Kebba

Well said!

With due respect I think we will have to deal with Mr
Jobe first "the first culprit" before proceeding with
Mr Jeng.

These chaps are ready to come out with flimsy facts
for justifying Yahya's reign of terror. It appears
they are more than happy to tolerate Yahya even if he
kills innocent people as long as projects like
"Schools without books or better teachers for the
students are built", roads, hospitals, and an Arch at
Independence Drive are built.

With this in mind I have to ask Mr. Kebba Jobe one
more question;

Am I therefore right to say that you will support any
leader that kills its own people as so long as there
are dubious/shortsighted projects in place.

If Mr Jobe's answer is in the negative then surely why
is he supporting APRC.

We agree that PPP was corrupt, but should we
substitute it for another corrupt government. To quote
a phrase from Arch Bishop Desmond Tutu " I did not
fight against tyranny only for it to be substituted by
another form of tyranny. The APRC has certainly
exceeded the rate of corruption experience under the
PPP regime. Have a look at the following episodes

(1) The Ebou Jallow Saga

(2) The Crude OIL Saga

(3) The Commission of Inquiry into the activities of
Gamtel- In fact Bakary Njie is still in power despite
a recommendation from the commission that he should be
retired and should also pay D9million

(4) The Groundnut Crisis- Have all farmers being able
to sell their nuts

(5) The Nawec Crisis- the reasons for Mr Conteh's
dismissal

(6) The Auditor General's Report into the activities
of the Municipal Council.

(7) The Commission of inquiry into the activities of
the Royal Victoria Hospital.

This is just some few examples of corruption taken
place under APRC, the party that originally came to
power to end corruption and give Gambians a new lease
of life. The APRC has certainly failed in its crusade
against corruption and its is awaiting time for
dethronement through the ballot box.

Having mentioned all these reasons its time that Mr
Jobe reason out and accept that the APRC has failed
the Gambian and could be replaced by any of the three
opposition parties.


On that I say lets continue the struggle with a new
slogan: "Operation Come October Gambia will be free"

Best Wishes

Sanusi

--- Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >
Jeng, I wonder when you will come out of your closet
> and admit that you are
> a Yaya supporter. No one will kill you. Unlike Yaya,
> we in the Opposition do
> not hold a gun to people's head forcing them to
> believe in garbage. Why
> don't you quit being a hypocrite and show your true
> colors and address
> people directly?
>
> I will address your gibberish in chronological
> order, so excuse me if I
> sound a little disjointed. You were all over the
> place. First of all, I do
> not know where you took a poll and determined that
> "there are many on this
> so-called anti-Jammeh forum who seem to be nodding
> their heads in agreement
> to some of your [Kebba Jobe's] points". Emphasis
> mine. How many G_L
> subscribers did you see nodding their heads? Granted
> this might be a figure
> of speech. The best way to determine whether 'many'
> in this forum are in
> agreement with Jobe, is to check the archives to see
> how many people wrote
> to support Jobe's position. By my counting, you are
> the only one so far that
> seem to think that Yaya's 'projects' is a suitable
> substitute for the lives
> of our children. That is Jobe's premise; otherwise
> why would he want to
> perpetuate a child murderer and a thieve? So, please
> give us the figures
> about Jobe's and your support on this forum.
>
> I do not pretend to speak for Saul Khan, but I will
> say this. According to
> my reading, Saul did not say that Jobe was credible
> per se. What Saul said
> was that Jobe, unlike Essa Sey, was at least putting
> his case across in
> coherent language. That is very far from saying that
> Jobe is credible or his
> arguments are honest and sensible. According to my
> dictionary, 'credible'
> means: capable of being believed; deserving
> confidence. Is this what you
> think Saul was saying? Again, I don't speak for
> Saul, but I believe Saul is
> not naïve to believe Jobe when Jobe says that he
> supports Yaya because of
> these 'projects'. We all know that Jobe's loyalty is
> motivated by greed,
> cowardice and ignorance. His loyalty has nothing to
> do with these
> 'projects'. Would Jobe substitute these 'projects'
> for his children? That is
> exactly what Jobe was saying when he said that he
> supports Yaya despite the
> atrocities committed against our people.
>
> You also said that "the lamest arguments put forward
> is to call these
> projects stolen Jawara projects, or even to
> disingenuously down play the
> significance of these projects". Why did you not
> have the guts to address me
> directly when I said that these were stolen projects
> from the Jawara regime?
> If the argument is lame, why didn't you or Jobe
> debunk the argument by
> showing that these were not stolen projects? Are you
> trying to say that the
> AFPRC/APRC invented these projects? Explain why you
> think the argument is
> lame. This argument goes to the heart of APRC's
> dishonest claim for the
> credit of recent developments in Gambia. You people
> want to pretend that you
> are Gambia's saviors. Yaya is a genius that thought
> about all these projects
> and got money from God to finance the projects. You
> think it is 'lame' to
> debunk that myth? Well, tell us why it is 'lame'.
> Tell us what Yaya's input
> is in these 'projects'. Remember that Yaya and all
> the civil servants
> working for him were educated by the PPP. Gambia did
> not start in the past
> seven years.
>
> Can you also enlighten us again about the reason
> AFPRC stole power from a
> democratically elected government. I hope you are
> right that that is the
> best argument APRC has. Because if that is the case,
> the Opposition is
> guaranteed a sure victory in October. In case you
> did not notice, Yaya is
> not running against PPP. You guys can dwell all you
> want in the past. That
> will not change the facts as they unfold during
> Yaya's tenure. You spoke
> about lame arguments. Is it logical to you that APRC
> open a debate on
> corruption of the Jawara regime? That was one of the
> claimed reasons for the
> coup. Yaya is lot more corrupt than Jawara. In less
> than seven years, he
> stole more from our people than the whole Jawara
> regime stole in thirty
> years. Let us talk about corruption.
>
> Does it also make sense to you if your side bring up
> the issue of nepotism;
> another claimed reason for the coup? Tell us what
> Ousman Badjie, Famara
> Jatta, Sankung Badjie, Babucarr Jatta, John Bojang,
> Susan Waffa have in
> common.
>
> Does it also make sense for the APRC supporters to
> talk about development of
> our people when their own statistics show that
> Gambians have grown poorer
> under Yaya's watch? I think you are confused.
>
> It is insulting to certain Opposition members for
> characters like you to
> pretend that you are part of the Opposition. Keep
> convincing yourself. We
> know better. In light of Yaya's record, Jawara's
> record is very defensible.
> I am even surprised that we do not have real PPP
> people coming out here to
> challenge the low-lives that stole power from them
> and always distort their
> record. Because I am and was not a PPP supporter, I
> would have preferred for
> the PPP to come out and fight their own battle. But
> if we do not have that,
> I will not stand by and watch vermin like you lie
> about the PPP record in
> order to perpetuate Yaya. What did people defend
> about the PPP record that
> is indefensible? Why do you keep throwing out
> rhetoric you cannot back up?
> Why don't you debunk specifics I have defended on
> the PPP record?
>
> I will take this opportunity to respectfully appeal
> to the PPP people to
> come out and take on the Musa Jengs and the Kebba
> Jobes of this world.
> Rather than attacking me both on G_L and outside G_L
> for describing PPP
> militants as meek for not fighting Decree 89 in a
> certain way; rather than
> PPP people attacking Ebou Colly behind the scenes
> for saying some
> self-evident truths about the Jawara regime, PPP
> people should come out and
> defend their record and their integrity. Me and
> Colly are not the enemy of
> PPP. The enemies are the low-lives that stole power
> from PPP and the vermin
> that peddle lies about the PPP record in order to
> perpetuate Yaya.
>
> As I said, the PPP record is defensible. Certainly
> lot more defensible than
> the AFPRC/APRC record. Musa Jeng will just be
> exhibiting his hypocrisy if he
> abuses a government that schooled him and gave him a
> job that was taken away
> from him by Yaya and his cohorts. The man will just
> be exhibiting his
> foolishness if he supports a government that forced
> him to become an
> economic refugee after he had decided to go home for
> good and was provided
> with a conducive environment by the PPP; an
> environment where he had a job
> and was free to earn a decent living and build up a
> family. If he wants to
> show ingratitude to PPP and worship APRC that
> tormented him, PPP should not
> allow Jeng to do so at their expense. PPP should
> defend itself from the
> Jengs of this world.
>
> PPP should not be afraid that Yaya and his cohorts
> will accuse them of
> corruption or nepotism. As pointed out earlier,
> these vices are more rife in
> our society nowadays. How can Yaya accuse OJ of
> corruption? OJ can just
> point out that he lived at his father's home with
> his whole family for
> several years he was a minister. Yaya on the other
> hand
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