"I left Gambia in 1994 after I was harassed and my passport seized, and I
have
never returned there again. I passed through the airport without a passport
returning back to Sweden with the last SPIES flight in 1994, and I really
have no information about what is going on on the ground."
Elhajj, please refresh my memory here. Did you not tell us that the first
republic was harassing you and confiscated your properties and did you
recall my long exchange with you regarding "The Mafia" in Gambia, then? Oh,
I see, now it is Yaya. How come we labeled you then a Yaya sympathizer?
Did you remember that label? The same folks that were in those discussions
are right here and the computer savvy among us can dig up that material if
it should drag to that level. My advice to you is to keep up the fight
against Yaya, but stay the hell away with your tribe/ethnic card. And
please be consistent with your principles.
If it is worth anything to you, in my 19 years in the US, I went to Gambia
twice. In 1999 when my brother passed away, and in 2000. I was there when
Dumo was arrested in June of 2000 and I told the readers my experience then.
Now, in your convoluted thinking that makes me someone Yaya will preserve.
I know even Tony D, is dying laughing at this your ridiculous conclusion.
Chi Jaama
Joe Sambou
>From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: ANOTHER RWANDA LURKING BEHING GAMBIANS!!
>Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 06:22:12 +0200
>
>Joe,
>I, for one, have NEVER changed my stance of calling Yaya a tribalist, armed
>thief, armed murderer, Tony Daaba and Armuumin. I stand firm by what I am
>writing,
>and saying in all the midia houses. You mention in one of your mails that
>Tombong said, the people shouting on the G-L and the G-post are the
>followers of the Yaya sycophants. COULD YOU AND TOMBONG POINT YOUR FINGERS
>TO WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE ? I care less about what these sycophants
>are having, and be rest assured that another government will recover every
>single butut they stole from the Gambian people. Joe, you last went to
>Gambia in the year 2000, and you had no problem with the Yaya government.
>As
>you said in your Tam Tam interview, you are always intouch with Gambia and
>you know everything happening on the ground. I think we have a different
>case. Yaya will not hesitate to murder me, if I step my foot in Gambia. I
>left Gambia in 1994 after I was harassed and my passport seized, and I have
>never returned there again. I passed through the airport without a passport
>returning back to Sweden with the last SPIES flight in 1994, and I really
>have no information about what is going on on the ground. So pls., both you
>and Tombong should tell us who the sycophants followers are, rather than
>using ironical words on the G-L and G-P. I will never associate myself with
>these people, who are having Gambian blood on their hands. The ghosts of
>our
>innocent brothers and children are hunting them both day and night, so
>these
>people have their own problems with no end of sleepless nights. I care much
>about my pride and not the worldly goods, which all of us will leave
>behind.
>Even their boss Tony Daabaa does not have that blessing for me to follow
>him, to get some of his stolen wealth. Joe, I agree with you that Yaya is
>surrounded by other tribes. But could you kindly tell us who are
>controlling
>the army ( carrying arms everyday ) and all the other security positions?
>Maybe you have some information about that, more than the soldiers who were
>with them.
>
>Elhajj.
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joe Sambou" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 11:49 PM
>Subject: Re: ANOTHER RWANDA LURKING BEHING GAMBIANS!!
>
>
> > Binneh, thanks for your response. We both agree that Yaya is a
>tribalist
> > and would use anyone to that end. However, unlike Rwanda, the majority
>that
> > are doing Yaya's dirty work are the sycophants that run the whole ethnic
> > spectrum, thus my mention of Mandinka, Wolof, and Fula, etc., not just
> > Mandinka alone. I care less what Yaya's ethnicity is, just like I care
>less
> > what religion he is. I am not constrained by tribe, religion,
>friendship,
> > bloodlines or any of those baseless leanings, thus, I'm surprised by the
> > insinuation. I also never mentioned a RED anything in my response, so I
>do
> > not know why the reference in your response. When you said:
> >
> > "Majority versus minority feelings feelings that are being provoked by
>one
> > leader and HIS FOLLOWERS for political and selfish reasons."
> >
> > Who are the followers, ARPC or Jolas? I say the followers are APRC, and
> > they run the entire ethnic spectrum. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
> >
> > "The nocturnal dances that Yahya organizes at his village every day have
>an
> > underlying ethnocentric meaning. He projects those dances on national TV
> > while other tribes are watching with anger.Journalists are obliged to
> > concentrate on projecting the traditional displays of one tribe(being
>his)
> > on national TV."
> >
> > We agree on what Yaya does above. However, I'm also saying that the
>other
> > tribes that you say are watching are the APRC folks that includes Jolas.
> > Again, it is not ethnicity but the sycophancy of all around him. Please
> > correct me if I am mistaken.
> >
> > "These tribes men use machetes,knives and other things to show other
>tribes
> > that they are spiritually powerful and that is appealing which is
>fuelling
> > hidden reactions within other circles back home."
> >
> > Now, we are not talking about Yaya here, but a group. Am I right in
>that
> > assumption?
> >
> > "Why doesn't Yahya invite other tribes and ethnic groups to display and
>then
> > he sells that to the outside world as one Gambia?"
> >
> > Again, we agree that Yaya is a tribalist.
> >
> > "Within Yahya's own ethnic group there are people who he sees as
>inferior
> > because his own immedaitely family geneology are better when it comes to
> > such magical powers.Yahya's myopic ethno! centric and paternalistic
>feelings
> > are meant to provoke an ethnic conflict."
> >
> > Yes, I agree with your first sentence, that Yaya is a tribalist.
>However,
>I
> > do not see the link in your second, because the sycophants that surround
>him
> > are not only Jola, but across all ethnic groups. So, who is going to
> > conduct the ethnic cleansing for him? I suppose not FJC et al, for they
> > control what goes on in that country.
> >
> > Minteh, please understand that there is Yaya as an individual and a
>Jola,
> > and there are innocent Jolas that are anti what Yaya stands for, just
>like
> > you. What I will challenge is the use of Yaya as a Jola to make
>spillover
> > statements that will unduly characterize other Jolas and I would have
> > reacted if the same was said about any ethnic group. Like I told Elhajj
>a
> > while back, there is a difference between discussing Yaya's tribalism
>and
> > making tribalistic statements. The former is the description of the
> > behavior of an individual and the latter is the smearing of a whole
>group
> > wrongly. The sycophants that do the damage in Gambia is what is
>bringing
> > Gambia down and not Yaya's ethnicity, even though Yaya is a tribalist.
>The
> > only way you can have ethnic cleansing is when the entire leadership is
>from
> > a homogeneous group. Can you say that about Gambia and those around
>Yaya?
> > I also do not think of Gambians in terms of ethnicity and would
>challenge
> > any regardless ethnicity, religion, friendship, or blood lines if I
>disagree
> > with their position. Mine was not to critisize you but to argue that it
>is
> > sycophancy that is destroying us and not Yaya's stupid tribalism, thus
>my
> > examples of who is around him.
> >
> > I also think we have more in common in getting Yaya and the APRC out and
> > that, you can take to the bank.
> >
> > Chi Jaama
> >
> > Joe Sambou
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Binneh S Minteh <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: ANOTHER RWANDA LURKING BEHING GAMBIANS!!
> > >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:34:52 -0500
> > >
> >
> > >From: Binneh S Minteh <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: ANOTHER RWANDA LURKING BEHING GAMBIANS!!
> > >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:34:52 -0500
> > >
> >
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