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Cornelius Edward Hamelberg <[log in to unmask]>
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The links don’t add much.

”JUSTICE for the victims of imperialist plunder and pillage that is for a large part
responsible for the condition that the long suffering people of Africa find
ourselves.”

and, the Lancaster House overseas promise of compensation for White Farmers in Zimbabwe never happened. Is South Africa going to peacefully buy out the willing and the unwilling landowners in Zimbabwe and ensure a peaceful transfer? Will failure to do so ruin the economy in the long and short run? 

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=the+Lancaster+House++promise+of+compensation+for+White+Farmers+in+Zimbabwe+&btnG


Black is black and black is back deep down in Orange Free State where no-compromise Blanche used to charge around on his white horse within his jurisdiction but only grumbles about the blacks (as always) and coloureds, now-a-days. He has deep sympathy for Ian smith.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001954604_safrica12.html


http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Ian+Smith+%26+Rhodesia&meta=


http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Ian+Smith+%26+Zimbabwe&meta=


Yes,” Africans should keep their eyes on the ball and not
be hoodwinked by the avalanche of propaganda and lies”, yes Kabir, you enquired,

” And who talked about Mugabe being an angel?”

http://www.thezimbabwean.co.uk/viewinfo.cfm?menu&siteid=1&linkcategoryid=21&linkid=26&id=16



> 
> From: Kabir <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2007/03/31 lö AM 03:33:20 CEST
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Ämne: Re: Zimbabwe
> 
> Malinding Jaiteh,
> You never cease to amaze me!  How dare you blatently disregard the facts in
> this matter and try to spin it? Whoever talked about getting even with
> Europe? Have you ever heard of the term justice?
> Well that is what people who have a sense of the term are talking about, not
> getting even but getting JUSTICE. Get that in your head, JUSTICE for the
> victims of imperialist plunder and pillage that is for a large part
> responsible for the condition that the long suffering people of Africa find
> ourselves. But for you maybe our condition is just the natural order of
> thing?
> And who talked about Mugabe being an angel? For once, there is an
> African leader who stands up to your idols, calls them by their proper names
> and does not suck up to them. Zimbabwe is a sovereign country and their
> independence was hard won, in the battlefield, not granted on a sliver
> platter and those progressive sons of Africa are going to continue to fight
> to defend their right to self determination. Monkey is not going to continue
> to work so baboon can eat!
> Just as Mugabe told your Angels, if that is how you view the West, they can
> go hang because Mugabe was elected by the people of Zimbabwe and it is not
> the the place of Downing Street, the White House or Bush House to institute
> regime change in Zimbabwe.
> Putting Zimbabwe aside, I'm not surprised either that you are always unable
> to separate the chaff from the grains, it is eveident from much of what you
> post here.
> For example, when people spent much of their valuable time here collecting
> and compiling traditional Gambian names which I saved and took care of for
> two years, you took that collection and corrupted it, adding all types of
> foreign names and when it was pointed out to you that the mission was to
> complile a list of traditional Gambian names - true to you reactionary
> nature you tried to justify that with Ali Masrui having said something about
> our tripple heritage. I was in no doubt that whatever he may have said, you
> quoted out of context making Mary and John traditional Gambian names.
> Sometimes I wonder why some of uswent to school in the first place, geez!
> Kabir.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/30/07, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Njaajan,
> > I  think it will be tragic if we see the Zimbabwe problem as a chance to
> > get even with Europe. The neocolonialists may be devils but Mr Mugabe is
> > no angel. This man has been President of Zimbabwe since 1980 (27 years)
> > and still wants to extend his time. Either Zimbabweans can't get enough
> > of him  or should I say he just can't get enough of being there.
> >
> > Even if the MDC leaders receive money from outside interests to
> > campaign against the land reform program, is beating and detention
> > without trial the solution? Or is it that beating and detention without
> > due process is acceptable as long as its perpetrated by our own?
> >
> >
> > Malanding
> >
> >
> > Njaajaan Njaay wrote:
> >
> > > Jabou,
> > >
> > > This was the boldest move these leaders have made in a long time if
> > > ever; a
> > > slap on the face of neocolonialism and its runnning dogs. The resolution
> > > from the Tanzania meeting cannot leave anyone in doubt, calling on
> > > Britain
> > > to honour it's pledge and fund the Land Reform Program as agreed in
> > > 1979 and
> > > stop the progapanda and lies. These guys really made my day yesterday.
> > >
> > > You can already read it all over their media outlets, lying shamelessly
> > > about about the nature of the conflict in Zimbabwe and some "useful
> > > idiots,"
> > > traitors against their own, trying outdo eachother in sucking up.
> > >
> > > I have observed Desmond Tutu, among others, during the past few weeks
> > > playing the role of Uncle Tom and making a fool of himself in the
> > western
> > > media. I used to have some respect for the man but now I say: He can
> > > go hang
> > > too! Like the caption on the poster of Malcolm X hanging in my sitting
> > > room
> > > reads: "No compromise, No sellout!"
> > >
> > > Yes, I have observed how Thabo never abandoned Zimbabwe, for this is
> > > first
> > > and foremost about Zimbabwe and not about Mugabe as they want us to
> > > believe.
> > > I hope M'beki wags a finger at Tsvangarai and tell him to stop monkeying
> > > around, playing the poster boy of the west and put the interests of
> > > the poor
> > > and long suffering people of Zimbabwe first.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Kabir.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/30/07, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Kabir,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for this forward. I was waiting to see just what the SADC
> > leaders
> > >> will say and it is about time. It is to be noted that South Africa
> > >> has never
> > >> abandoned Zimbabwe and have never bought into the propaganda bandwagon
> > >> disguised as "concern for the people of Zimbabwe" Their experience
> > under
> > >> years of brutal apartheid has seen to that.
> > >>
> > >> The people of Zimbabwe may have their differences, but after decades of
> > >> apartheid under the old Rhodesian invaders, if the people of
> > >> Zimbabwee fail
> > >> to recognize that what is driving this machine disguised as caring
> > >> for their
> > >> welfare is a drive to stop the return of the land to it's legitimate
> > >> owners
> > >> and the reinstatement of the old domination order, they have not
> > learned
> > >> anything.
> > >>
> > >> As is to be expected, the news was reported here in the U.S with a
> > twist
> > >> to misinform but the message in the interview given by one of the South
> > >> African officials could not be disguised even with the spin.
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps a lightbulb has finally come on in the heads of at least some
> > of
> > >> our leaders and it is about time because the project to recolonize us
> > >> is in
> > >> full force and this time around, it is bathed in perfume to fool the
> > >> people
> > >> and the sad part is that there are always some Africans who are ready
> > to
> > >> sell their people and their own souls for a measely price until they
> > >> outlive
> > >> their usefulness as puppets because that day always comes.
> > >>
> > >> Jabou Joh
> > >>
> >
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