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Haruna, you know what, as you know better than me, the scientific world are still working hard to make a break through in many ailments affecting the animal kingdom. there are no answers to some of those problem.
  God make it clear that there are some things we have no understanding of. in the mental hospitals, all the doctors could do sometimes is to make the mad people less violent. they cannot cure them. how do explain those? also the whole concept of depression, what singular issue is responsible for it? this are trouble questions scientist are working hard on.
  so it is not only the Jinn issue that humans are finding difficult to understand, many other every day issues. Like for instance when some people kill or commit murder, they confess to hearing voices. have you ever heard of this cases? finally, are we as humans in complete control of our mind?  

Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
  
Suntou, Mbye,

I am following your conversation and writhing with ominous glee. Suntou I 
think our brother Sey is onto som'n. Could Jinns be viruses???? its worth 
further study. Ebola, the Human immuno-deficiency Virus, Bird Flu, Denghe, Mad 
Cow, etc. and on account of their mutative attributes (camouflage). I wonder!!

BTW, I ain't marrying nobody I can't friggin see. Fire up the friggin Kiln 
Mbye! What a wonderful weekend!

Haruna.

In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:34:20 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
[log in to unmask] writes:

Thanks Mr Sey for asking this questions.
I am assuming that you are a Muslim, if i am wrong please correct me. if you 
are, then i will refer you to certain verses of the Quran and specifically 
to a chapter talking about the existence of jinns and how the manipulate some 
people.
Jinns are another creation of God the most high. they came from their won 
ancestor just like we as humans came from Adam and Eve. Jinns came from a 
creature referred to as Iblis or the Devil or Satan.
read quran chapter 2 verse 34, chapter 7 verse 11-18, chapter 15 verse 
31-44, chapter 17 verse 61-65, chapter 18 verse 50, chapter 20 verse 116-120, 
chapter 34 verse 20-21, and chapter 38 verse 71-85.
and also chapter 5 verse 91, chapter 7 verses 200-201, chapter 114 verses 
4-6, chapter 20 verse 120, and finally, chapter 7 verses 20,21,27,175.

Brother Sey, read this verses. The quran abundantly warm mankind against our 
mortal enemy the devil and his off-springs.
now coming to your questions

1. What dose jinns look like humans or animals birds ?
truly i don't know how Jinns look like. what is evident in many hadiths or 
narration of the prophet of Islam is that, Jinns can take the form many 
creatures, especially dogs, cats, snake, birds and even humans. there are base of 
deception, so they can take a form necessary for them to be able to deceive 
their targets. those who incant their names can tell us may be how their Jinns 
appear to them. there have been many narration by people in the Gambia of 
people going mad due to seeing a certain Jinn they were calling. this is best 
known as too leeeya muta (the name as made him crazy.) quiet a lot of young 
would be marabouts go crazy due to this phenomenon. so jinn can feel a room in a 
Snake form or a big bird very scary to the caller.
according to other sources, Jinn answer to people with the right age, so if 
one due to greed wish to have a jinn answer to him, and his age is below the 
required limit, you may go mad.
the Ahamadiyas. dispute there being a Jinn, but i would rather believe in 
explanation of the noble prophet of Islam, than the ahamadiya folks.

2. How do they live and were do they eat and drink like us ?
some hadiths stated that Jinn, live in a parallel world to us. they dwell in 
remote places, since we cannot see them, they pick through dirt and 
uncovered food. this is why a strong tradition exist among Muslims to make sure food 
is covered and that before night fall, children are brought indoors. Jinns 
eat and drink in ways God made possible for them but you can conduct further 
reading in that aspect. in fact there is judo-Christan explanation of demons 
around as well.

3. Are they Muslims Christians or whatever?
the quran states that some Jinns are muslims and some are not. some also 
state that jinn hear the word of god from the environment they dwell. so if they 
become convince about Christianity, they may adopt it just like we humans do.
4. What languages do they speak?
i don't know the language they speak among themselves. what is clear is that 
they communicate with people who invoke them in that person's language.
5. How comes we can see them and they can see us?
may be you wanted to say, "how comes we can't see them and they can see us". 
to this i would say, this is the wishes of God, that i have no answer to. 
God does what he wills. he made lions, different, tigers, and even we humans, 
we are different. some us are white, some are brown, black and yellow.
6. Can we marry (husband/wife) jinns and have children with them?
people made remarks to that effect, there are some narrations that some 
people marry Jinns. but what the Islamic stand point is that, we are forbidden in 
marrying Jinn. we are not the same make-up. they are created form fire and 
we from clay. it is not suppose to happen. i haven't read any text stating 
whether people marry jinns. but it is a common saying in the Gambia that some 
people have Jinn woman.
7. Are all jinns wicked towards human beings?
not all jinn are wicked. the quran states that some Jinn are Muslims and 
obey the revelation. they come and listen to the recitation of the quran. the 
majority obeys their ancestor the Satan who rebel against God.
8. if so why do hate us?
i gave the reason for that on mt earlier thread "our relationship with the 
Satan as humans". 
thank you brother Sey for asking, i appreciate it. my intention is just to 
clarify a practise which is chronic in our region. i do not intend to tarnish 
or castigate any one. if we see evil, our intentions should be to remove. May 
Allah forgive me and continue to guide us. amen. the errors are mine.



baboucarr Sey wrote:
Dear Suntou very interesting reading Marabouts Jinns.
I have some questions for if you can help answer them.

What dose jinns look like humans or animals birds ?

How do they live and were do they eat and drink like us ?

Are they Muslims Christians or whatever?
What languages do they speak?
How comes we can see them and they can see us?
Can we marry (husband/wife) jinns and have children with them?
Are all jinns wicked towards human beings? if so why do hate us?

Suntou I hope you can find time to mystify or satisfy my curiosity 
concerning the this subject,
thank you in advance 
e
Mby



Let modesty be the rule of observance.



----- Original Message ----
From: SUNTOU TOURAY 
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Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 7:18:52 AM
Subject: kelefa sanneh book

i was given a book about the life of kelefa sanneh by SOAS.
it is interesting if you are a nyancho. here is my comments. 
http://suntoumana.blogspot.com/

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