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Subject : Re: [>-<] Dr. Saine pulling on many legs/Magistrate Darboe
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Yero, Lamin,
I went through the exchange below but I got lost somewhere.
“Your mail alludes to the above from Dr Saine’s interview.”LJ
[Yes, perfectly right. Thanks for extracting the particular portion for
quick reference for all readers.] Yero.
“Since you floated this very idea some months ago, I wonder what rationale
underlies this particular thinking.”LJ
[Your choice of word “floated” respected as opinion difference but you
missed it. As far as I know, there isn’t any random movement on the matter, or to
say “suspension.” May be you are better asking for the progress
registered, and how much of consultation was done within and outside, ranging from
acquisition of a venue, material support, and consultation down to the main
opposition leaders and their key associates in the Diaspora.] Yero.
Yero, Lamin wanted to know the rationale for a National Unity Conference of
Diasporan Gambians with the attachments about opposition leaders or parties.
Putting semantics aside, I am also confused as to the purpose. The way I
understood it, it is an effort to unite disparate diasporans so we can build a
sense of comraderie and trust among each other to be leveraged in our future
endeavours for Gambia. I'm not sure how consultation with opposition parties
fits into that purpose. Unless of course there is a sub-agenda of the
conference.
[In addition to list of would-be-speakers, to which your name even appeared
twice on the mail. Sadly, the late Dr. Langlee will not witness any of such,
but his name was suggested also.] Yero.
I suggest you share with us all who our panelists are Yero.
“Like you, Dr Saine’s proposal is lacking in serious and substantial
justification.”LJ
[I understand your frustration on the matter. It’s a free world, so attached
to it, “freedom” and free way of thinking, initiating ideas, calling for
unification, so on and so forth. I respect Dr. Saine’s take on the matter
because it resonates with mine. However, I will limit myself to your challenge on
my part, and excuse my thread that I cannot talk on behalf of the man. For
the information of this forum, I once consulted him on the issue, as a way of
milking ideas from a learned and professional man of our time with versatile
experience, just like I will do with you or any other person. In fact, I did
with many others here by e-mail or telephone, from Europe, America, Asia and
Africa. Your usage of the word “serious” in the above could as well be
termed lacking “serious” or “substantial justification” since you only threw a
dry cap. I am not wearing that cap because it doesn’t fit me. Or to say not
aware of the level the idea propagated and what was the feedback.] Yero.
This is where the two of you started to lose me or more specifically Lamin
started to lose me.
Lamin, it is quite disappointing that you view Dr. Saine's proposal as
lacking in serious and substantial justification. The proposal is that after our
experiences in STGF, STGDP, NADD, and ARC and the attendant acrimony prevalent
among us diasporans, we must resolve to begin anew, adroit. Dr. Saine
suggested and I agreed that instead of immediately beginning another effort to
encourage a coalition of opposition parties, it would be wise to bridge the
divide among diasporan Gambians in order that our synergies can be more
efficiently leveraged. In other words to create the requisite national ambiance for
future common engagements. That is the rationale and I think it is serious and
substantive. I encourage you to reconsider the value of such communion.
[I thank all those that contributed in ideas, greatly.] Yero.
This is grateful of you Yero, and Lamin alluded to the need for such
communion some months back and I know he is among the folk you just thanked. Even
the effort to encourage a coalition of opposition parties is premised on such
communion.
[If I remember correctly, your reference to such a conference was along the
lines of a necessity for national reconciliation.] Yero.
That's what I meant Lamin encouraged.
"Alongside the “opposition leaders”, are you minded to invite our
healer-President to such a national reconciliation jamboree?”LJ
Lamin I know you're being fastitious here.
[Yes, your memory is sharp. That was part of my line of thinking. In fact,
lekki (In Atlanta) was one such believers of Jammeh attending the same
jamboree, if you will allow me to borrow it from you.] Yero.
Woh woh woh woh!!! Yero, tell me you're not serious. This is one of the
reasons I think you're unduly burdening the National Unity Conference for
diasporans. I withdraw my pledge of $3000.00 toward logistics for the conference if
Yahya will be a participant in it. I don't mind APRC supporters
participating and I think we should encourage that but Yahya? A outhou Billaah.
[I respect much the advice and line of thinking he had then. Yes, to reveal
to the public here that the matter was long since communicated to the
opposition, except for one who was out of the country at the time. It was bond that
the matter was confidential, and they said well of their honest views on the
matter which I respect much. They were very open to any such move.] Yero.
Ma Yero, could you humor me then what the reason for your desire to keep
your activities toward a National Unity Conference of Diasporans a secret from
diasporans but it is valuable to consult with the opposition leaders and to
consider inviting Yahya??????? There's something I don't understand here. Tell
me you're joking.
[See, when you are undergoing the process, you learn from it. You develop
mature ideas from the initial point; hence the human thinking can never be
stagnant. You change from one good idea to the best one. One of the people to
have pioneered the idea here, if my memory serves me well, was Haruna Darboe.
Much respect to the guy,] Yero.
Thank you Yero but I learned of the idea from one of our fellow citizens at
Ellen, his name escapes me at the moment. When I shared the idea here, you
were one of the first people to second it. So I thought it'd be a great idea
if you and Gainako were to sponsor such an occasion to which you delightfully
acquiesced. I consulted with Dr. Saine and I shared his collaborative
insights here with everyone. And you have been tirelessly working on oputting it
together with assistance from your able associates at Gainako. And you ought to
be commended for it. While I'm here, I wonder if you would consider
consulting with The Gambia Echo, The Point, The Independent, GambiaNews, and other
Gambian newspapers and seek their assistance. It could be valuable.
[he even pledged some financial support incase the event is to
materialize.] Yero.
Yero, I pledged financial support for logistics to coordinate a Diaspora
National Unity Conference. Not after it succeeds. The support was meant to help
it succeed. However, with your expanded purpose, I will not complete my
pledge because the scope and nature of the conference have been alttered. Unless
of course you were being sarcastic.
[I understand that such calls were made my others in other forums, probably
to which I didn’t follow well, or simply not a member to. Much respect to
those also. If it takes to steal a good idea and implement it, hei “fire”. If
one can read one’s book or written piece from some brilliant person and
implement it, hei “fire.” Then, one becomes a good thief.] Yero.
There was no stealing here. And I don't think Lamin implies there was one.
There is no such thing as a good thief Yero. Be careful. A thief is always
bad.
[As well, ideas can be of coincidence. I am sure many have positive ways of
thinking, though; they might be shy, diffident or simply lacking the spirit
to put it forward. Though carefulness must be exercise in making these calls,
but one must never give it the “wait lets see” ideology.] Yero.
You just wanted to say this didn't you?
[I won’t mind displaying some of the pieces that were thrown out there. I
knew a day will come when I will have to account for my words, carefully
written in the most honest way.] Yero.
Settle down men.
“Since Dr Saine is not here to address issues regarding an undefended
proposal,”LJ
There is no proposal for Dr. Saine to defend Lamin. Dr. Saine was giving us
his unequivocal support should we embark on a National Unity conference. I
hope you see value in such an endeavour. I gotta come talk to you men; longing
around in your friggin pool. Tell me you're just messing with Yero.
[I don’t know if the guy is in this forum or not, though for the short time
I have been at the Gpost, I never remember seeing his thread here. That doesn
’t tell me he is not here either. He could as well be a reader like the
thousand others. But I can forward anything to this forum, just like everyone
else does, as long as it doesn’t infringe on some one else’s freedom. For a
fact, the said interview with except above is carried by a widely read newspaper
that simply requires just having internet and you will be on the piece.]
Yero.
What da khell?? If you start forwarding stuff to Dr. Saine I'll wring your
small neck. Lamin is just pulling your friggin legs. Men. You guys get so
easily unsettled, you scare the hell outta me. Settle down.
“why do you,”LJ
[Why not me? Why not you? Why not everyone else who truly believe in true
redemption? Who is excluded except the one that excludes him or her self? The
answer to these questions will be my answer to you, my
brother.] Yero.
Indeed Lamin. I would answer the same way to you. I think you just felt
like giving Yero a hard time today.
“and Gainako,”LJ
Say What??? I'm beginning to feel there's some underlying anxieties here
Lamin that do not have anything to do with a National Unity Conference. Tell me
it ain't so.
[Point of correction: Gainako is only a medium of communication, a media
outlet, like the very tool you and I are communicating right now. They [Gainako
to which I am a consortium of] beliefs in promoting democracy and freedom.
They promote positive agendas and engage instrumental figures in the society
in their own little way.
I wish the name was not even in your thread, to help me avoid answering
questions individually pertaining to that forum. Little or big, just some
excerted effort meant in a positive way.] Yero.
No Yero, if I were you, I'd be proud that Gainako has agreed to undertake
such effort. I don't believe Lamin has an issue with either you or Gainako
sponsoring the event. I think I'm getting a headache!! Lamin where have you
been anyway for the past few months. I have not been reading you like I always
loved to. You must have been extremely busy. Say hi once in a while. I always
ask about you to a mutual friend. I understand you're affected by a certain
unfortunate incident. Please accept my unequivocal support.
“take a similar view that the political Diaspora should concern itself with
such a conference at this point in time?” LJ.
Yes. I am with you on this Lamin if I understand your angst. I think it is
ill-advised to include the opposition leaders with a view to expanding the
scope of the conference at this time. Certainly not Yahya. Yero, I encourage
you to reconsider your expanded scope.
[Good one. Like they say “better late than never.” Is it late magistrate
Darboe? Many others did their part, certainly. Should this struggle be limited
to that? In my humble opinion, an emphatic “no” and that’s why “time” is
there to be the master. Diaspora Gambia will be very instrumental towards any
unification of Gambians
at home. I am sure you agree to this without a second thought.] Yero.
Hah???? You're losing me Yero. Like I said, I encourage you to revisit your
scope of work.
“If you are not the originator of the idea, why do you think you are
adequately positioned to midwife such a proposal?” LJ.
Lamin, I think it is unwise to suggest that only the originator of ideas of
national import ought to midwife implementation of such ideas. Certainly the
honour should be accorded fellow citizens. That is where communion begins. I
cannot believe you would have a problem with Yero or Gainako husbanding this
event. Its only a National Unity Conference. You guys are totally confusing
the heck outta me. Is there really any problem?? Yero, I think you could do
us all a favour by limiting your scope to the initial idea and not unduly
burden yourself. Because if you don't you have lost Lamin and myself. If you
intend to stick with the expanded scope, I have to reconsider my support or
participation. I will still love you for your efforts.
"I thought we haven’t come to that part yet, but you are a very smart
thinker. Who is the originator and what has he been doing towards the proposal? I
would like to know and rally behind the guy humbly. Like clearly stated
before, its no one left behind, except the one that felt isolated in putting their
stake upfront. I am never afraid to put my points across, in as much as I
know it’s a good undertaking." Yero.
You guys are a handful. Originator of what?????? At a boy Yero.
Note: By the way, thank you for a thread. I wish all should be probed in a
similar manner at any time, done in a way to promote and support healthy
discourses without hidden motive to underrate or bring down. Such will be very
brotherly. Catch you later on this debate. Humbly submitted," Yero, aog.
That's the spirit. I hope Lamin will reconsider his disposition. I hope you
will consider the scope of works too gaddamn it. Haruna. Go away you two.
Darbo!!!What????
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