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G-lers,
l would like to echoe Katim in expressing sincere thanks to my former
neighbour and buddy, Mr Anthony Loum, for having set up hosting services for
G-L at the Univ. of Washington for the past years. His contribution for
making it possible for Gambians and friends of Gambia all over the globe to
share this "Bantaba" will go down in history as one of the very positive
things that will make a great contribution to our future. It was and remains
an enabler  for  us to share our thoughts and ideas, and this can only be a
building block to better interaction between us. Our gratitude also goes to
Dr Katim Touray for his untiring efforts in regards to this list, as well as
all the list managers who work behind the scenes to bring us what we may be
tempted to take for granted, but which nevertheless commands their time and
effort. A huge thank you to all of you. We appreciate what you do every
single day, and are thankful for it. May Allah bless all of you, and reward
you with much more than you have given, and continue to give.

Sincerely
Jabou Joh
 Hi folks,

 I'm writing this one on the fly, and ready to move on to other things.  So
I'm
 going to be brief, and additional questions will have to be dealt with as
time
 goes by.  This e-mail is, of course, prompted by our move of to new server
for
 Gambia-L, namely the Listserv server at St. Johns University in New York, NY,
 USA. So let me try to address a few issues.

 1.  We are moving to the St. Johns server not because of my whim, but because
 of the fact that a decision has been reached on an issue that was being
 discussed in private by Gambia-L managers anyway.  I tried to find my copies
of
 correspondence between us to the effect that Anthony Loum, under whose
auspices
 Gambia-L was hosted at the University of Washington, Seattle, (UW) was not
 comfortable with the continued hosting of Gambia-L by his UW.  Other list
 managers will recall that at that time, I suggested St. Johns which also
hosts
 the African Association of Madison list (which I help manage), but the
 procedure I suggested was turned down because it was too cumbersome.

 It happened that we've had the problem and threat of Matarr Njie in the past
 few weeks, as well as a threat by Sedat Kanyi to have UW shut down Gambia-L,
 and so in a way these factors made it imperative that we move the list.  Not
 because I personally took any of their threats seriously, but because it will
 never be justifiable to put anybody's livelihood at risk just to host
Gambia-L.
  Mr. Loum had mentioned to us in private, well before the above problems
 happened, that UW was re-assessing the use of their e-mail facilities, and so
 would like that we move the list.  There is at least one person on this list
 that I wrote in private to ask if he could help find a host for Gambia-L.

 So it was against this background that I got an e-mail message from Tony last
 Monday night (May 17) about re-starting efforts to find Gambia-L a new host.
 I
 sent an e-mail that night to the administrator at St. Johns, re-expressing
 interest in hosting Gambia-L there.  I got an e-mail from him yesterday,
 Tuesday (May 18), indicating that he had set Gambia-L up for me.  I was going
 to move everyone over to the St. Johns server last night (Tuesday), but ran
 into some problems which have been resolved, and so here we are now on the
St.
 Johns server.

 I would like to, at this point, express my sincere gratitude to Anthony Loum
 for being such a gracious and understanding sponsor of Gambia-L's stay on the
 UW servers.  It was on Jan. 31, 1996 that Gambia-L went live on the UW
server,
 and since then, there have been a total of 17,478 postings (as of tonight
May,
 19, 1999 at 9:39 PM Central Time, US).  I agree some of those might have been
 junk, "please unsubscribe me!" stuff, but I'm sure you'll agree that there
have
 been a few gems in there.  And for that we have Tony to be eternally grateful
 to.  Please join me in expressing our sincere appreciation to Tony for his
 efforts, despite at times very difficult circumstances, to do the best for
The
 Gambia, and indeed humanity at large.

 2.  What's changed?  Not much.  True, we are changing from ListProc to
 Listserve in moving from UW to St. Johns Univ.  However, on the whole, it's
all
 for the better simply because Listserve is much more powerful than ListProc.
 Indeed the name "Listserve" has become synonymous with mailing list servers,
 just as "Xerox" has become common name for photocopying documents!

 From a practical perspective, I'd like to point out the following:

 a) all subscribers have been moved to St. Johns.  Some have requested a
change
 of address, but I haven't gotten to those yet.  Maybe in the next few days.

 b) the new address is:

         [log in to unmask]

 c)  the managers are still the same:

 [log in to unmask] Momodou Camara
 [log in to unmask] Momodou Camara
 [log in to unmask] Latjor Ndow
 [log in to unmask] Sarian Loum
 [log in to unmask] Dr. Amadou Janneh
 [log in to unmask] Tony Loum

 and myself:  [log in to unmask]

 d) if you were subscribed to the digest version of the list, you should send
 the command:
         set gambia-l digest
 to:
         [log in to unmask]

 e) to unsubscribe, you should send the command:
         unsubscribe gambia-l
 to:
         [log in to unmask]

 f)Listserve also allows us to set up different threads or topics of
discussion.
   For example, we can have threads on education, health, or tourism, and one
 can subscribe to one or more of these threads to receive only postings
dealing
 with these issues.  This however, requires more than basic configuration,
and I
 simply don't have the time to get to it now.  Let's walk first, ...

 g) Gambia-L will be a lot easier to manage now.  Error-messages will be
handled
 automatically, and I've configured the server to autodelete problem
addresses.
 This should only affect those with troublesome mail servers, and should not
be
 a problem for regular folk.  Let me know if you have serious problems getting
 mail from Gambia-L.

 h) I have re-configured Gambia-L at UW to reject postings from all except
list
 owners, myself and Tony.  This is because I'll be writing to the UW contact
 person for Gambia-L to have them delete the list as soon as possible.  I will
 ask that they save archives of postings to the list, and I'll pick them up
 later on the Net.

 i) Gambia-L postings are being archived on the St. Johns server on a monthly
 basis.  This is because of the fact that the plan is to move the list, again
 (!), as soon as I can get a home for it on the Fana Fana Web site.  Speaking
of
 which, the Gambia-L gateway at http://fanafana.com/gambia-l functions will
not
 work shortly simply because the Gambia-L it points to will no longer exist at
 UW.  I'll be fixing that shortly, so don't use it.

 3)  Rules:  I suppose we've had our lessons!  I will be drafting a few
 guidelines for Gambia-L at St. Johns and will post them on the list.  Be
 assured that we are not going to tolerate any insults, foul language, and
 bad-mouthing on the list again.  And this will not be a matter for debate
 either, you either take it or leave it.


 4) I will be contacting the list managers about how to go about managing the
 list.  I hope to do this shortly.

 5) Owners of the following addresses need to send in their full names:

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 6)  I guess that's about all for now.  I will continue work on fine-tuning
 Gambia-L at St. Johns in the next few days, or weeks, but anything that
affects
 the way you interact with the list will be known to you.

 Have a great weekend, and best wishes.

 Katim

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