Sister Jabou
I promise i will not discuss this topic again but it doesnt mean that i will
discuss other topics concerning Ebou.
Matarr
>From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: On the issue of Ebou Jallow's attacks/Matarr
>Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:37:29 EDT
>
>Matarr,
>
>Thanks, and i agree. Ebou has done his share of attacking people, and he
>started the attack on Halifa.
>I hope that all of us will stick to the issues and lay off the personal
>attacks.
>
>Jabou Joh
>
>In a message dated 10/10/03 10:17:17 AM Central Daylight Time,
>[log in to unmask] writes:>
> >
> > Sister Jabou
> > I quite agree with you that we should by all means try to keep away from
> > personal attacks.
> > It was Ebou who started the whole thing by attacking Halifa inorder to
> > defend his boss (jammeh).
> > Halifa did not attack Or say nasty things about Ebous mother, he was
>just
> > trying to warn Ebou that he should be the last person to attack him an
> > dthis has been blown out of proportion.
> > Ebou, now you are crying foul but what about the times when you were
> > literary insulting people on the Gambia post and L. You see when you
>live in
> > a glass house you shouldnt throw stones.
> >
> > No hard feelings.
> > Matarr
> >
> >
> > >From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: On the issue of Ebou Jallow's late mom
> > >Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:22:43 EDT
> > >
> > >In a message dated 10/7/03 5:05:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > >[log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Don't tell me you do not
> > > > want to visit your mothers grave (rest in peace)?
> > >
> > >At the risk of being labelled with all sorts of labels, this needs to
>be
> > >said
> > >and I am going to say it because we have to be able to step back and
>view
> > >situations with a clear head and address the issues that need to be
> > >addressed
> > >just because that is the right thing to do; and because we cannot
>afford to
> > >loose
> > >sight of the real issues in any discussion or we will not get anywhere.
> > >
> > >People, I would like to appeal to all of you who have made mention of
>the
> > >above topic to please not include this topic in the discussions
>anymore. I
> > >should
> > >think that a topic like this has no place in our discussions regarding
>the
> > >situation at home. Every time I hear this mentioned, my heart bleeds,
>why?
> > >because I would like to believe that we are a people driven by decency
>and
> > >the
> > >conviction to institute a system of government that ensures the
>protection
> > >of
> > >rights, and that is why we are out here registering our protest.
>Therefore,
> > >there
> > >is no place in such an endeavour to taunt people regarding the death of
>a
> > >loved one, otherwise, we are no better than the brutal regime that is
> > >making life
> > >miserable for our people.
> > >
> > >All of us have lost loved ones who have absolutely nothing to do with
>this
> > >regime or the crimes perpetrated by their offspring or relatives. They
> > >deserve
> > >to be accorded the respect due to them even in death regardless of
>what
> > >their
> > >relatives may be accused of.
> > >If we cannot separate the issue of an individual's guilt or innocence
>and
> > >the
> > >protection of rights under a just system, then we have missed the point
> > >entirely.
> > >
> > >The constitution of the Unied States surpasses any other in the
>protection
> > >of
> > >the human rights of the individual and those who fight to protect it,
>be
> > >they
> > >individuals, lawyers or judges are the reason it stays intact for the
> > >benefit
> > >of all. Under this system, the issue between the persons' guilt or
> > >innocence
> > >and his rights under the system are never compromised no matter what
>they
> > >are
> > >accused of or even sharged with, and that is why it can continue to be
>a
> > >viable system. The guardians of the system know that they cannot afford
>to
> > >loose
> > >sight of the fact that if a person's guilt or innocence becomes
> > >personalized by
> > >the guardians of the system, then that can compromises not only the
> > >accused
> > >person's rights but that of the entire citizenry under teh same system.
> > >It is fine line to walk, but walk it we must so that we do not
>ourselves
> > >turn
> > >into the dictators we are supposedly fighting. We cannot afford to be
> > >selective in the administration of justice and the protection of the
>human
> > >rights of
> > >the individual at any point in time, no matter how angry we are at that
> > >person.
> > >
> > >We have to remember that as citizens who stand up for justice and who
> > >purport
> > >to speak on behalf of the people, we have to be clear headed enough so
>that
> > >our fight does not become personal, but rather an attempt to insitute a
> > >just
> > >system. A just system ensures the rights of all people, and it is the
>laws
> > >we
> > >institute in such a system, and not individuals that determines the
> > >appropriate
> > >punishment for all crimes against the state or any member of the
>society,
> > >and
> > >a court of law is the venue for such decisions. Therefore, even the
> > >utterance
> > >of words that imply the violation of the rights of the individual is
> > >irresponsible and dangerous.
> > >One of the main issues we have with the APRC regime is that they are
>not
> > >operating within the law, and a society where people threaten to take
>the
> > >law into
> > >their own hands becomes a promise of another dictatorship.
> > >
> > >In the U.S, even the most despicable criminals are accorded their day
>in
> > >court, and all the rights guaranteed to them under the constitution. If
> > >they
> > >cannot afford a lawyer, one is appointed for them and paid for by the
> > >state. The
> > >courts then decide the guilt and innocence of that person and the
> > >appropriate
> > >punishment is handed down. Even if someone kills your family member,
>you
> > >cannot
> > >shoot him or even threaten ot do so in public. This is so that
>individuals
> > >do
> > >not take the law into their one hands and thereby compromise the
>protection
> > >it
> > >accords to all.
> > >
> > >This system of laws that protect our rights is what is being
>compromised
> > >by
> > >the APRC regime, and this is what we are fighting against. In our fight
> to
> > >istitute a fair and just system, we must never forget that at no point
>in
> > >time
> > >can we threaten to abbrogate the rights of even someone who is alleged
>to
> > >have
> > >committed crimes against us. We simply cannot afford such short
> > >sightedness.
> > >
> > >If we start sounding like the APRC regime who think they are a law unto
> > >themselves, this is a frightening prospect because then one is likely
>to
> > >believe
> > >that given the opportunity to hold positions of power, such persons
>will
> > >see
> > >themselves as a law unto themselves, and this is the direct opposite of
> > >what I
> > >assume we are working to accomplish.
> > >
> > >Let us take the issue of Ebou Jallow not being able to go home and
>disect
> > >that point. Why is he not able to go home? Supposedly because the APRC
> > >regime
> > >will arrest or kill him, or do any number of things to him. Why?
>perhaps
> > >because
> > >he allegedly took three million dollars, but the money was alleged to
>be
> > >put
> > >into an illegal account for the regime. If all of that should prove
>true,
> > >then
> > >is it not a case of one of them trying to outsmart the other in an
>attempt
> > >to
> > >defraud the Gambian people? If we taunt one of them for not being able
>to
> > >go
> > >home, are we not cheering the others in their attempt to silence
>someone
> > >who
> > >may be guilty of the same crime as those hunting for him are?
> > >
> > >Let us also take the issue of people not being able to go home. I put
>it to
> > >you that there are many others whom the APRC regime would like to lay
>their
> > >hands on, and their only crime is that they have consistently spoken
>out
> > >against
> > >the injustices metted out to our people by this regime. If any
>outspoken
> > >person goes home, they will probably meet the same fate Ebou Jallow
>would
> > >at the
> > >hands of the regime.
> > >If we have a country where any citizen fears going home, that is a
>problem
> > >for all of us.
> > >
> > >Therefore people, these are points that should make it abundantly clear
>to
> > >all of us that we cannot afford to be selective when it comes to the
> > >protection
> > >of the rights of any Gambian, be they alleged criminals or otherwise.
> > >Again, I repeat that what we need to focus on is the establishment of a
> > >constitution that protects the rights of all so that our own will never
>be
> > >compromised, and to have people in positions of leadership who will not
> > >loose sight of
> > >the important issue of never personalizing any issues such that we
> > >jeopadize
> > >that very system.
> > >
> > >Jabou Joh
> > >
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