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thanks masoud. you just answered my course work for me.hahaha. ''why did britsih bank northern rock went into financial distress?'' many issues but you touched on some important issues. i was using golf to get some valuable comment out of you. i hope cedos say thing on the topic.

Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  Suntou,

I appreciate your caution and I'd like us to think about your notes for a 
moment. Seriously:
FYI - I don't know what the links you shared are, I have not read, or viewed 
them, and I do not need to. I'm not sure how valuable they are to the poor 
homeowners and politicians afterall.

1. I am not rich. If I am, I want you to know my riches are open to you 
without interest. All you have to do is let me know you wish to partake in it and 
how.

2. Who are the poor homeowners in Detroit?
a) They are poor homebuilders who decided to take advantage of loose credit 
terms and government programs to encourage home ownership by minority citizens 
and the other poor who are not homebuilders. The poor home builders decided 
to partner with unscrupulous bankers and politicians to trade in homes, some 
of which do not meet codes and specs but were certified by colluding home 
inspectors in the local building code offices. The bankers and lenders include 
unscrupulous Islamic merchants and investors. All of these types of humans 
present themselves on the golf course as they do at the mosques and churches and 
synagogues to identify similarly-inclined folk. Including the poor who want 
to be rich. For what, I don't know.

b) They are the middlemen/women home investors and real estate agents who 
these bankers, lenders, and politicians use to complete the link between their 
risks and rewards. They are relatives of the poor who will reside in these 
less than adequate homes.

c) They are folk who are sometimes oblivious of the scheme, sometimes 
willing participants in the scheme, and sometimes financially illiterate. Yet other 
times they are greedy lottery players who wish to live beyond their means 
and do not make any efforts to save for their 'dream' homes and do due-diligent 
study on the purchase. They wait for just such government programs because 
the unscrupulous politicians who they voted for and continue to vote for, 
present it as value-returns for their votes. Generally, these poor homeowners 
move from apartments where they can barely pay rent or utilities and have maxed 
out on every credit card they own and or are delinquent on some loans. The 
middlemen massage their credits to make them qualify for the new or refurbished 
homes. They had been convinced that they need a new home instead of send 
their children to school and nurture them in propriety.

Either way you look at it, any of these people can present themselves at a 
golf course to do their own bidding. They can seek out folk just like them and 
organise themselves into an advocacy unit to further their considerations. 
Besides, when these homeowners default on the unconscionable loans drafted by 
the bankers and lenders and purveyed by the middlemen and politicians, they 
are in no worse financial shape than they began with, the homes are foreclosed 
on and more often transferred into another tier of the financial system where 
the auctioneers and their friends on wall street bail the small-time 
lenders and banks out, bundle these defaulted, collateralized loans, and then the 
government liquidates the bad investments with the tax money deposited by the 
poor. So the poor end up with worse credit, loans hanging around their necks 
like neuses, and their children's futures are further mortgaged to pay for 
their idiocies. They continue to vote for the politicians and play the 
lotteries. 

So suntou, a golf course, especially during a tournament or event, is just 
an endroit, a milieu, a place of gathering, much like a church, mosque, or 
synagogue, only larger, to be used by any idiot actor who wishes to play on any 
stage.

A word to the wise:
Do not live to consume. Consume to live.
Dispense your rights and privileges in sobriety and circumspect.
Direct the course and affect of your life. Do not allow other to direct it 
for you.
Waste not want not.

Haruna.


In a message dated 4/12/2008 5:41:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[log in to unmask] writes:

masoud, don't get overboard. What the corporate gangsters just did to 
hundreds of black home owners in the Detroit areas isn't fun at all. the credit 
crunch ,whilst you and the many rick folks are enjoying a bit of fun watching 
golf ,hundreds are painfully thinking of the repossession nightmare. the 
corporate gangsters are heavily involve here. you rich folks need to stop messing 
up the poor with your golf coarse deal making. 

http://www.moneymorning.com/2007/07/30/creditcrunch/

http://www.ethicalcorp.com/content.asp?ContentID=5418

http://www.libdemvoice.org/how-bad-will-the-credit-crunch-get-2389.html

Haruna Darbo wrote:
[you do know that ceo's are mustily gangsters.] Suntou.

I know. They are Risk-Reward gangsters. I am reminded you are an Islamic 
gangster too. All of you must endeavour NOT TO lie, cheat, or steal in your 
gangsterisms.

[They pretend to be honest professionals but in reality they are high class 
criminals.] Suntou.

I couldn't care less if you guys are honest about your gangsterisms. What is 
criminal about Risk-Reward gangsters??? You need to talk to Gandhi. The 
scholarship you're studying under is dividend from such gangsterism.

[why should tiger not let others win and him loose?] Suntou.

And if he 'LETS' others win, others should let him win. Where's the 
encouragement in diligence, hardwork, risk-reward, and earning an honest 
living??????? Where's the fun in sportsmanship?? In this scenario, Suntou 
will never win 
the Masters or the British Open. The same gangsters and high class criminals 
will rotate as winners and get dizzy drunk waving in still air. Ballero!

[massoud,] Suntou.

What?

[i like golf, but there should an element of surprise in it if not ,we the 
poor will never appreciate the rich man's game. simple.] Suntou.

Wait just a minute! Were you not the one purveying loans without 
interest????? Where would your loans come from if you are a poor man? I want 
you to know 
and Bourghibe can back me up on this;

Interest is the time value of money. It does not describe the disposition 
either way of the purveyor of money. Why does Saudi Arabia have money minted 
but 
feigns to deny it has any value. I guess the oil does not have value either. 
But at OPEC, they set the price of oil. Black Gold. Whaddaya think about 
that??? If I were Saudia, I'd pump all that oil to Gambia in interest-free 
barter for groundnuts. Please don't like golf. Leave us alone. Surprise my 
foot. I 
thought your religion abhors innovation???? Go figure. Totally confused.

Masoud Minerals Jammeh Enterprises. A Limited Liability corporation. 
Interest-free fund of funds.

Haruna Darbo wrote: 
Suntou,

I know you thrive on the melodrammatic. We golf fans don't like surprises. 
Other sports maybe. Surprises my foot. If golf had surprises, I would have 
no 
part in it. Pure grit, discipline, hard work, and risk-reward 
considerations. 
Why do you think CEO's like golf?? What is wrong with you Suntou?? Don't 
screw up our game like you guys screwed up Rounders!!!! Go away!!

Haruna.

In a message dated 4/10/2008 7:36:21 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
[log in to unmask] writes:

tiger wining every cup there to be in golf, what is so surprising about it 
masoud? the weather was causing some few problems, i hope tiger looses ,so 
that golf fans can have some thing to be surprised about.

Haruna Darbo wrote: To remind you good people that 
The Masters at Augusta begins today til 
sunday. Tiger tees off around 10:30 AM but ESPN's coverage begins at 4:00 
PM. Its 
ESPN on Thursday and Friday, and CBS on Saturdya and Sunday. Get ready for 
fireworks.

Haruna. If you have any important news about Gambia and or Zimbabwe, please 
don't post it until monday. We will be indisposed for much of the weekend on 
account of the Masters Tournament. Thank you in advance.



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