RE- ” Of course you see it used crudely like the "N-word" in
 the US.”
My understanding, feeling about “boy-boy” is that there is a visible component of uncle-tom ( cringing in front of the toubabu) - (-foolery) in the expression “boy-boy”, one of not just mental and spiritual subservience but servility – and - as for putting up appearances, slaves had more painful alternatives and faced even death, boss . We all now know that all men are created equal, without hierarchy in the dignity and the self-respect.
Boy-boys usually gather round presidents, compete and vie with each other in pleasing and being willing to execute even their most evil desires, standing in queue to light up his cigar, to pay his parking bill, the toilet paper on the ready, yes boss what’s next, faithful to the very last you want me now to wipe your ass?
>
> From: Cornelius Edward Hamelberg <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2007/03/30 fr AM 01:45:58 CEST
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Ämne: Re: cast system in the gambia
>
> Malanding,
>
> Your posting is bookmarked as homework and I thank you for it.
>
> Yeh, I know. Those Gambian Akus are still sitting on the banks of the river Gambia, unafraid, staying there more as convenience and far sounder than having to face the challenge of the inner wilderness, the swamps, yellow fever, and those generally hostile & anti-missionary mosquitoes.
>
> To what extent are the Gambian Akus " absorbed” into other indigenous relationships? I'm impressed that all the Gambian Akus that I know speak Krio - and Wolof, sometimes other languages too. At the same time - I could explain in greater detail, the Gambian Akus are more Krio than the Krio - but this impression is perhaps because I cannot distinguish them from Sierra Leone Akus until they speak Wolof or Mandinka...
> There is a lot of inter-marriage in Sierra Leone. The Krios are among the great sufferers today and even land and properties often have to change hands.....
>
> 95% of the Gambian Akus I know are Christian and have best relations with Gambian and American Muslims. In Sierra Leone 70 % of my friends were Christian and served JOllof Rice or Fry Stew on Sundays…..
>
> >
> > From: Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 2007/03/29 to PM 04:52:14 CEST
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Ämne: Re: cast system in the gambia
> >
> > Mr. Hamelberg,
> > Perhaps some clarification will help focus discussion on the topic at hand.
> >
> > First the AKU do not have a place in the Gambian Caste system. This
> > group came into Gambian ethnic politics in 1840. Even then they were
> > primarily part of British Gambia and till now been restricted to what is
> > Banjul, Janjanbureh and British Kommbo (KMC).
> >
> > Secondly Gambian caste system predates Islam. In fact one can claim that
> > both Sahelian Africans- those bordering the Sahara (Gambia included) and
> > the pre-Islam Arabs learned from the same teachers- Egyptians.
> >
> > Thirdly "boy-boy" is an English term. This is the same as "Boy" in east
> > and southern Africa. The true Gambian term is "Mbindan" - house keeper/
> > au pair/ maid. Of course you see it used crudely like the "N-word" in
> > the US. It is true that a large proportion of "Mbindan" in the 70s thru
> > 90s were Jola but had nothing to do with their religion or ehtnicity.
> > Infact every ethnic group in the Gambia has one time or another been
> > "Mbindan" or "boy-boy" begining with the AKU and Wolof in the 19th
> > century. History has it that a number of Wolof came to Banjul from Goree
> > and other colonial establishments as housekeepers and servants to
> > Portuguese Mulato Senoras. The AKU with their knowledge of English
> > became natural helpers to the British. As these two groups climbed the
> > economic ladder they in turn began having "boy-boy" and "Mbindan". The
> > AKU had "Boy-boy" housekeepers, garden boys and street vendors drawn
> > primarily from Mandinka. The term "Nna Aku Kebba" ( my old AKU man)
> > dates back to this period when AKU were employers and powerful to the
> > Mandinka. The saying goes that only the AKU were ever "high" or old
> > enough for the Mandinka to call them "Nna Kebba". All others including
> > Europeans are assigned less respectful term "Nding" (small) as in "Nna
> > Surwaa Nding" (my small Wolof), "Nna Fula Nding" (my small Fula0 and
> > "Nna Tubabu Nding"(my small Tubab). The Wolof were next in line to
> > have their own house keepers - "Mbindan" - meaning one who is signed up
> > (help me out Wolof speakers). At this time the Mandinka were "too good"
> > to be Mbindan as they also found their way to the pot of honey
> > (political and economic power) with independence and education. The
> > Jolas were the able and willing in the 70s thu 90s. However the
> > composition of "Mbindan" has changed since. The last time I was in the
> > Gambia I saw a number Manjago, Balanta and other Cassamance and Guinea
> > Bissau nationals in all sorts of home including those of Jola. The fact
> > is "Mbindan" and "boy-boy" are recent phenomena and artifacts of modern
> > economic structures.
> >
> > Finaly, I do not know what "true slavery" is but I can say that there is
> > no slavery in the Gambian. This does not mean there aren't groups that
> > would marginalize others based on their ancestry, economic status or
> > ehtnicity. However discriminations based on caste are largely
> > disappearing thanks to education and economic.
> >
> > Malanding Jaiteh
> >
> > Just to help focus the discussion on the caste system.
> >
> > Cornelius Edward Hamelberg wrote:
> >
> > >Suntou,
> > >
> > >Thanks for raising this issue.
> > >
> > > Let me begin with a question: Where do the AKU, fit into all this? What is their place in the Caste system? How do education/ wealth affect a person's standing? Are men and women equal in the Gambian Caste system? What about the Quranic "Those whom your right hand possess"?
> > >
> > >"Boy-boy" is a very Gambian expression which I take to mean, "Underling" "minion" some sort of servant to a "Master". I've heard it said that the Jolas - the ethnic group that has been most resistant to Islam, used to serve the other groups and to some extent be subservient to them. True?
> > >
> > >The very first question that comes to mind on reading your complaint: Is there any type of slavery in such a system?
> > >
> > >(Let's limit ourselves to the Gambia area)
> > >
> > >This is a very interesting topic, if it can be freely discussed, considering that we are used to agreeing with the statement that "All men are equal" - especially in our "one man one vote" societies.
> > >
> > >Society is mostly always organised in some hierarchical fashion. Today you have the democratically elected president Jammeh, the equivalent of some ancient King, e.g. Mansa Musa and then you have the loyal citizens among whom are the landowning Lords, chiefs, Dukes, Counts and countesses, Earls, Barons, and maybe also chiefs of Police.....
> > >
> > >http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=All+men+are+equal&btnG=Search&meta=
> > >
> > >And in the hereafter?
> > >
> > >Unfortunately when you say CASTE SYSTEM - it is India that is represented - India's very structured social order from ancient times:
> > >
> > >http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=The+Caste+System+in+India&meta=
> > >
> > >
> > > I know that there is a sort of Caste system among the Mandinka, are the Banguras not part of the warrior caste (who would be a sizeable part of the army and police?) Who are the Camaras? Then you have the princes and princesses? The agricultural workers- special caste? The Musicians? The intellectuals?
> > >But it's not as rigid or as defined as in the ancient Laws of Manu. In India today the Dalits have taken up their cause.
> > >In the Gambia, surely there is no discriminatory tradition and I'm sure that anyone can be president? True? And in Mauritania?
> > >
> > >http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Dalits+in+India&meta=
> > >
> > >http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=Caste%20system%20in%20the%20Gambia
> > >
> > >http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Caste+system+in+the+Gambia&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
> > >
> > >Now let me sit back and observe and learn.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Suntou Touray <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>Date: 2007/03/29 to PM 12:53:50 CEST
> > >>To: [log in to unmask]
> > >>Ämne: cast system in the gambia
> > >>
> > >>i know this may be an imfamous subject but we need to venture into this
> > >>
> > >>territores as well.
> > >>i have seen evidences of cast system still happening in most parts of the
> > >>
> > >>gambia ,the question is should we allow this ugly malnorma to be happenin
> > >>g
> > >>at this day and age ?
> > >>i read a piece here on gambai l about the colour divide in south america
> > >>
> > >>especially brazil but what about where the issue is not colour but custom
> > >>s
> > >>of old .no one can denied that cast system happens in the gambia and to m
> > >>y
> > >>knowledge i have never heard any government agency trying to address this
> > >>
> > >>problem.
> > >>some may be at lost here as cast system or calling certain families of
> > >>
> > >>slave decendant don't occure in every part of the gambia. some parts of
> > >>
> > >>the kombos don't know
> > >>cast system,but in the interlands of the gambia it happens.
> > >>it is a very ugly practice and we need to educate our people about the
> > >>
> > >>harmful nature of its continous occurance.
> > >>i have seen an incidence in u.k last year when a young gambian guy wanted
> > >>
> > >>to marry another gambian lady only to be interrupted by some else.
> > >>the interfarer claim that the lady should try to find out the family clas
> > >>s
> > >>of the young man before any marriage proposal can take place. ofcourse th
> > >>e
> > >>young lady was shocked at such nonsence but still the marriage plans was
> > >>
> > >>altared. when the would be wife asked the man about just thing the man wa
> > >>s
> > >>very hurt because back in the gambia his family where regarded as a lower
> > >>
> > >>cast. so he though such nonsence will not follow him up to u.k but it did
> > >>.
> > >>the would be wife didn't care any way and the marriage happens.but if the
> > >>
> > >>family of the young lady had been from the same area as the man the
> > >>marraige wouldn't have happen. i am not a sociologist , and my family
> > >>backgroung is not regarded as of lower cast but i am from areas where
> > >>people are put in there place.
> > >>i am humblely appealing to gambians brothers and sisters to do away with
> > >>
> > >>this old age custom of ours which is worthless and useless ,it doesn't
> > >>
> > >>serve any purpose just petty enemity. let freedom reign and brotherhood i
> > >>n
> > >>unity bind us together.the human family as always been divided ot all age
> > >>s
> > >>and our age is no exception .the number of human beings forced to work fo
> > >>r
> > >>others for free is exestimate to over 12.5 million people world wide.
> > >>the issue of race is sentive but race is not the only problem here.
> > >>among pulfutas and jahankas labelling a darker complexion ignorant or
> > >>black is a common words which to me is silly . the jahakans can easily
> > >>
> > >>call a non- jahankas ignorant or lacking knowledge just because you are
> > >>
> > >>not one of them .
> > >>the fairer pulfutas regularly do the same. we can elaborate on this topic
> > >>
> > >>at lenght ,but as usual people will go back in their cells and behave as
> > >>
> > >>if this ugly misnorma doesn't happen. it does.i don't want to name places
> > >>
> > >>where it is prevalent but the cast system happens in
> > >>mandinka ,sarahuleh ,fulla ,jahanka communitees .i don't know about wollo
> > >>f
> > >>communitees.even if we can't say any thing about but don't be a party to
> > >>
> > >>it.
> > >>we are all born free. let's remain free.
> > >>suntou.
> > >>
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