Brothers Saul and Hamjatta, my heartfelt thanks to you. In a handful of
postings, you have done what I tried to do in almost three hundred postings;
i.e. you got a top Yaya official to admit, for the record, that Yaya ordered
the massacre of our children on April 10 and 11, 2000. Jobe cannot run away
from this statement: "I personally believe that as commander in chief the
president must have given the order to shoot or his VP, Mrs. Isatou Njie
Saidy, as Ag. Commander in chief then." This statement is a damning
statement. Jobe now admits that the person he supports on G_L and elsewhere
is a child murderer. For that purpose, this is a bombshell. Now Jobe is at
the mercy of Yaya.

But when you put this statement from Jobe under forensic scrutiny,  you will
recognize that the statement is not as damning to Yaya as it would first
appear to the naked eye. Jobe is trying to hook Yaya through what is called
the Collective Responsibility Doctrine in legal parlance. I touched on that
the other day when I spoke about the Legal Case Against Yaya as far as the
Massacre is concerned.

Saul, this is the weakest case we can get against Yaya. Did you notice how
Jobe gave Yaya wriggle room to come back and say that it was Isatou
Njie-Saidy that gave the fateful and callous orders? This is a
circumstantial evidence case. This case has been there all along. Frankly, I
thought the vermin will come up with this a long time ago and sacrifice the
poor woman. But they do not have the capacity to cover the tracks of their
criminal acts.

As I said, we do not need this weak doctrine to Hang Yaya. There is strong,
direct evidence (as opposed to circumstantial evidence) that Yaya pulled the
trigger on our children. There is no wriggle room for the vermin. If
Njie-Saidy has any sense, she will ready herself for being the fall person.
I will also be magnanimous with her and tell her to read between the lines
of Hamjatta's unmasking of Kebba Jobe. These statements and arguments from
Jobe, are coming from the top of this APRC criminal outfit. When the time
comes, matters will be clarified.

I hope people realize that Jobe's silly concession is a far cry from saying
that Yaya Ordered the Massacre Because there is concrete evidence to say
that Yaya did. For instance, Jobe is not saying that Yaya ordered his people
to fill the RVH mortuary before he left for Cuba. Jobe did not say that Yaya
was constantly on the phone with his people and gave direct Orders to the
police and the military to shot to kill our children. Jobe did not say that
Njie-Saidy would not dare order the massacre without receiving Orders from
Yaya. Jobe did not explain why Njie-Saidy is still in her post after
participating in the most heinous crime in Gambian history, against Yaya's
will.

You see how Jobe ignored a lot of crucial facts and instead attempt to give
Yaya wriggle room by pointing us to the direction of Njie-Saidy? Well, I
hate to disappoint Jobe and inform him that we closed all the loop-holes for
Yaya. Yaya cannot beat this rap. The Collective Responsibility Doctrine will
be used all right. It will be used to get all the cabinet members. It will
be used to Hang the Tombongs of this world that came to G_L after the fact
to peddle lies for Yaya. It will be used against Pap Cheyassin Secka for the
despicable job he did with the Coroner's Inquest and the Commission of
Inquiry. It will be used against Sankung Badgie, Baboucarr Jatta, Baba Jobe
and all the vermin that unleash these animals on our children and stand by
and watch the children get slaughtered. The Doctrine will be used all right.
But it will NOT be used to exculpate Yaya and put the whole blame on
Njie-Saidy.

I respectfully counsel people to take Jobe's propaganda for what it is
worth. Double talk from a hypocrite that is desperately trying to justify
why he would support a child murderer.

Moving to Jobe's other statements. Can we reconcile what Jobe is saying
today to what he said yesterday? Yesterday Jobe did not think it was a good
idea to prosecute people for the most heinous crime ever committed in the
country. Today, when Saul Khan put him on the spot, he suddenly had a change
of heart because he happened to listen to some BBC interview on crime,
punishment and reconciliation. I would like to inform Jobe that months ago,
Kabir Njie forwarded us an article from some human rights worker in Senegal
making the same statements in relation to Habre's crimes in Chad. He did not
need to wait for a BBC interview one year after the fact to realize that
reconciliation cannot happen where impunity and 'running away from
responsibility' thrived. So, as I understand it now, Jobe does NOT subscribe
to the idea of a "blanket amnesty". Now he is conceding that people need to
take responsibility and some need to be punished. When you read Jobe's two
statements as highlighted above, a picture begins to emerge. The new
scenario would allow for the prosecution of criminals so long as Yaya is
left off the hook. You see how crafty these people are? What they give you
with one hand, they take away with another. 'We will take responsibility so
long as we can use the Collective Responsibility Doctrine to shift blame to
Njie-Saidy. This is why I said the woman should watch her back. I saw Joseph
Joof's perverse reasoning all over Jobe's ideas.

About the elections Jobe talked about in his piece, I will not even respond
to that. Partly because I do not want to shift the attention away from our
children today and secondly because I gave Jobe several occasions in the
past to engage me directly on that topic and he ran away from the fight. I
will say this much though: my beef with Jobe did not start because of his
views about the by-elections. If you think back to when Jobe surfaced on G_L
with his garbage about government 'projects' and 'showing the different side
of the information Ebrima's Sources were giving us', you will realize that
it was around the Hajj Season and I was not participating on debates on G_L.
I only had an opportunity to engage Jobe when I got back online. What I
tried to do, was challenge his premise that it is all right for a child
murderer to lead us. That is the beef I have with Jobe. He does not seem to
realize that for some of us, Yaya has forfeited his right to lead. Anybody
that helps Yaya to perpetuate himself is declaring war on people like me. I
will challenge any story they want to peddle here in order to cast Yaya in a
good light and win him votes and support. Jobe is trying to paint me as a
die-heart UDP supporter that is upset with him because he attempted to mock
the UDP. This childish attempt is not going to force me to dish the UDP in
order to declare my independence. The archives speak for themselves. I am
comfortable with myself and my beliefs. I care less what people like Jobe
think of me. I do not suffer from inferiority complex. Jobe cannot whine his
way our of this. The only way out for him is to stop trying to perpetuate
Yaya. If he continues to come here to support a child murderer, he will hear
from me.

Thanks again Hamjatta for cornering Jobe and thanks to Saul for dealing him
the blow you just did.
KB



>From: saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: April 10/11, 2000 Massacre ---- Case Against Yaya
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 18:02:16 -0000
>
>Kebba Jobe, or any of Five Names,
>
>Since you've made "national reconciliation" an issue, let's take a second
>look. It's universally recognized that for there to be genuine
>reconciliation, perpetrators of crimes must own up to their acts and
>express
>remorse to their victims. To this point, your govt has refused to take
>responsibility for the crimes for which you're seeking national
>reconciliation. Many of us find that to be very strange. Now, given that
>you've metamorphosed from being "a concerned civil servant" to being the
>APRC's main mouth-piece on G-L, could you at least venture to tell us who
>ordered the shooting of the kids. I believe all fair-minded people will
>recognize that revelation to be a great starting point for a much needed
>"national reconciliation." Please let's stick to the facts: "truth" and
>"fairness" is what we all want. Isn't it?
>
>Saul.
>
>
>
>
>>Here we go again. Playing victim again. The analogy I gave about Tombong
>>is
>>quite apt. You accuse me of wanting to scavenge (get a government job)
>>after
>>
>
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