Mr Jah,
In short, that is precisely one aspect of the gagging of free speech, concocting seeming rules and regs as to who should send artricles directly or indierectly!!
Mr Jah, if you could understand why nobody should want to condition anybody, in the first place, as to how to send artcles to Gambia_L, you would rightly comprehend what I mean. It is as simple as that and no further construction of an enclave of enlightenment is required.
Actually, I did not initially read those articles on "Selective Forwarding....." until after I read Ginny's contribution, because instead of insisting on the principle of selective forwarding, I apply the principle of selective reading.
Abdoulie Jawo
UNDP Malawi
Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mr Jawo,
When I said communicate interactively I meant two-way communication, Daffeh
doesn't. As I said earlier: all of Daffeh's pieces encroaches on topics
been discussed here, that's not a problem if he does it
interactively. Unless there is something untoward, I don't see why Daffeh
would be reluctant to send his postings here directly.
Again, I beg the question--how does this amount to ''gagging of free
speech''?
Cheers,
Edi Jah
On 15/03/06, jawo abdoulie wrote:
>
> Mr Jah,
>
> Forwarding articles for instance, which I myself, like many others, have
> done several times on the L, is interactive enough in my view. You will
> surely agree with me that we do not need a hierarchy of interactivity in the
> interaction on the L.
>
> Regards.
>
> Abdoulie Jawo
> UNDP Malawi
>
>
> Edi Jah wrote:
> Mr Jawo:
>
> I don't see how asking someone to communicate interactively can curtail
> their freedom of speech. May be you can enlighten me?
>
> Jah
>
>
> On 14/03/06, jawo abdoulie wrote:
> >
> > Ginny,
> >
> > You are totally right. Fundamentally, intolerance is the beginning of
> the
> > shackling of democrarcy and the gagging of free speech. Undoubtledy,
> these
> > are major facets of human liberty and progress that The Gambia is
> yearning
> > for under the current APRC's utter disregard of tolerating divergent,
> and
> > often more mature, views.
> >
> > Unfortunately, throughout history, there seems to have always been the
> > tendency of trying to make free speech free only when it is in line with
> > one's views. However, in this day and age, the best way to combat the
> > distortion of the truth is through more enlightened truth. In short,
> that
> > is, more mature ideas and arguemnets, not condemnation; as condemnation
> is
> > the only ammunition available for those who have run out of ideas, of
> > knowledge of how to handle/address situations, expecially those which
> are
> > seen to be different from what one stands for....
> >
> > Those seeking the Altar of Freedom, must not only contiunue to search
> for
> > freedom, but tolerate it from others as well; as the solution to freedom
> can
> > only be more freedom and nothing else.
> >
> > Ginny, your objectivity is great.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Abdoulie Jawo
> > UNDP Malawi
> >
> > Ginny Quick wrote:
> > Hello, all, while I understand some people's concerns about Saihou
> > Mballow forwarding emails from SS Daffeh, if we start saying who can
> > or can't forward, or what one can or can't post / forward, where does
> > it stop? People forward various things here all the time, from the
> > Foroya to the New Statesman, among other things, and no one in the
> > past has said anything about that. Is the issue that there isn't a
> > means of commenting and giving feedback to the one writing /
> > forwarding the articles, or is it just that people disagree and so
> > they feel the need to say something?
> >
> > If you're going to start banning forwards, you should ban
> > everyone or ban no one. I don't think it's fair to just pick on one
> > person, simply because you disagree with what they are saying.
> >
> > If I read an issue of Forya or the New Statesman and I feel that
> > what they are saying is wrong, or their logic or use of statistics are
> > faulty, do I have a means to comment directly to them and thus give
> > feedback? If I don't, and this is just a mere forward, what is the
> > difference between these forwards and what Saihou is forwarding?
> >
> > I just don't see the "Daffeh" issue is that big of a deal.
> > People forward stuff here all the time, and if I don't like it, most
> > of the itme, I just delete it and move on. And I think the
> > condemnation of Saihou is a bit selective considering that there have
> > been toher forwards that other people have sent in, that don't have a
> > means whereby people can comment directly to the person, or, of
> > course, the person isn't directly subscribed to the Gambia-l.
> >
> > If the only difference between what Saihou is doing and what
> > others have done is that the majority of the list members just don't
> > agree with what he, or the author of the forward, is saying, than what
> > does that say about people's supposed support of free speech and
> > democracy? If one truly believes in free speech and democracy, then
> > one must not try to silence someone that htey don't agree with.
> >
> > Ginny
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/8/06, abdoukarim sanneh wrote:
> > > Mr Momodou.S Sidibeh
> > > Thanks for your response. I think the present global historical
> reality
> > > does not require whether politically you are allied to left or rights.
> > The
> > > British Labour party is a show case example after abolition of clause
> 4.
> > The
> > > second example is the corporate take over of china which is still
> under
> > one
> > > party communist rule. The third example is closer to home Africa
> > National
> > > Congress of South Africa. Within the rank and file of ANC, composed of
> > South
> > > Africa Communist party, advocates of Scientific Socialism, Marxist
> > humanist,
> > > Nationalist, capitalist, etc. What was ANC's pathway to address
> > dehumanise
> > > economic realities of South African masse after liberation from the
> > > aparthied regime? ANC, when into to adopted nothing order than
> > neoliberal
> > > economic policies dictate by the world bank and IMF.
> > > Mr Sidebeh you are wrong to think UDP is right wing political
> > > organisation. Please I refer you to make a research into the party's
> > > manifesto. UDP value nothing order social democracy with emphasis on
> > rule of
> > > law, constitution democracy and social justice. It is basic
> fundamental
> > of
> > > the party in the 1996 and 2001 election.
> > > Mr Sidibeh, just like the Libdem in United Kingdom within their ranks
> > > consist right and left wing politicians but all what the groups share
> in
> > > common is the liberal values. On the question of New Statesman,even
> with
> > the
> > > fact that New paper is seem in many quarter as a left wing press but
> the
> > > evolution in global politics enable the media to change lot of its
> > utopian
> > > views. It is like globalisation and its discontent in many perspective
> > but
> > > that does not mean that dynamic toward globalisation cannot address
> > global
> > > inequality and environmental issues.
> > > Once again have a good working week and I hope the progressive debate
> > from
> > > you end will continue.
> > >
> > > Momodou S Sidibeh wrote:
> > > Brother Abdoukarim Sanneh Balamang!
> > >
> > > I have the feeling you are wooing me into the UDP? That would be an
> > > impossible sell.
> > > I agree with you that for any coalition to remain stable (and infact
> > > democratic) it ought to be led by " ...a leading opposition...", (your
> > > words). But perhaps that is all you and I agree upon?
> > > I must say that I am a little surprised to learn that you are a UDP
> > militant
> > > as you are the most prolific in feeding us a constant diet of leftist
> > > analysis from the New Statesman. So what are you doing there? Can you
> or
> > > your fellow UDPians tell me why you are supporting the UDP? Perhaps
> your
> > > answers may give this debate the radical twist it so greatly needs.
> > >
> > > Good morning,
> > > sidibeh
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "abdoukarim sanneh"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: List Manager(s): SS. Daffeh/Peace Justice
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mr Sidibeh thanks for your suggestion and I hope Mr Daffeh will soon
> > > > subscribe to the debate individually as it will enrich the
> democractic
> > > > debate in the forum. For the interest of the readership I am not
> part
> > of
> > > > NADD because the political party I subscribe to as a member is not
> > part of
> > > > the coalition.We are a masse base political party and are determine
> to
> > > > pursue for the struggle as usual.Any coalition should be lead by a
> > leading
> > > > opposition and that is the stand of UDP Militants.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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