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Oko Drammeh <[log in to unmask]>
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Bro
 thank you so much for your endless and undying efforts to bring in the
non-Gambian dimension in the forum. I always enjoy your posting. Good
stuff, Info from All over Africa,much respect.
 Like the elders would say "We are first African before Gambians."
Thanks to the independance and sovereignty recovered by most of the
African people, the struggle for the historical progress of our people
will be subject to the cultural progress and cultural power that they
will exercise effectively and fully in all spheres of their exsistence.
TV programmes will not crack us. Africa is awake and marching forward .
The struggle contuinues !!!
Oko

Brother Oko
uga479 wrote:

>Brother Oko,
>
>Your analysis is very correct - it is not only Gambia!
>
>These people are very good at manipulating our socio-economic situations.
>While these old women sexually manipulate our young boys, they think they
>are smatter, the young boys are not stupid - take it from me. Later on when
>their catch fails, they again make another film to show how poor Africans
>are using them to get permit to say in their country and/or for money!
>
>For those of you who saw this sex slave film - there was something else they
>(may) have wanted to potray - I wonder if Gambia is a moslem country?
>
>The film that went first in STV 2 was more political, and boy!!- I leave it
>to others to say something about it.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Nyar'Onyango
>
>*************
>They over do it and most white women who experienced these episodes are
>not sexy for the fashionable European scene
>They are so low and too happy to go on TV. They set off to Africa to make
>these films and count
>on selling it for sums of money over and over again to TV stations
>
> The destruction of the African civilation is still on going.
>
>
>>Just coming back from the Gambia!!! .
>>Oko Drammeh
>>
>>
>
>******
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Oko Drammeh" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:43 PM
>Subject: Re: More Gambia On Swedish TV - January 14/ Tourism Propaganda.
>
>
>
>
>>I do not see this programme but I have seen many and they all almost
>>look alike with the same fomula and construction.
>>Many Gambians are not involved in the sex tourism. It is still in the
>>hands of thoes who have nothing to lose and not too educated and poverty
>>sicken and uninformed young urban dwellers. The tradition of Gambians is
>>do not follow tubabs. I was raised like this and many Gambians more. I
>>am saying it now that most Gambian passport holders in the tourist
>>industry area are non-Gambian. The sex trade is minor compared to
>>
>>
>Amsterdam
>
>
>> They over do it and most white women who experienced these episodes are
>>not sexy for the fashionable European scene.They are so low and too
>>happy to go on TV. They set off to Africa to make these films and count
>>on selling it for sums of money over and over again to TV stations.
>>
>> The job has been done by the colonialism that white is god. So the less
>>informed Africans still adores Europeans. But most tourists are poor.
>>Most of them are government sponsored tourists like many Dutch
>>tourists.They are entitled to 28 days holiday and a free 800 Euros if
>>you don't have a job. They even could'nt pay for the christmas and new
>>year;s dinner. Yet still they have the most geogous African girls on
>>their arms sometimes two. I am not saying that there is no wild sex
>>hunting in the Gambia but the Gambia is not a sex capital.
>>
>> The tourists industry is luring tourists into these tropics ,especially
>>to new destinations like the Gambia. They used to say the same for
>>Brazil.. They will come with aids and all kinds of medical
>>recommendations and few dollar notes and foreign currencies. They will
>>spend this in a week. This is more that what a Gambian makes a month.
>>But on long term the Gambian is better off,because the have their
>>culture, the sun, the home, the family, The Europeans don't have it like
>>this.
>>
>> The tourist go back to the social service and low income factory in a
>>single house a garden and a car which only you and me in the west know
>>the the poor village girl is hoping for a trip to hell, only hoping that
>>at the end of the world the Europeans will survive it and will help us.
>>
>>There is a lot odf media disadvantages Gambia is facing because of the
>>size of the media community and access to tglobal television network
>>but  we will not fall victim to this tourism PROPAGANDA to attract
>>tourists to the Gambia.
>>
>>The Gambia is still clean of these cheap peti hand camera tv programmes
>>cannot cast a dirty future on our dear nation.
>>Please watch the programme with critical EYES and respond to the network
>>positively so that they will be careful in future.
>>The destruction of the African civilation is still on going.
>>Just coming back from the Gambia!!! .
>>Oko Drammeh
>>
>>
>>Momodou S Sidibeh wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Brothers Kabir, Joe, Tomaa and all,
>>>
>>>First of all there are two films on Gambia to be shown today. One is the
>>>documentary about Gambian television about which Kabir gave an excellent
>>>synopsis. The other one, a much more critical presentation of the
>>>
>>>
>negative
>
>
>>>impact of tourism will be broadcast on TV3 at 22.00 Hrs. labelled
>>>
>>>
>'Sextrade
>
>
>>>or Love in Gambia'.  A european woman interviewed in this documentary
>>>
>>>
>claims
>
>
>>>that " a black man is always the white woman's slave. Any day he no
>>>
>>>
>longer
>
>
>>>proves suitable, he will simply be traded for another one'. You can
>>>
>>>
>pretty
>
>
>>>well guess the general run of such a programme. It's about the views of
>>>white (often British and Swedish) women about their relations with young
>>>Gambian men with whom they often initiate casual sexual relationships - a
>>>
>>>
>la
>
>
>>>Thailand - or sometimes longer serious relations. The films focus and
>>>
>>>
>that
>
>
>>>of the producers potrays Gambia as a haven for sex tourism. They opine
>>>
>>>
>that
>
>
>>>Gambia is perhaps sex paradise for white western women just as Thailand
>>>
>>>
>is
>
>
>>>for white western men.
>>>
>>>http://www.reportage.tv3.se/
>>>
>>>You will have to forgive the rest of us in Sweden for the late info on
>>>
>>>
>this
>
>
>>>last one from our end.
>>>
>>>Every winter or early autumn, our homeland attracts some degree of
>>>
>>>
>reportage
>
>
>>>from the Swedish media as a result of the dawning tourist season. Much of
>>
>>
>it
>
>
>>>is commercially twisted version of travel guides yet often it is good
>>>advertisement for the country. I remember when some six years ago,
>>>Expressen, one of Sweden's largest tabloids, claimed that Gambia is
>>>
>>>
>second
>
>
>>>to only South Africa in maintaining an effective telecommunications
>>>
>>>
>network.
>
>
>>>It is time again for another round on Gambia....
>>>more to follow as commentary later hopefully from others...
>>>
>>>Sidibeh
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Joe Sambou" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:54 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Gambia On Swedish TV - January 14.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Bro Kabir, thanks very much for your translation of the article.  I hope
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>skid to be aired will project the Gambia that Gambians live under and
>>>>
>>>>
>not
>
>
>>>>another propagander for the APRC.  Keep up the good work.
>>>>
>>>>Chi Jaama
>>>>
>>>>Joe Sambou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>Subject: Re: Gambia On Swedish TV - January 14.
>>>>>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:23:25 +0100
>>>>>
>>>>>Brother Joe,
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's a synopsis:
>>>>>
>>>>>Standby at the President's
>>>>>
>>>>>http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=10652&a=157657
>>>>>
>>>>>Gambia TV, GRTS is just a few years old, short on equipment and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>personnel
>
>
>>>>>but manages to air programs on schedule.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bunja Touray, an ambitious news reporter whose assignments consist
>>>>>
>>>>>
>mainly
>
>
>>>>>of
>>>>>covering visits to the State House and other official functions, is
>>>>>assigned
>>>>>one day to cover an opposition campaign tour during the presidential
>>>>>election.
>>>>>
>>>>>Amid high tension, sometimes clashes erupted between the supporters of
>>>>>different candidates as the opposition coalition that had been built
>>>>>
>>>>>
>was
>
>
>>>>>being deemed strong enough to unseat the president, and how suddenly
>>>>>Bunja's
>>>>>journalistic work gathers momentum.
>>>>>
>>>>>* How GRTS came into being through Jammeh's initiative despite protest
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>from
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the IMF and economic advisers from the West.
>>>>>
>>>>>*Quoting Jammeh on reasons for insisting on establishing GRTS: 'One can
>>>>>deny
>>>>>what one hears, but one cannot deny what one sees'. (Makes me wonder!)
>>>>>
>>>>>* He envisioned GRTS to cover his agenda and report on every initiative
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>he
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>took, and at the little station, the journalists are striving under the
>>>>>existing premises.
>>>>>
>>>>>The rest is about the 'bloodless' coup by the former president's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>erstwhile
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>bodyguard who was determined to stamp out corruption and how he was
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>elected
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>president after his interim govt.
>>>>>
>>>>>It ends with the rhetorical question of whether the TV can influence
>>>>>
>>>>>
>the
>
>
>>>>>outcome of a re-election bid under dire economic straits and when
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>progress
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>is lacklustre.
>>>>>
>>>>>(Joe, judging from the above, I don't think the program will pose those
>>>>>critical questions that many concerned Gambians are asking daily,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>though
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>may be jumping the gun here. May be brother Sidibeh can help put his
>>>>>incisive mind behind a short review after the program?)
>>>>>
>>>>>NB!: The female, in the background, Jankeh Phatty, is a news reader at
>>>>>GRTS.
>>>>>The following link gives short biographies of Jankeh, Bunja and of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>course,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>President Yahya A. J. J Jammeh and his 'pet projects':
>>>>>http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=10652&a=157666
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>Kabir.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Joe Sambou" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Kabir, is there an english translation to your forward?  I am
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>interested
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>know the message being porttrayed with that picture of Yaya and a male
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>female in the background.  Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chi Jaama
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Joe Sambou
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Gambia On Swedish TV - January 14.
>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:03:30 +0100
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Sidibeh!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I got some calls from people who'd seen your mail below and wondered
>>>>>>>exactly
>>>>>>>at what time it's due to be aired and whether on STV1 or STV2. I dug
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>up
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>background info and thought to share:
>>>>>>>http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=10652&a=157657
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for the tip!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kabir
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Momodou S Sidibeh" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 9:41 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: Gambia On Swedish TV - January 14.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>G-Lers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Unless Swedish TV drastically alters its programming, it has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>scheduled
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>show a film on Gambia (actually about Gambian Television) by Birgitta
>>>>>>>Svensson on January 14th. It is a really interesting piece with great
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>cuts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>from the 2001 campaign trail. Hear Y.J.J and Yanks bribing Gunjurians
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>if they wish to own the world's biggest cold storage facility they
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>would
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>have to outdo Kartong in voting APRC!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>New Year Greetings from Stockholm,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Momodou S Sidibeh
>>>>>>>
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