Mr. Bojang:
What good intentions are your elating to? Remember Jammeh does anything that
pleases him. Please reason with reality and condemn Jammeh when
inconsistencies arise.
Since he has taken over the Ministry of Agriculture, will he fire himself if
he fails to pay the farmers? Please don't sell your soul.
Truth should always prevail in political summation. We must wake up and
reason for equity.
Naphiyo,
Comrade ML Jassey-Conteh
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 23:08:15 -0500 Ousman bojang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Mr. Sanusi Owens,
> You wrote: ". I think some constitutional
> changes ought to be made to
> avert this style of mismanagement. "
>
> I think you are right. There should be
> something in the constitution
> that helps to avert such situations. And I
> think this would help to
> make the governmnet stronger. One of the
> advantages of that would be to
> keep track of what these folks did to warrant
> their firing. I am sure
> the president did all of those changes with
> good intentions, and not
> all of them are firings per se. I think some of
> them could not have
> fully do what they were nominated to do and
> that is why at times you
> see some of them landing to some other
> positions later. And I think
> that is the advantage of doing such changes
> too. The most advantage
> having such in the constitution, is that we
> will know what kind of
> misdeed some of these folks might have done so
> that in future they WILL
> not be entrusted with another public service.
> And I must emphasise that
> I do not think all the changes or removals are
> due to some criminal/dis-
> service to the nation. Some might just be as I
> said not able to do what
> they were choosen to do. And may be some of
> them are just because he
> lost trust in them to carry his agenda which is
> to develop the nation.
> And I think that is what we all want.
>
> Ousman Jallow Bojang.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sanusi Owens
> Date: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:21 am
> Subject: Re: new heads roll in the Gambia Civil
> Service?
>
> > Ous
> >
> > Lets face it President Jammeh has used his
> Executive
> > powers to hire and fire people
> indiscriminately. I
> > think some constitutional changes ought to be
> made to
> > avert this style of mismanagement. President
> Jammeh
> > has dismissed more Ministers/ Senior Civil
> Servants
> > than any of his counterparts in the West
> Africa
> > Africa. Within seven years of APRC rule, we
> have seen
> > the appointment of 5 Secretary Generals for
> the Civil
> > Service-From Larry Ceesay, Tapha Wadda,
> Tasmir Mbye
> > Ebou Ngum and Julia Joiner. Our Civil service
> is now
> > seen as laughing stock-there is no security
> of tenure
> > and these are the many reasons why
> intellectuals in
> > disapora are reluctant to serve the APRC
> REGIME.
> >
> > So please take note!!
> >
> > Sanusi
> >
> > --- Ousman bojang wrote: > Mr.
> > Sambou,
> > > With all respect, I have not said what you
> said.
> > > this is what you said:
> > >
> > > "How can he say
> > > that hirings and firings by Yaya is Yaya's
> business.
> > > No, it's not
> > > Yaya's business but the people of the
> Gambia's.
> > > Gambia is not Yaya's
> > > personal property and I seriously believe
> Ousman
> > > does not believe that
> > > either...
> > >
> > > What I said was:
> > >
> > > I do not subcribe to removing ministers for
> reasons
> > > which could be
> > > criminal
> > > without explaining to the nation. None the
> less, I
> > > think the president
> > > have
> > > the right to hire/fire any misiters he
> thinks fits
> > > him. He does not
> > > have to
> > > explain if it is his personal reason...
> > >
> > > On having the Gambians at heart, I think
> you are
> > > wrong to think or even
> > > feel that you have the Gambian at heart
> than any
> > > other Gambian. We are
> > > better off passing that grade level now.
> The gambia
> > > is important to you
> > > just as to any of us here. Just because we
> disagree
> > > on issues, does not
> > > mean that you or I or anyone here have the
> interest
> > > of the nation
> > > better than anyone else. How about the few
> who
> > > against most odds still
> > > went home and left the greener pasteurs
> behind? How
> > > could you or I
> > > think that we have the interest of the
> nation more
> > > than those we left
> > > behind? So Mr. Sambou, try to avoid making
> such
> > > statements to any
> > > Gambian. What I said on the civil servants
> was:
> > > "On the civil servants, i think a different
> > > measuring stick need to be
> > > used.
> > > No civil servant should be fired for jsut
> persoanl
> > > reasons being
> > > political
> > > or not. I think such affected folks should
> be able
> > > to challenege such
> > > actions unless if they thought or knew that
> they did
> > > something really
> > > bad....
> > >
> > > Dr. Jaiteh, what I meant by saying that is
> the
> > > president's business to
> > > hire and fire his political appointees is,
> if he
> > > feels that they do not
> > > serve his interest which I think is the
> interest of
> > > the nation too,
> > > then he should be able to fire them.He is
> elected to
> > > serve the nation
> > > and I think he is doing how best he knows
> to do it.
> > > Some might disagree
> > > with him, but most of the Gambians like me
> believe
> > > he is doing exactly
> > > that. One thing we need to understand is
> that we do
> > > not have a law
> > > where we confirm our political appointees
> and if
> > > they are to be fired,
> > > then how much say do we have as citizens? I
> will
> > > suggest we try to
> > > introduce some kind of provision to our
> system where
> > > we have a say of
> > > who is appointed. Only then could we have
> some
> > > control over how the
> > > replacement of such appointees are done. By
> the way,
> > > is there any
> > > country anyone here knows where no changes
> are done
> > > in ministerial
> > > level positions?
> > > My best regards to the family. Ramadan
> Mubarak to
> > > you all.
> > >
> > > Ousman Jallow Bojang.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Joe Sambou
> > > Date: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 3:17 pm
> > > Subject: Re: new heads roll in the Gambia
> Civil
> > > Service?
> > >
> > > > Malanding, I toast to that. It is
> becoming a norm
> > > for supporters
> > > > of Yaya to
> > > > endorse everything Yaya, without any
> regard for
> > > Gambians. Ousman
> > > > clearlydid not have Gambians in mind, but
> to
> > > stroke Yaya's ego.
> > > > How can he say
> > > > that hirings and firings by Yaya is
> Yaya's
> > > business. No, it's not
> > > > Yaya'sbusiness but the people of the
> Gambia's.
> > > Gambia is not
> > > > Yaya's personal
> > > > property and I seriously believe Ousman
> does not
> > > believe that
> > > > either. Why
> > > > he is saying that, beats me.
> > > >
> > > > Chi Jaama
> > > >
> > > > Joe Sambou
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Malanding Jaiteh
> > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues
> mailing
> > > list
> > > > >
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Subject: Re: new heads roll in the
> Gambia Civil
> > > Service?
> > > > >Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:35:03 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >Ousman,
> > > > >This is where I beg to differ with you.
> > > > >
> > > > >I believe that Gambian people's right to
> know
> > > about who Jammeh
> > > > fires or
> > > > >hires and why must supersede any right
> Jammeh has
> > > vested in him.
> > > > Also as
> > > > >far
> > > > >as the service of the Government and the
> people
> > > of the Gambia is
> > > > concern,>there is no place for personal
> reasons
> > > when it comes to
> > > > hire and fire. It
> > > > >should be for reasons of national
> interest plain
> > > and simple.
> > > > >
> > > > >Even where there is no specific
> requirement for
> > > him to consult
> > > > with the
> > > > >public he should go out of his way and
> do so. It
> > > can only
> > > > strengthen the
> > > > >people's confidence in him and his
> government.
> > > Afterall, a
> > > > principled CEO
> > > > >must have and present compelling reasons
> before
> > > the shareholders
> > > > (in this
> > > > >case the citizens) before hiring or
> firing
> > > executives. This is in
> > > > >accordance
> > > > >with common sense good practice.
> > > > >
> > > > >As regards the civil servants, I hope we
> > > recognize each time a
> > > > senior civil
> > > > >servant with a degree or two and a
> decade or more
> > > experience is
> > > > fired, the
> > > > >Gambia lose millions of Dalasi both in
> terms of
> > > money spent on
> > > > training and
> > > > >loss of productivity. Furthermore the
> colleagues
> > > they leave
> > > > behind would
> > > > >be
> > > > >even more reluctant to give all they
> have for one
> > > simple reason:
> > > > "eat drink
> > > > >and be merry for tomorrow you may ....".
> > > > >
> > > > >A Ramadan Kareem.
> > > > >
> > > > >Malanding
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: The Gambia and related-issues
> mailing list
> > > >
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf
> > > Of [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:30
> PM
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Subject: Re: new heads roll in the
> Gambia Civil
> > > Service?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Gassama,
> > >
> > === message truncated ===
> >
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