Again, no flowery language will get you off the hook.  Yero, an independent 
journalist, was there and you heard what he observed.  You checked your 
voice mail, was it my voice that you heard?How the hell did I know you said 
that if you did not talk to me?  Just think about it.  No, you Karamba have 
a hand in this document and we are going to get to the bottom of this.  
Where is your partner in crime, Sahou Mballow, when we need him?  Your role 
was to put it out there and ours to take you to task.  Yes, call me all 
kinds of names, but the fact remains, you have not cleared the air.  At the 
very least, you can just state for the record that this report was not 
plagiarized and we will let the facts speak for themselves.  However, do not 
be mistaken to think you can weasel your way out without accepting or 
denying responsibility.  We may sound dumb to you, but we ain't stupid.

You could have said what you said below in just a few sentences, for you 
still are not denying or confirming the allegation.  Also, to claim that you 
have the right to adopt what ever is neither here nor there, because that is 
not the issue.  Is this the product of the UDP or someone else's?  If it is 
the product of the UDP, then just state that and we call it a day and I 
shall personally apologize to you and anyone harmed.  If this is not the 
product of the UDP, then why did you present it as such?  What stopped you 
from giving credit to the authors?  You and I know that is intellectual 
dishonesty.  Who tampered with the document, Karamba, Saihou, or the UDP?  
These and other questions your fellow Gambians want to know.  We are 
waiting.

Do me a favor, stop hiding behind Ous Conteh, he has nothing to do with the 
authentication of this document and no amount of mentioning him will excuse 
you.  The facts are going to dictate this journey.

Chi Jaama

Joe


>From: karamba touray <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [>-<] The Document
>Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:11:03 -0700 (PDT)
>
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>
>Folks,
>       the document that was sent over to the Chicago
>meeting is the same exact document Saihou Mballow
>released a little over week ago. It is a policy
>document released by the the UDP/NRP/PDGP. I forwarded
>it to Ousman Conteh who contacted me on behalf of
>their organisation on Friday afternoon. He called me
>saturday morning and we spoke for about a minute and I
>told  him the document was a lengthy 30 pages and that
>he may want to tell those members of their audience
>interested in reading it to try doing so online. That
>was the begining and end of my conversation with Ous
>Conteh.He did not raise a question about the document
>neither did he tell me anyoneelse did at the meeting
>or afterwards. Infact I spoke to Ous Conteh last night
>having read Joe's account  and he was outraged that
>Joe would concoct such a silly story about how I said
>I purportedly spent all night summarising the said
>document or that they had tried to'confront' me at
>their meeting and I was avoiding their calls. Absolute
>lies and for what? I am not in the business of
>claiming authorship or assuming the role of a
>spokesman for UDP/NRP/PDGP. I support them in my
>capacity as an interested Gambian citizen. If they put
>out a document in their quest to seek public office ,
>citizens such as yourself can take it upon yourself to
>analyse the document, make up your own minds regarding
>the methodology of it's production, it's merits or
>even relevance.Whatever conclusions emanate from that
>exercise is worthy of the kind of serious deliberation
>citizens undertake in a participatory democracy. Why
>should our discourse be tinged with the kind of
>accusatory disposition routinely manifested by people
>on issue after issue. Afterall the same organisation
>invited Ousainou Darboe last year and he obliged by
>interrupting personal business that brought him here
>and flew from Seattle to address them in Chicago. This
>year because Joe Sambou does not like the decisions he
>made, he will personally constitute an academic review
>panel to reject a document he was invited to submit
>and proceed to lie about the whole episode. Whoever
>heard of a community organisation that invites a cross
>section of society abrogating for itself the right to
>decide if submittalls that are voluntarily sought and
>provided meet some tortured and warped standard.It is
>a notch below facism. Those of you who have questions
>regarding the production methodology, look into it and
>if you have cause for criticism by all means go ahead.
>It is all part the process and I fully recognise your
>right to that.To those of you who believe you have
>stumbled upon something you can precitipate a scandal
>from I say good luck because I know you will need it.
>Some of you are just pathetic, petty and have a made a
>speciality in diviancy. Ndeysan
>Karamba
>
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