GAMBIA-L Archives

The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List

GAMBIA-L@LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG

Options: Use Forum View

Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
baboucarr Sey <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:06:26 -0700
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (229 lines)
The THREE MILLION POPS UP AGAIN NAD AGAIN WHEN WOULD
PAY THE POOR FARMERS THE THREE MILLION YANKE DOLLARS?

Mbye Sey

--- Ebou Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Dr. Jeng,
>
> Perhaps I have to make one qualification to my
> statement about the "Senegalese" since I was
> referring to the ruling elite and definitely not all
> the Senegalese people in general.  I know for a fact
> beyond reasonable doubt that the Senegalese
> government since Abdou Diouf has an agenda to
> destabilize any Gambia government that resists
> kow-towing to callous demands from Dakar.  In the
> beginning Abdou Diouf thought of Yaya as a necessary
> fool that can be manipulated as long as Jawara and
> the PPP are marginalized.  Well Yaya has turned out
> be very a strong, independent leader and the
> Senegalese governments worst nightmare- Good for the
> Gambia, and tough luck for the arrogant French
> sidekicks in Dakar.
> Dr. Jeng I have a strong Senegalese heritage:  a
> matrilineal Wollof/Serrer from St. Louis/Sine; a
> patrilineal Jola heritage from Casamance; and my
> children are also half-Mandinka related to the
> Bojangs of Bakau, the Hydaras of Georgetown and the
> Jammeh's of Nuimi.  Personally I am beyond
> ethnocentrism or parochial nationalism.  I do
> understand your "fear" of my statements, and it is
> reasonable.
> However, I am also terrified when reasonable people
> make social judgments based on some moral
> sentimentality rather than systemic rationality.
> Reality is not optional and what is moral or immoral
> is a gratuitous judgment that is up for grasp in
> political interaction.  In recent human history we
> have learned that Jews were herded into gas
> chambers, entire villages were destroyed rampaging
> gangs in Rwanda, and ethnic cleansing in the
> Balkans...all these happens amongst people who
> claimed to be "one people", "neighbors", "friends".
> In other words the banality of evil is inherently
> pervasive within what you deem as "the two
> culturally and ethnically knit nations."
> Dr.  Jeng we also now know from contemporary
> scientific research in social psychology that
> cruelty and aggression always emerge from nowhere
> when different groups of people compete for scarce
> resources. Consequently, people lose their capacity
> for moral sentiments, and intellectual judgment.
> This is the ultimate reality of human nature (
> hisorical and scientific) upon which I base my
> statements about Senegambian disputes. It shall be a
> fatal mistake if any Gambian leader ignores such
> brutal facts of life and makes some foolish
> political decisions based on kinship or historical
> neighborliness.  The reality of international
> politics dictates that there are no permanent
> friends or enemies of the Gambia but only permanent
> interests.
> Gambian interests are supreme and above any
> brotherly love for the Senegalese.  Peace shall
> prevail if the Gambian government jealously guards
> the sovereignty of that interest by building a
> strong military defense against all enemies both
> foreign and domestic.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ebou Jallow
>
>
>
> "Dr. Alhaji S. Jeng" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Mr. Jallow,
>
> Have you really put much thought into your
> statements "The Senegalese are
> the most dishonest, corrupt, unreliable and
> incompetent human beings I have
> ever met on this planet," and "Jammeh should also
> start reaching out to the
> Casamance resistance movement and arm them to the
> teeth. If the Senegalese
> instigate any instability in Gambia, then the Gambia
> armed forces shall join
> forces with Casamance and liberate Casamance from
> Senegal for good." The
> repercussions of these subversive statements are
> division between the two
> culturally and ethnically knit nations rather than
> unity.
>
> I have been following your postings for some time
> and, frankly I am
> terrified by some of the statements coming from a
> seemingly so intelligent
> person as yourself. I fear your leadership or any
> influence you may have on
> the present leadership. No offence!
>
> Alhaji
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ebou Jallow"
>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: President Wade's speech is a non
> starter
>
>
> > Mr. Jaiteh,
> >
> > A Free-Trade Zone: may be. A joint
> Senegalese-Gambian Transportation
> > Authority is absolutely out of the question. The
> Senegalese are the most
> > dishonest, corrupt, unreliable and incompetent
> human beings I have ever
> > met on this planet. They are simply uncomfortable
> with an independent
> > Gambia that strategically divides their country
> two incompatible halves.
> > The last thing that a Senegalese leader wants to
> see is a strong leader in
> > the mold of Yaya Jammeh who coincidentally happens
> to be Jola.
> > Laye Wade prays for a weak government in the
> Gambia and exploits the
> > Gambian opposition parties and former military
> officers for that end.
> > Jammeh should also start reaching out to the
> Casamance resistance movement
> > and arm them to the teeth. If the Senegalese
> instigate any instability in
> > Gambia, then the Gambia armed forces shall join
> forces with Casamance and
> > liberate Casamance from Senegal for good. The
> Senegalese elite don't give
> > a damn about their own people much the Gambians.
> >
> >
> > Ebou Jallow
> >
> > Malanding Jaiteh wrote:
> > This is from the Daily Observer.
> > I believe President Wade's public comment on this
> very important issue
> > is a very good first start. There is no doubt that
> the two countries
> > must learn to live together.
> >
> > Perhaps he got his ideas of Ferries, Tunnels and
> Bridge all at once from
> > his few days in New York . With combined
> population of Gambia and
> > Senegal less than that of New York Metro, and a
> combined GDP of 20
> > billion US Dollars (5% of NYC GDP) you wonder
> whether going for tunnel,
> > bridge and ferry service is not an over kill. My
> advice is to start
> > negotiations the following modest goals:
> >
> > 1. A joint Senegalese-Gambian Transportation
> Authoriy. This would be
> > responsible for purchase of and managment all
> ferries and (any future)
> > bridges across the two major crossing points
> (Banjul-Barra and Bamba
> > Tenda-Yeli Tenda) and the major trunk roads in
> each country. This
> > Authority must be authonomous. The goal is provide
> service at all people
> > at all times and be accountable to the customers.
> >
> > 2. A Senegambia Free Trade Zone. This means
> unrestricted movement of
> > people, goods and transportation anywhere anytime
> within Senegambia. To
> > prevent it from being another ECOWAS treaty, both
> governments must be
> > required under the treaty to conduct atleast 5
> years of intensive public
> > education campaign of their people on their rights
> of passage and trade
> > across both countries. Also setup joint mechanisms
> for addressing
> > individual claims for any violation of that right.
> eg give the common
> > man to take anyone or institution to court for
> interfering with his
> > right to free movement and trade.
> >
> > Malanding Jaiteh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Yahoo! for Good
> > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina
> relief
=== message truncated ===


 Let modesty be the rule of  observance.



__________________________________
Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005
http://mail.yahoo.com

いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい
To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface
at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html

To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=gambia-l
To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
[log in to unmask]
いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい

ATOM RSS1 RSS2