GAMBIA-L Archives

The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List

GAMBIA-L@LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG

Options: Use Forum View

Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
Kabir Njaay <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:34:12 +0200
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (233 lines)
Mr Sanneh,

Please proof read before you send. I don't have a clue what you are talking
about.

Kabir.


On 9/24/07, ABDOUKARIM SANNEH <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Kabirr,
> Do the policy of land reform help the average man in the street? If they
> take land from the white farms whom do they give it to progressive farm who
> is MDC supporter useless farmer ZANUPF. Focing your utopian Pan African
> liberation on Zimbabwe for me is so outagerous. Why are you not dialecting
> on your backyield.Gambia which you are born is having a similar situation
> like Zimbbwe. It is economic policy is neaoliberal which I hope youdo not
> subscribe to.
>
> Kabir Njaay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Mr Sanneh,
>
> I guess you are free to go and remove Mugabe at your convenience since you
> are so passionate about it!
>
> I don't know where you got your Black against White from but what
> progressive Africans have been saying all along it that the conflict is
> about the Land Reform. It is Britain and Tony Blair and now Gordon Brown
> that made it a Black against White issue when they mobilised their White
> Breathen all over the world to strangulate Zimbabwe.
>
> Kabir.
>
>
> On 9/24/07, ABDOUKARIM SANNEH wrote:
> >
> > Kabir
> > Thanks for the forward. The situation in Zimbabwe is also view by
> > so-called African liberationist as Black against white or western
> > imperlialism. Damn it, I do not subscribe that sensational views any
> more.
> > Mugage should go period and so is Africa do away with all forms of
> > dictatorship. It is a fact that western interest in Zimbabwe is narrow
> their
> > commitment other countries facing a similar problem like Zimbabwe. What
> is
> > that problem corrupt, human rights violation, state criminalisation,
> lack of
> > rule of law and democracy, deapair and hopelessness. The problem in
> Zimbabwe
> > is far from racism. With human suffering in the name of liberation in
> that
> > country is the classical case of intellectual dishonest one cannot
> imagine.
> >
> > Kabir Njaay wrote:
> > Zimbabwe: Outrage Intensifies Over Brown's Threat
> >
> > Posted: Saturday, September 22, 2007
> >
> > By Bulawayo Bureau
> >
> > September 22, 2007
> >
> > The Herald
> >
> > 'Arm-twisting not way to solve Zim's challenges' CONDEMNATION of British
> > Prime Minister Gordon Brown over his threat to boycott the Euro-Africa
> > Summit if President Mugabe attends intensified yesterday.
> >
> > Amid growing international consensus that the conference must go ahead
> > even without Britain, the Pan-African Parliament said Mr Brown should
> desist
> > from behaving like an overlord.
> >
> > In remarks that received worldwide coverage yesterday, Dr Gertrude
> > Mongella, the Tanzanian president of the Pan-African Parliament, said
> > "arm-twisting" was not the way to solve Zimbabwe's challenges.
> >
> > Her comments reflect the determination of the African Union to go ahead
> as
> > planned and invite President Mugabe to the Euro-Africa summit in Lisbon,
> > Portugal, in December.
> >
> > Dr Mongella, attending a conference with Socialist Members of the
> European
> > Parliament in Brussels, has made it clear that African solidarity might
> > undermine Mr Brown's "him-or-me" challenge to the summit.
> >
> > "We do know there are some problems (in Zimbabwe), but if somebody wants
> > to arm-twist Zimbabwe, that's not the best way to solve the problems,"
> she
> > said.
> >
> > "I think this is again another way of manipulating Africa. Zimbabwe is a
> > nation which got independence. I think in the developed countries there
> are
> > so many countries doing things which not all of us subscribe to - we
> have
> > seen the Iraq war, not everyone accepts what is being done in Iraq."
> >
> > Dr Mongella urged all African and European leaders to go to the summit -
> > including Mr Brown - to join the talks to "meet, develop a very
> committed
> > dialogue to solve problems, rather than threatening each other by going
> or
> > not going".
> >
> > She said dialogue must be pursued to resolve any disputes.
> >
> > "I think if we want to move in the right direction, with the African way
> > of doing things, you discuss things under a tree till you agree. So if
> > somebody does not come under a tree to discuss, that is not the African
> way
> > of doing things."
> >
> > Mr Brown was also condemned by Zimbabwe's Ambassador to the United
> > Nations, Mr Boniface Chidyausiku, who said the prime minister had no
> right
> > to dictate who should be at the summit or not.
> >
> > Mr Chidyausiku said President Mugabe had a sovereign right, like all
> other
> > African heads of state, to attend the Lisbon summit, adding that bigger
> > issues affecting Africa should be prioritised.
> >
> > Mr Chidyausiku's remarks follow almost similar sentiments by Portuguese
> EU
> > legislator Mr Paolo Casaca and the Southern African Development
> Community
> > chairman, President Levy Mwanawasa of Zambia, on Thursday.
> >
> > President Mwanawasa even countered Mr Brown with his own threat, saying
> if
> > President Mugabe is barred from attending the summit, Zambia and
> probably
> > other African leaders would not go to Lisbon.
> >
> > Mr Louis Michel, the EU Commissioner for Aid and Development, signalled
> Mr
> > Brown's growing isolation, saying that one person cannot scuttle a key
> > summit between two continents.
> >
> > "We think that a single individual case cannot take as hostage the
> > relations between two continents," said Mr Michel.
> >
> > He added that the European Commission would want the summit to go ahead
> > regardless of Mr Brown's threat.
> >
> > Writing in a British newspaper, The Independent, on Thursday, Mr Brown
> > provoked sharp international criticism when he said he would boycott the
> > Portugal summit - the first since 2000 - if President Mugabe attends.
> >
> > Mr Brown, like his predecessor Mr Tony Blair, claimed that the
> Government
> > had presided over the prevailing economic challenges, ignoring the
> impact of
> > illegal EU and American sanctions.
> >
> > He said the EU's five-year visa ban on President Mugabe must be enforced
> > to ensure that he does not travel to Portugal.
> >
> > But Mr Michel said the ban does not apply to international meetings.
> >
> > "I expect it is possible to have a compromise, but if there is no
> > compromise, what can you do? The only option I cannot accept is
> suppressing
> > the summit," he said.
> >
> > Mr Brown, who assumed office in June, is said to base his foreign policy
> > on a series of anti-Zimbabwe reports aired by several British media
> outlets,
> > including the BBC and ITV News
> >
> > いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい
> > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the
> Gambia-L
> > Web interface
> > at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
> >
> > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to:
> > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
> > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
> > [log in to unmask]
> > いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい
> >
> >
> > いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい
> > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the
> Gambia-L
> > Web interface
> > at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
> >
> > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to:
> > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
> > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
> > [log in to unmask]
> > いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい
> >
>
> いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい
> To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L
> Web interface
> at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
>
> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to:
> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
> To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
> [log in to unmask]
> いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい
>
>
> いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい
> To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L
> Web interface
> at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html
>
> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to:
> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
> To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
> [log in to unmask]
> いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい
>

いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい
To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface
at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html

To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l
To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:
[log in to unmask]
いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい

ATOM RSS1 RSS2