samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Edie,

Why are you interested in seeing Jammeh off when all you need is people like
Marfy and Dr Janneh to change things better for our nation.If the problem

I HONESTLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE ABOVE, CAN YOU PLEASE REFURBISH ME OR MAKE IT CLEAR FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND MAYBE I AM STUPID OR MY IQ ARE NOT WORKING PROPERLY.


HOWEVER, BRO, WHY SHOULD WE ASKED JAMMEH THAT QUESTION WHILE THESE TWO PEOPLE ARE ALREADY THERE? "IF THAT IS WHAT YOU MEAN" THEN AGAIN TALKING OF POLICY, THEY ARE NOT PERMANANT AT-ALL BECAUSE IT IS PEOPLE WHO PLACE THEM AND CAN AS WELL CHANGE THEM. THE MORE THERE COMES INTELLECTUAL THE IT WILL HAVE EFFECT ON THE POLICIES THAT ARE NOT IN THE INTEREST OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

YOU ARE LIVING IN NORWAY AND THERE ARE POLICIES THAT ARE NOT CORRECT BUT YET THEY ARE IMPOSED UPON AND THOSE POLICIES BECAME A LITTLE BY LITTLE EASED BECAUSE OF THE INVOLVEMENT OF INTELLEGENCY ON RESPECT TO HUMAN LIFE. THOSE POLICIES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, HOW CAN WE GET RID OF THEM? DON'T TELL ME IF WE GET RID OF YAHYA BECAUSE SOME OF THE POLICIES WHERE THERE SINCE THE TIME OF JAWARA AND EVEN JAWARA CAME AND MET SOME OF THE POLICIES AND RETAINED THEM RIGHT OR WRONG?

IF WE DEBATE TO AN EXTEND, I BELIEVE WE WILL COME TO OUR UNDERSTANDING ON THE ISSUE. I HAVE THE RIGHT ON PRAISING ANYONE I THINK DID GOOD SUCH AS MAFY AND JANNEH AND THAT DOES NOT MEAN I WANT THEM TO BE PRESIDENT OR DO I MENTION THAT IN THE PREVIOUS MAIL? OR MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO BACK AND READ IT AGAIN. THERE INVOLVEMENT I AM TALKING ABOUT IS A GREAT THING FOR THE COUNTRY AND I AM RIGHT IN EITHER WAY YOU MIGHT THINK. WHO WILL BE THE LOOSERS IF EVERYONE CHOSES TO STAY AND WATCH THE COUNTRY SINKING? BRO LET US CALL A SPADE A SPADE. HAVE A GOOD DAY

EDI

of our nation is not the policy of the ruling party but the people serving
in government why cant we just ask Jammeh to give the Dr Jannehs.the Marfys
to rule our nation.After deliberating so much on what democracy is,you are
not able to understand that it is not what Dr Janneh or Marfy have in their
heads ,but the policies they are going to put into action.This is what we
are against and not the opportunistic behavior of individuals.
For Freedom
Saiks


>From: Edie Sidibeh
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Amadou Scattred Janneh - From An Expert On Jammeh To A
> Sycophant of Jammeh
>Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:38:30 +0100
>
>To my surprise, in the recent weeks, people were acting like small children
>who are innocent of what there tomorrow will be or are not yet aware of
>themselves and there potentials in a society. I think people are just
>talking of democracy but do not realised what it takes to be democratic.
>Moreover, people love to criticize other but hate to be criticized or to be
>ruled against in an open discussion like Gambia l where everyone ought to
>have the right to disagree or agree without biasness. How can we give good
>advice in governance to others if we think we are perfect, then at the end
>of the day proving to the same people our imperfect attitudes. We should
>look in the mirror sometimes to rediscover ourselves and our motive toward
>achieving our goals.
>
>
>
>What exactly is democracy? We should not identify democracy with majority
>rule. Democracy has complex demands, which certainly include voting and
>respect for election results, then again, it also requires the protection
>of liberties and freedoms, respect for legal entitlements, and the
>guaranteeing of free discussion and uncensored distribution of news and
>fair comment. Even elections can be deeply defective if they occur without
>the different sides getting an adequate opportunity to present their
>respective cases, or without the electorate enjoying the freedom to obtain
>news and to consider the views of the competing protagonists. Democracy is
>a demanding system, and not just a mechanical condition taken in isolation.
>
>Viewed in this light, the merits of democracy and its claim as a universal
>value can be related to certain distinct virtues that go with its practice.
>Indeed, we can distinguish three different ways in which democracy enriches
>the lives of the citizens. First, political freedom is a part of human
>freedom in general, and exercising civil and political rights is a crucial
>part of good lives of individuals as social beings. Political and social
>participation has high value for human life and well-being. To be prevented
>from participation in the political life of the community is a major
>deprivation like it is in this forum whereby people are always jumping into
>conclusion and accusing each other being an informer, insulting or arguing
>senselessly.
>
>
>
>Secondly, In disputing the claim that democracy is in tension with economic
>development, democracy has an important instrumental value in enhancing the
>hearing that people get in expressing and supporting their claims to
>political attention including claims of economic needs. The practice of
>democracy gives citizens or organisation an opportunity to learn from one
>another, and helps society to form its values and priorities. Even the idea
>of "needs," including the understanding of "economic needs," requires
>public discussion and exchange of information, views, and analyses. In this
>sense, democracy has constructive importance, in addition to its value for
>the lives of the citizens and its instrumental importance in political
>decisions. The claims of democracy as a universal value have to take note
>of this diversity of considerations.
>
>
>
>The concept and even understanding of what are to count as "needs,"
>including "economic needs," may itself require the exercise of political
>and civil rights correctly. A proper understanding of what economic needs
>are, their content, and their force may require discussion and exchange.
>Political and civil rights, especially those related to the guaranteeing of
>open discussion, debate, criticism, and etc, are central to the process of
>generating informed and considered choices.
>
>
>
>These processes are crucial to the formation of values and priorities, and
>we cannot, in general, take preferences as given independently of public
>discussion, that is, irrespective of whether open interchange and debate
>are permitted or not. In this context above, neither the government nor the
>people against them in this forum, are democratic because the actions
>cannot be differentiated. Jammeh hate to be criticized, there are lot in
>this forum, who hate to be criticized, Jammeh is not diplomatic, there are
>many more in this forum in Jammeh’s shoe, Jammeh is talking about democracy
>but don’t act democratic, again you will see many outspoken individual like
>that here.
>
>
>
>What we need here is how and what do to achieve viable tool towards better
>Gambia for the future generation. I am saying or asking how to take Jammeh
>out of power because we cannot do that while sitting in the Diaspora, what
>I am saying or pointing out here is the fact that the betterment of
>tomorrow should be planned from today but instead, we are getting to the
>throat of each other and obsessing ourselves. Which government will take us
>seriously? If however, people only notice what they are doing to their
>struggling, you will seriously change your strategies. This is just a
>victory to Jammeh and the government seeing people who said they are
>informing the outside world on the bad governance, fighting each other day
>in day out. If you are talking about branding, you have to be branded first
>or be motivated in branding concepts .
>
>
>
>However, I respect anyone who will take the risk to help the government in
>the time of crises for the betterment of the nation such as Dr Janneh and
>Maffy Jarju. I will never call them opportunist but true lover of their
>country and the people who are suffering as the result of mismanagement and
>corruption of the caretakers. Moreover Janneh do not owe anyone an
>explaining about Jammeh’s mansion or the death of the school children etc.
>I am sure, If Jammeh asked some of the speakers here to come home for an
>appointment, they will not hesitate because success is what everyone is
>aiming at, it is simply human nature,. then again, we hate to see the
>success of the other is also human nature.However, the people who were
>critical to the government should be put into a test as it is with Dr
>Janneh. Have a good day,
>
>Edi
>
>
>
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