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Brother Makaveli,

On the question of countless and fragmental 'Fonis' on the electoral roll-
This strategy is called 'Gerrymandering'. It's a gambit usually employed by
the ruling party to re-district or delimit electoral districts mostly in
their strong-hold region(s) in such a way that will give them an undue
advantage of the opposition.In addition this will give them more candidates
to field in the house of parliament that qualifies them to hold the majority
ticket.Studies of African politics have revealed that incumbent governments
have manipulated this opportunity to their fullest advantage.It's
unfortunate!I hope this answers your genuine frustration.Peace.

Jobs.


>From: Mr Makaveli <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: THE DAY AFTER
>Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 01:38:15 -0500
>
>Ous Ngum,
>  Brother Joe Sambou is ON POINT! If the 'WHYs' floating in my cranium can
>just settle down and give me room to think, I might come to terms as to why
>Gambians voted for this man. Certainly, the records are there for everyone
>to loook at, right? I mean for those who made it an afford to care. Because
>we didn't just come out of nowhere and start imagining things. I mean these
>atrocities happened for god sake, so the question still remains : why did
>they vote for Jammeh?
>
>If I were to represent the Gambian people in the court of law, I would tell
>the court outright that these people have suffered enough( mentally,
>physically, emotionally and economically)and are therefore UNFIT to vote
>under those horrendous circumstances. No disrespect, but I would have
>plea-bargained for insanity on their behalf. Because look, here is how
>it's laid out : who in their right mind, besides the gullible few, would
>vote for this despotic regime. Though, wonders never ceases in Africa, the
>APRC victory couldn't be any further from the truth that intimidation and
>inducement was what the APRC lackeys betted their lives on when they
>advocated for a free and fair elections,under the guile of chief concocter,
>IEC Chairman Roberts. Can you think of anyone else APRC would have chosen?
>
>Folks, the struggle must continue so let us keep hope alive. We in the
>opposition have strong reasons to believe these APRC lackeys are unfit
>to manage a kiosk let alone govern a nation. That fact and the many crimes
>committed by this present government did little to convince the masses who
>voted for Jammeh, but when one considers the 70 percent illiteracy rate in
>that small country, not to mention the literate few who are illiterates in
>their own rights, nothing could come as a surprise in the present scheme of
>things and ultimately in the final analysis.
>
>For whatever reason(s) best known to those who voted for APRC, I , on the
>other hand find this many people voting for Jammeh unprecedented and
>disconcerting to say the least. I infact referred  it as 'an encounter
>with the unexplained'. Rest assured Jammeh's Marabout gets paid a lot. But
>that's a whole different story, that is if you believe in 'dem thangs'.
>Hell, they said it works in Africa, so who knows..
>
>Recovering,
>Mr makaveli (o-:)
>
>PS: BTW, I never knew we have that many 'Fonis' in the Gambia. Did anyone
>of you noticed that?..Foni East, Foni West, Foni Butergeue, Foni Jammeh,
>Foni,,,,,,,,,Foni everywhere...Geez, damned these crooks!
>
>
>From: Ousainou Ngum <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: THE DAY AFTER
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Date: Oct 23, 2001
>
>
>Dear Brother Joe:
>
>      What else can I say? You have said it all. This is our case, indeed!
>It
>is quite reassuring that people like yourself, Aunty Jabou, Dr Saine and a
>host of other sincere people are keeping their eyes on the price we are
>bound to pay for affording another 5 years of Jammeh.
>
>      I'm still wondering what Gambians were thinking about when they went
>back to the polls to give this dude another shot at the helm. I just can't
>get it! Frankly, the most frightening of all, in my opinion, is the looming
>economic calamity. I hope it doesn't get as spooky as history has proven
>about dependent nations like our small Gambia in such dire circumstances.
>
>       Politically and socially, the status quo is not very promising. I
>hope
>Jammeh sees things this way and realize what lies ahead if his gov't
>doesn't
>change its course. Again, thanks a lot for this brilliant piece. Keep them
>coming.
>
>Ous Ngum
>Columbus, OH
>
>
>On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:55:46  0000, The Gambia and related-issues mailing
>list wrote:
>
> >  Like many in the opposition camp I have been pondering the last couple
>of
> >  days about the outcome of the recent presidential elections and what it
> >  means for the Gambia.  Over the years most members of this list have
>fought
> >  vehemently against the misrule of Yaya and the APRC.  Most of the
> >  allegations we leveled against Yahya are factual and the record is
>there
>for
> >  anyone to see.  Where there extra judiciary and summary assassinations
>and
> >  arrests during his seven year tenure?  Yes indeed!  Did he order the
>mowing
> >  down of the students and Mr. Barrow?  In broad daylight!  Is he looting
>our
> >  treasury (what's left of it)?  You do not have to go far, just back
>track
>to
> >  a day before the 1994 Coup and take a snap shot of his finances and see
>the
> >  kleptocrat he has metamorphosed into.  Has he threatened his fellow
>citizens
> >  with death?  The tapes are available for those interested in verifying
>(on
> >  radio, television, and live and direct).  Have our poor farmers got
>cash
>for
> >  their crops for three years and running?  The papers reported
>extensively
>on
> >  this slow strangulation of the hardest working of our lot.  Has poverty
> >  increased among our lot and is unemployment of our people increasing at
>a
> >  rocket pace?  Just stroll about the streets in the urban centers.  Is
> >  inflation suffocating our hue?  Just look at our Dalasi, as I write,
>its
> >  hovering around D17 to $1 and climbing.  How is our health?  His family
>does
> >  not even trust "his medical system" to cure their headache.  How are we
> >  doing with Tourism?  Well just ask those that rely on tourism the last
>time
> >  they were in business. Is there freedom of the press?  Well, ask the
> >  independent press about the harassment, arson, and thugry that they
> >  underwent with this regime.  This list can stretch the entire length of
>our
> >  river and then some.
> >
> >  In sum, was Yaya’s seven year terror a raw deal for Gambians?
>Absolutely!
> >  How come then, some may ask, did the majority of the very people who
> >  suffered under his wrath vote him in for another five-year term?  That
>is
>a
> >  question that can only be answered by the 52 f the voters that voted
>for
> >  him.  As a citizen who did not cast my vote and a believer of an
> >  individual's unconditional right to suffrage, I would not attempt to
> >  question the sanity of the majority who voted for him, even with their
> >  acknowledgement of the above listed catalogue of criminal activity.
>Doing
> >  so, means going against the very principles that we on the L upheld and
> >  fought for so long.  We cannot on the one hand request for the Gambian
> >  people to be given the right to be heard and when we did not like what
>we
> >  heard, we turn around to question the sanity of their decision.  I
>doubt
>if
> >  any of us in the opposition would have questioned the voters if victory
>were
> >  on our side.  As much as I disagree with the majority decision, I will
>also
> >  not venture to wish them bad luck and lay in wait for that day to tell
>them
> >  “I told you so”.  Doing so would mean that my ego got the best of me
>and
>the
> >  welfare of the nation is secondary to mine.  For now, I'll just nurse
>my
> >  bruises with the hope that "those whose flesh meet the sward know
>firsthand
> >  how sharp and painful the entry – better than the observers, you and
>me".
> >    I hope the majority is right and that this is what they want and is
>best
> >  for the country.
> >
> >  This victory for Yahya did not change the facts mentioned above and as
>long
> >  as those wrongs are not corrected my resolve to follow his every move
>like a
> >  Bloodhound stays the same.  We are in this fight for the long haul.
>Let
>us
> >  not let our emotions get the best of us.  This criminal enterprise can
>only
> >  be brought down by persistence and more persistence.  We should use all
> >  options available to us.  I know there are those among us that, based
>on
>our
> >  past experience with Jammeh, want to reject outright, any “peace
>offerings”
> >  from his end.  Our struggle does not require that we either fight or
> >  negotiate at the table, but not both.  On the contrary, We can both
>fight
> >  and negotiate at the same time.  The South Africans, the Senegalese,
>and
> >  countless other countries did it and others still do.  In the case of
>the
> >  South Africans, they would retaliate for Afrikaner murders of their
> >  colleagues and sit at the table with DeKlerk, the same evening.  If we
> >  believe that our struggle is for Gambians, then we should do everything
>that
> >  would enhance their lives, even negotiating with Jammeh.  Just as we
>fight
> >  with him daily, even when we loose, we should also be ready to
>negotiate
> >  when there is a need/chance for it, even if we failed in the last ten
>tries.
> >    Fighting is an extension of diplomacy and diplomacy is in turn an
> >  extension of fighting.  If we are just in this struggle for individual
> >  pursuits, then we can afford to be one-dimensional.  However, if our
> >  struggle is in the name of the Gambian people, then we cannot afford to
>be
> >  one-dimensional.  For, to do so, means that we are shortchanging the
>very
> >  people whose welfare we sought to enhance.
> >
> >  We in the opposition should revisit “honestly” where we went wrong in
>this
> >  last election and work on rectifying our mistakes and translate it into
> >  victory in the parliamentary elections in February 2002.  The parties
>that
> >  have a working agenda should review their strategy for positive results
>in
> >  February.  We on the outside should engage the opposition parties and
>the
> >  parties cannot ignore or avoid our probing.  We also cannot just
>theorize
> >  and theorize again.  The opposition needs our financial support and I
>do
>not
> >  mean in the last minute, but NOW, if we want to increase our numbers in
> >  parliament.  February is not far, so please let’s make hay while the
>sun
> >  shines.  Folks, our situation requires maturity.  We may have a lot of
> >  choices, but we better choose wisely.
> >
> >  Chi Jaama
> >
> >  Joe Sambou
>
>
>
>
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