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Brother Abdoukarim Sanneh,
 
I was going to post these few words of mine this morning but an engagement  
kept me away from my computer until now, and it is interesting that Jasseh  
Conteh seems to have taken some of the words right out of my mouth.
 
I wanted to ask you not to waste your valuable time trying  to appeal to 
those who demonstrate daily their lack of good  judgement.
 
Additionally, my comment is that only the simple minded can believe that  
credibility is measured by such a short yardstick, and that it is only  they who 
mistake a refusal to engage empty chatterboxes with a limited  vocabulary that 
consists largely of profanity and disrespectful language,  supplemented by 
unmistakable dictatorial tendencies as an indication of  said characters having 
prevailed over anyone.
 
I hope that you are having a good weekend over there in the UK.
 
Sister Jabou Joh
 
In a message dated 11/11/2005 7:51:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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Joe and  Jassey Conteh, as long serving subscribe to Gambia discussion to 
group on the  net, I think what matters is to forget abut the past different from 
the story  about our humble sister. I have a lot respect about her, Joe and 
Mr Conteh. We  lived out side in Gambia and calling families and reading about 
news makes us  to determine that Gamboia come first. I am alway determine to 
know that it is  our bit and piece that can lead a way forward that I wanted to 
challenge the  Gambian diaspora in United Kingdom that we have to put our 
house in order  cause 2006 is near. We all near a way forward.please come me 
brothers in Uk  for a way forward and replicate the patriotic efforts our brother 
ub U.SA. I  know we can make a diffrence.
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Joe  Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hmmmmmm! How convenient. Looks  like someone missed the boat all together.
Interestingly, it is because of  your fabrications of the past, the reason
why we have to ask folks to  substantiate their claims against the innocent.
You lied here that I was a  snitch for Yaya and ran for cover when folks ask
you to substantiate it.  Today, whose integrety is in question? Yours
Conteh in case you forget. You  have been proven to be a liar yourself so, I
am not surprised that you will  not be interested to know whether in fact Mr.
Bah is framed because of what  Alieu alleged. Do you think with you feet up
or  what?

Joe


>From: Jassey Conteh
>Reply-To: Jassey  Conteh
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: The  failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:54:00  -0500
>
>Mr. Sanyang:
>
> A code of professional  conduct is indeed a venture for its members
>to consistently apply  principles and standards the profession dictates. Pa
>Nderry M'Bye has a  right to report, but he should do so with ethical
>values. After reading  Mr. M'Bye's recent posting, I became concerned with
>his integrity and  objectivity. Is Mr. M'Bye doing a disservice to his
>profession and the  opposition?
>
> I searched every news outlet in the Gambia to  verify Mr. M'Bye's
>narration. I could not find any source that  collaborated his posting,
>except his own. Mr. M'Bye's narration and  conclusion should be evaluated
>with caution. Was his posting  fabricated? Talk is cheap, but one should
>consistently apply the  principles and standards.
>
> As we move forward for a yahyaless  Gambia, we must be willing to
>disagree with fellow comrades whose  messages might be deterrent to our
>struggle. How could one openly  threatened a dictator who has been known to
>use every effort in  suppressing the opposition? Should we not advocate for
>a free and fair  election thereby reaching the electorate that we
>desperately need? Why  is it that the presidential election is going to be
>held on a different  date? Do you know why? Because Jammeh would use every
>effort with his  thugs to stay in power? Should we reach an agreement with
>the APRC  government on the rule of conduct during the election? Does  the
>opposition have willing and concerned external parties to monitor  the
>elections? I believe we should address these issues before  fabricating
>from afar.
>
> I commend you for your  truthfulness regardless of your  political
>doctirne.
>
>Naphiyo,
>Comrade  Jassey-Conteh
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alieu  Sanyang
>Sent: Nov 11, 2005 1:34 PM
>To:  [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry  and Last card Sey
>
>Joe,
>I am not a spokes person for the  Jammeh government. If you have any
>questions with regards to what they  believe or what I report on the Bah
>case, I guess you are intelligent  enough to know how to fetch for
>information.
>I am not sure if  you are lying or the Jammeh government is lying. All that
>I know is  that my sources are right.
>And again, it is your choice to believe in  what you want to. I look forward
>to the day we as Gambians are not  being blinded like you are to the truth.
>Did anyone prove here that  what Mr. Nderry reported was true? Only
>Abdulkarim Sanneh had some guts  to question him. He never came back on this
>List to even explain. What  did the "good old Joe" say or do about it?
>So big guy, let us all be  honest to ourselves if we have to be able to move
>our nation further.  Let us all have our differences but still be able to
>accept that we  have different ideas and believes withou calling anyone  a
>liar.
>
>Alieu Sanyang.
>
>Joe Sambou  wrote:
>Alu, fair enough, then I will just wait for Yaya's evidence  against NADD,
>like the drawing of General Powel, of the nucs hiddin by  Saddam. Alieu,
>have you read the charges that the government you are  proud of levied
>against Bah? If so, are they lying and your source is  correct? If you
>believe they are off track, then don't you think you  should help them beef
>up those charges to include Last Card and exclude  Bah? Looks like they
>missed Last Card, totally. Hmmmm! Something tells  me that this is a
>phantom from both sides, for if you have this  evidence, you certainly
>cannot
>allow an innocent person get  railroaded, will you?
>
>Chi  Jaama
>
>Joe
>
>
> >From: Alieu  Sanyang
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing  list
> >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
>  >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
> >Date:  Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:32:37 -0800
> >
> >Joe,
> >I am  not writing to show any evidences. I wish you had the integrity  to
>ask
> >the guys who pulled the same stories against the  Jammeh regime.
> >You have the right to believe what you chose to. It  was not written for
>you
> >to judge either. Call it anything  you want to.
> >
> >Alieu Sanyang
> >
>  >Joe Sambou wrote:
> >Alieu, you have also made some serious  allegations against Last Card and
>I
> >am interested in the  substance of your allegations. Yaya said that NADD
> >gave Wade fake  documents, which both you and I know to be a fabrication,
>  >and
> >now you are saying that Last Card sent fake documents to  the Senegalese
> >forging Bah's signature, so which is which? Can you  present the evidence
> >you are refering to, to support you claims? I  don't know your relation
>with
> >Yaya, but you can surely  advise him about the rules of evidence, or is
>this
> >the same  as the Diskette evidence that he waved to Gambians about  "Oil
>and
> >Circumstance"? Your charge against Last Card is  very serious and involves
> >the life of an innocent person, that you  are morally required to show
>your
> >hand. Otherwise, I will  just disregard it as "hear say".
> >
> >Chi Jaama
>  >
> >Joe
> >
> >
> > >From: Alieu  Sanyang
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing  list
> > >
> > >To:  [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: The failure of Pa  Nderry and Last card Sey
> > >Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:22:18  -0800
> > >
> > >The folks like Pa Nderry and Last  Card Sey have seen their plot to
>breed
> > >blood between  The Gambia and Senegal failed. Mr. Nderry, I think you
>  >should
> > >be ashamed of yourself and your family to be  spreading news on this
>List
> > >that is not only  inaccurate, but defamatory. You have been working so
> >hard
>  > >to disseminate news that is not true only to help your asylum  case.
>This
> >is
> > >what I do not understand  about we the Gambians. Anytime we have our
> > >interests to  follow, we will go the extra mile to put our interests
>above
>  > >our national interest.
> > >In your most recent lies, you  said some folks have been arrested. I am
> >one
> > >the  few who rarely calls the Gambia, but to find out that there was no
>  > >truth to what you just reported is very troubling. This speaks  volumes
> > >about who you are and the likes of you we have all  seen here.
> > >
> > >For Last Card Sey, it was  shocking to learn that you are still in
> > >possession of Gambian  government documents that you are selfishly using
> >to
> >  >put a dent on the Gambia-Senegal relation. It was surprising to  learn
> >that
> > >you have sent falsely signed documents  to the Senegalese authorities to
> > >show they were coming from  Gambian authorities. What I do not
>understand
> >as
>  > >a Gambians and an individual, is what is in it for you? In fact, I  got
> >from
> > >reliable sources that the recent Samba  Bah case has to do with what you
> > >false signed as Mr. Bah.  Having Gambian government staples and
> >misrepresent
> >  >them is a crime. I don't know why the Gambian government is  not
>pursuing
> > >that from this end. You have been  successfully using a lot of folks you
> > >come in contact with  for your selfish interests against the Jammeh
> >regime.
> >  >My dear friends, there is nothing wrong with being oppositions,  but
>there
> > >is so much and everything wrong with being  anti-Gambia. Some of us even
> > >with other citizenship  identities residing out side The Gambia do not
>go
> > >this  far to promote our self interests.
> > >I think what this is all  about tells us what kind of people folks like
> >you
> >  >are. I thank God that you are all out of the Gambia and will  not
>succeed
> >in
> > >being part of any  government forever in The Gambia. What you are all
> >doing
>  > >tell us how you will run your families and your country if  opportunity
> >was
> > >given.
> > >What I  will strongly suggest for some of these individuals you all
>  >defamed
> > >and faked their signatures, is to pursue legal  actions against you even
> >in
> > >The Gambia at your  absence. I think if convicted, the government of the
> > >Gambia  and Senegal can certainly succeed in bringing you to face the
>  >music.
> > >I hope we can all live side by side and stop  putting our national
> >interests
> > >behind our  own.
> > >Good luck to you all.
> > >
> >  >Alieu Sanyang.
> > >
> > >
> >  >
> > >
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