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Subject: Re: New Light Shed /Sidibeh
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Valid and powerful arguments from Sister Jabou. We should be weary of the
devils in disguised. Gambia's bigger problem today is Yahya Jammeh and we
should not lost track of this fact. We are bound to agree and disagree on
issues-but that should not divide us in our quest  to effect democrat
change in The Gambia. Pointing accusing fingers against one another will
not move us anywhere, but to give room to the dictatorship to further
misrule our dear ccountry. Our watch word for now should be how to salvge
The Gambia  from Yahya's black mailing tactics and not otherwise. I must
add that it is healthy we agree and disagree on issues. It gives
credibility to our struggle.  Just a thought..................

>
> Brother Modou Sidibeh,
>
> I think I have become paranoid after watching too many an exchange between
> differing viewpoints that could have given birth to even better ideas if
only
> they did not deteriorate into personal attacks and accusations of personal
> attacks die.Not a good thing at all.
>
> I agree that this has become a rather precarious situation but the tragedy
> is that Jammeh will use it to his advantage and as a result,  make an
even worse spectacle of himself before the World even if these documents
 are forgeries. Even in the face of something like this, would any  sane
leader who respects
> the rule of law not have embarked upon a  thorough investigation of this
allegation before acting rather than swiftly  arresting and
incarcerating these
> people complete with the usual  trademark violations of constitutional
rights
> under detention etc?
>
> Jammeh would have found other means of making good on his threats
against these men. He made the promise himself for all Gambians to hear
and record. He
> stood before Gambians and dared to say that some people will not witness
the
> 2006 elections.
>
> On the other hand, Senegal I am sure also sees this regime as one that
has had designs to destabilize their own country for years by aiding and
abetting
> an  effort that if successful, would not only separate Casamance from
Senegal,
> but  which would result in the loss to Senegal of a very vital part of
their
> country.  Jammeh has been putting up some of the Casamance rebel leadership
> right there in Banjul for years now with rumours of supplying them with
arms.
> If Senegal's intention was deliberate with intent to cause chaos, the
Jammeh
> regime opened up the door of that possibility by their past actions. If you
> live by the sword...........but then it is always the people who suffer
isn't
> it?
>
> Somehow though, our having come to this in our relationship with Senegal is
> amazing, and a tragedy of the worse kind that is a direct result of the
APRC
> misrule and quest for more and more power. Idiots playing dangerous
games to
> feed their small egos. With these two countries, we are  talking about
people
> who share a deep ancestral bond  and how many families  in Gambia have a
good
> portion of the same family in the other country and vice  versa? This is
a foreign nation and yet, they are not foreigners.
> Accusations and counter accusations that may lead to more friction and even
> conflict as you pointed out would be a foolish venture on our part for many
> reasons too numerous to list but which I am sure all of us can name.
Yaya Jammeh and his band of rogues are grasping at  straws and any
situation
> will do.  Let the APRC  regime tell the people how this government's
stationery was used  to send forged documents but I am afraid such an
investigation if
> it were  purported to be underway would end up like all the other ones that
> have  become perpetual investigations so they will not catch themselves.
Jabou Joh
>
>  In a message dated 11/28/2005 1:19:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Sister  Jabou,
>
> I agree that Yahya should be our focus now and all the time he  remains
seated on that sweet presidentail chair. Yet Ebrima Ceesay's third
posting
> highlights yet again the probability that he has become a pawn in Abdoulie
> Wadd's geopolitical chess game.  A former Cassamance rebel  secretly
records
> Jammeh's anti-Wadd eruptrions, submits the tapes to the  Senegalese and
eventually the said tape is rerun for Jammeh to expose to  him that his
public embrace of Wadd as brother and friend is nothing more  than
fraudulent
> doublespeak.
>
> At that point Jammeh was in the  diplomatic grip of the Senegalese.
Question
> is how high he would jump if  they ask him to leap. Of course, the mansa of
> Kanilai brought it all onto  himself. But our problem is that this mansa is
> also the President of the  Gambia.
> Yes, he would have picked at any straw to tuck NADD leaders away,  being
the
> Dr.Yaahakat Komganarr he is (if Baaba Galleh Jallow would allow  me).
But should the Senegalese provide him the matchstick by which to set
alight our
> nation? The harrowing nightmares of all democratic-minded  Gambians, and
the
> untold agonies of the families of the incacerated  leaders, and the
subsequential possibilities of violent confrontation seem  all to have
been
> put in motion by a forged document that the Senegalese in  pursuit of
realpolitik allowed President Jammeh to smell.
>
> It just  seems to me that even in our quest to sweep away our national APRC
> rot, a  line must be drawn between what is acceptable action instigated by
>  a
> foreign power, and what is not.
>
> That I might take your response as  a personal attack Sister Jabou? I am
thanking the stars for my good  fortune. Just as you spelled it out to
Ebrima, I am only too glad to have  been able to draw you into the mud
once
> more. Your contributions are needed  on this list much more so than ever
before. I shall gladly welcome more  "personal attacks" of that nature.
>
> Cheers,
> Sidibeh
>
> .
> -----  Original Message -----
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> Subject: Re: New Light Shed on Halifa, OJ and Hamat Bah's  Arrest
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