issue of Forya or the New Statesman and I feel that
> > what they are saying is wrong, or their logic or use of statistics are
> > faulty, do I have a means to comment directly to them and thus give
> > feedback? If I don't, and this is just a mere forward, what is the
> > difference between these forwards and what Saihou is forwarding?
> >
> > I just don't see the "Daffeh" issue is that big of a deal.
> > People forward stuff here all the time, and if I don't like it, most
> > of the itme, I just delete it and move on. And I think the
> > condemnation of Saihou is a bit selective considering that there have
> > been toher forwards that other people have sent in, that don't have a
> > means whereby people can comment directly to the person, or, of
> > course, the person isn't directly subscribed to the Gambia-l.
> >
> > If the only difference between what Saihou is doing and what
> > others have done is that the majority of the list members just don't
> > agree with what he, or the author of the forward, is saying, than what
> > does that say about people's supposed support of free speech and
> > democracy? If one truly believes in free speech and democracy, then
> > one must not try to silence someone that htey don't agree with.
> >
> > Ginny
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/8/06, abdoukarim sanneh wrote:
> > > Mr Momodou.S Sidibeh
> > > Thanks for your response. I think the present global historical
> reality
> > > does not require whether politically you are allied to left or rights.
> > The
> > > British Labour party is a show case example after abolition of clause
> 4.
> > The
> > > second example is the corporate take over of china which is still
> under
> > one
> > > party communist rule. The third example is closer to home Africa
> > National
> > > Congress of South Africa. Within the rank and file of ANC, composed of
> > South
> > > Africa Communist party, advocates of Scientific Socialism, Marxist
> > humanist,
> > > Nationalist, capitalist, etc. What was ANC's pathway to address
> > dehumanise
> > > economic realities of South African masse after liberation from the
> > > aparthied regime? ANC, when into to adopted nothing order than
> > neoliberal
> > > economic policies dictate by the world bank and IMF.
> > > Mr Sidebeh you are wrong to think UDP is right wing political
> > > organisation. Please I refer you to make a research into the party's
> > > manifesto. UDP value nothing order social democracy with emphasis on
> > rule of
> > > law, constitution democracy and social justice. It is basic
> fundamental
> > of
> > > the party in the 1996 and 2001 election.
> > > Mr Sidibeh, just like the Libdem in United Kingdom within their ranks
> > > consist right and left wing politicians but all what the groups share
> in
> > > common is the liberal values. On the question of New Statesman,even
> with
> > the
> > > fact that New paper is seem in many quarter as a left wing press but
> the
> > > evolution in global politics enable the media to change lot of its
> > utopian
> > > views. It is like globalisation and its discontent in many perspective
> > but
> > > that does not mean that dynamic toward globalisation cannot address
> > global
> > > inequality and environmental issues.
> > > Once again have a good working week and I hope the progressive debate
> > from
> > > you end will continue.
> > >
> > > Momodou S Sidibeh wrote:
> > > Brother Abdoukarim Sanneh Balamang!
> > >
> > > I have the feeling you are wooing me into the UDP? That would be an
> > > impossible sell.
> > > I agree with you that for any coalition to remain stable (and infact
> > > democratic) it ought to be led by " ...a leading opposition...", (your
> > > words). But perhaps that is all you and I agree upon?
> > > I must say that I am a little surprised to learn that you are a UDP
> > militant
> > > as you are the most prolific in feeding us a constant diet of leftist
> > > analysis from the New Statesman. So what are you doing there? Can you
> or
> > > your fellow UDPians tell me why you are supporting the UDP? Perhaps
> your
> > > answers may give this debate the radical twist it so greatly needs.
> > >
> > > Good morning,
> > > sidibeh
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "abdoukarim sanneh"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: List Manager(s): SS. Daffeh/Peace Justice
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mr Sidibeh thanks for your suggestion and I hope Mr Daffeh will soon
> > > > subscribe to the debate individually as it will enrich the
> democractic
> > > > debate in the forum. For the interest of the readership I am not
> part
> > of
> > > > NADD because the political party I subscribe to as a member is not
> > part of
> > > > the coalition.We are a masse base political party and are determine
> to
> > > > pursue for the struggle as usual.Any coalition should be lead by a
> > leading
> > > > opposition and that is the stand of UDP Militants.
> > > >
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