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Brother Oko Drammeh,
 
Great ideas and thank you for elaborating on the topic. I have no  doubt that 
these are the ways we can help our national economy, alleviate  poverty for 
our people and create jobs. We must develop systems that will solve  our 
problems in the long run as opposed to just  postponing them or making them worse by 
adopting temporary solutions  that will just devastate our country even more.
 
Jabou Joh
 
In a message dated 9/15/2006 8:12:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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Agriculture is a Business 
called Agri-business otherwise know  as
Enterprenuerial Agriculture.

Read on: This subject cannot take  two lines, sorry! that is why it is a long 
text but without touching these  areas the coming comments and remarks will 
be mostly geared towards the things  that you did not say. 



The level of Consciousness
The  election time is a call, a call for Gambian people to come out to unite, 
to  recognise their rights, their heritage, to build a sense of solidarity in 
one  common goal. To begin to define their goals, our country, our leaders 
and to  define our organisations and the conscience of our leadership. Election 
time  is a call to reject bogus values in our soceity. Every Vote goes down a 
long  way.

The task to Urbanisation
Hiding the pain of miseducation, to  others, the burning issues are only a 
shadow. After years of humilation and  bad conscience, powerless and through 
schattered history and powerlessness, it  is not easy to rise from the offence. 

The New century business trends:  
The Gambia is not an agriculture, it is the Portuguses who brought in the  
peanuts. It is not ours. But like my friend Abou, put it "with only 4 months  of 
rain and the soil is not too fertile"

Comments/ Mr. Mballow. The  hoe, the backing tool that can't assist the 
farmer to make a living. This is  correct

Ecomonic growth stimulation
We should look into Business of  raw material processing., products made in 
home based business, green house  vegetables that The Gambia do not 
produce.There should be Funding for direct  marketing options, value-added and 
processing, organic marketing and  labelling,

The new century
It is about trade secrets and devices and  complimenting information which 
given the opportunity to obtain an advantage  over who do not know how to use 
it.No matter what you do and what you grow you  will need to sell inordser to 
make profitif you are going tom stay in  business.
You need resources that will offer advice on deversity developing  new 
markets and adding value to farm products to increase income and to  support e.g., 
Sustainable: Multi corp farming, organic herbs, Organic farming  crops, farm 
energy compost water management. Freezing and foos caning and  education lead to 
succesfull sustainability. 


The creation of  Business is the livelihood for any viable economy/ Jabou
Here we need  business skills for the creation of any business and ecomonic 
growth  stimulation.You need the system, approaches associated to it., appling 
the  principles, holistic managemet, farm landscaping plant and animal  
prpduction,commercial fishinfg and sea food production culture to sustain  
agriculture.servicing the global market on advice and service that aviable for  your 
country and for the world.

The US formula for supporting small  business by assisting grants to 
enterprenuers, priority in assisting  enterprenuers and recycling the wealth into the 
community is an investment  that will pay off. This is the essence of capital.

Block-Grants  Financial assistance for starters in the rural areas
For direct farm  marketing, our farms must be included in guides to 
agricultural producers and  expositions in agriculturals fairs and in domistic and 
international marketing  assistance for the following: Here there is a need for  
education.
Investment plan
Estate plan
Succession plan
Retirement  plan

This will bring in general economic benefit to the local  communities and 
also increase spending in Nature-Based travel

1.Agro  Tourism-  Farmland viablity plan, opportunity for developing this 
area by  small agricultural farming.

2.Eco Tourism- A network of cooperation  with farmers worldwide.

3.Nature Tourism -Conservation of the  enviroment,strenghting an objective 
for sustainable of tourism. Forestry,  gardening, irrigration and landscaping.

4.Cultural heritage  Tourism-  Social cultural values,opportunity for local 
land  owners.

Fomular can provide a change
The Asian tigers are well  supported when they enter a negotiation, they have 
a diplomatic fomula aviable  to them. China made France it touchstone for the 
Europeaon Union as a whole  which largely become china's largest trading 
partner in the EU. They have  already secure an opportunity for the thousands of 
business angels and money  gurus into Europe with massive gains.


Comments: A.Bobb/ In  conclusion, The War in Casammance is getting nearner. I 
lived in Liberia,  Serirra Leone and IIvory Coast. I saw how it unfolded. It 
will come over to  The Gambia weather we like it or not.This is a thriving 
business that the  livihood of millions depends on both at home and abroad.They 
have no regard  for human suffering and humanlife.

Good order is the Foundation in all  things

OOOopsss!-Typos if any........Excuse me please !

Oko  Drammeh
www.okodrammeh.com



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Malanding,

agreed that few Gambians depend entirely on farming and  having a hard time  
of it I might add as we all know. I was not  arguing against making education 
 
more available and affordable (how  can anyone argue against that?) but 
rather 
to  the suggestion to  invest in educating Gambians and then farming them  
out 
to other  countries in exchange for remittances with all the long term  
cultural  
and economic ramifications that will have and those people are  likely  not 
to 
return home.

This is why the need to look at  some of the alternate solutions I mentioned  
will be important.
We  also have to dispel the notion that educated people cannot be farmers,   
farming is not limited to peanuts and small business ownership is  not  
limited 
to just owning a shop around the corner selling candy  and  candles. 
Educating people and then creating opportunities for  them by giving them  
the 
support and resources they need to create  different businesses and  
ultimately jobs is the solution. The  creation of businesses is the lifeblood 
of  any 
viable  economy.

Jabou Joh

In a message dated 9/13/2006 10:42:50 P.M.  Central Daylight Time,  
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Sister  Jabou and Joe,
Its good we are taking time  discussing this issue. Joe, just  a few 
stats. In 2003, about 45% of  economically active population reported  
being employed, 49% of these  are in agriculture and animal husbandry  
(Census 2003). In other  words no more than 25% of our economically  
active population really  work on the farm. During a recent visit to the  
village (Feb 2006) it  dawned on me that over 90% of my cohorts(Kafo)  
were either in Kombo  or outside the country. The figure is much higher  
for younger  people, many of whom leave the village as soon as they get  
to 9th  grade just to arrive in Kombo to realise that their only chance  
to a  living is to trek across the Sahara or hitch-hike on canoes to  
Spain  and Canary Islands.

Joe, few Gambians depend entirely on the   farming these days. Many would 
tell you they survive todays  challenges  because of remittance from 
family members who trekked or  hitch-hiked their  way to Europe and 
America. No wonder you still  find fathers  and  mothers selling the last 
cow/jewelry or  compound for their middle-school  dropout to risk 
everything  including their life to Europe or the US.   Some Baddibunka 
man  told me "in the past we travelled to Barra/Banjul or  Cassamance  
(smuggling) to make a living.We will go to Europe if we have  to." In  
sum, the drain will continue as long as it is the fastest way to a   
decent living. One that would help a Baddibunka man or a Sarahule  man  
(who can't read/ write their name) feed his family and   save enough  to 
become the new landlord  in the "Tubab  Banko".

Given the  above, the question  is how do we make the  most of our buck 
with all  the domestic and international   variables at play?  There is no  
doubt in my mind that the  farmer in Sare Mankamang Kunda would give up  
life on the farm for a  college degree for his child. And whether that  
child lives in Basse,  Banjul or Seatle matters very little in today's   
world.


Malanding




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>Malanding,
>
>While I agree with you  that   peanut farming is not the answer to our 
economic  
>woes and I certainly  do not  have the answers, but I am  just a little 
taken 
>aback by  your suggestion that we  train  people and then farm them out for  
>employment in the West. Isn't  that  worsening the brain drain  problem and 
what 
>about  developing the home front if we  invest in  educating our youth and  
then 
>sending them out to go work in  other   countries?
>
>I can assure you that if I was able to  find  opportunities at  home, I 
would 
>not have ventured elsewhere   and I have head this same sentiment  expressed 
by   
>many.
>
>Rather than framing out our youth to the West,  I  think  one area that the 
>economies of African countries  in  particular can be greatly  improved is 
if 
the  
>Western countries  like the U.S and U.K for example open up   trade and 
allow 
>African  goods to be exported to these countries  without any of  the 
current 

>restrictions and quotas that  result in imbalance of trade  against  Africa. 
Along  
>with that, rather than institutions like  the IMF and World  Bank  lining 
the 
>pockets of corrupt governments  on the  continent and sinking African  
countries 
>deeper and  deeper  into debt,  and if the intention is to help  Africa as  
they  
>claim, some of those funds can be used to make capital  available   to 
African 
>entrepreneurs to start businesses  and to encourage Africans  to buy  
African 
and 
>keep the  money at home and create jobs  locally. 
>
>As someone   involved in the import/export  business, it pains me daily when 
I  
>see that all  the commodities  we use on a daily basis in  Africa is 
imported 

>and even   when it comes to the  procurement of those commodities, the 
various  
>African   governments who place orders for these goods bypass  African  
companies 
>in the  business to utilize outside companies   mainly because they are 
looking 
>for  kickbacks in the   transaction. In the case of Gambia, the APRC have  
>essentially   taken this business from the small business  person and turned 
it into a  
>monopoly  for a select  few.
>
>If you look at the U.S  government, the Small  Business  Administration puts 
a 
>lot of  priority in  assisting entrepreneurs to set up  businesses, from   
>providing grants, low interest loans and free services to    prepare 
business 
plans and 
>free mentoring from retired executives  in  SCORE (  Service Corps of 
Retired 
>Executives)who  volunteer their  services through the SBA  all intended to  
>encourage those who are  so inclined to start small  businesses.  All of 
this 
because 
>they  realize the  impact that the creation of small  businesses has on the  
 
>economy from increasing tax revenue to the creation of    employment 
opportunities 
>for the general public. The U.S  government  also  provides many good 
incentives  
>to  small businesses if  they create jobs and  they also encourage  economic 
>growth in  rural areas by providing grants to   entrepreneurs through the 
community  
>development block grants  program if they  will start businesses  in these 
>rural  areas.
>
>Of course single crop  farming  is an evil  practice that was implemented by 
>colonial  governments who  basically  assigned each of the countries they  
>colonized  different crops to grow which they  could then buy and  import  
into the 
>Mother country namely the U.K in our case.   When  this system was devised,  
the 
>economic well being  of the  colonized  country did not feature in the 
decision.  
>Instead, it  was designed with the  intention to meet the  needs of the 
colonist  
>country who only cared that they  had  different providers for  what they 
needed 
>in their  own economies without worrying  about  the impact on the colonized 
 
>country then or in the long run.  
>
>In  terms  of agriculture, encouraging farmers to grow  multiple crops that 
can  
>both  be consumed at home as well as that  have a market  outside the 
country 
>and  working to help them gain  access  to these markets are other 
alternatives 
>that  can be   looked at. Getting more people interested in growing for  
example   
>vegetables and even organic herbs to name a  few, and to establish  
industries  
>such as canning and  freezing of vegetables and our  local fruits for export 
 
>etc,  and even tapping into the garment  industry in the  West by assisting  
>entrepreneurs to tap into this  market by  helping them to get manufacturing 
 
>contracts such as  are  offered to people in Asia are all things that our  
government   
>can give priority to in discussions with our development   partners  instead 
of 
>taking more loans that has no impact on  the  condition of  the  average 
citizen 
>in our  country or  elsewhere in Africa.
>
>Also working to   change the mind set  that imported items are better than 
>locally  made or locally   grown will go a long way in helping to keep money 
 
at home.
>
>I  believe that  there are so many ways  in which economic growth can be  
>stimulated in The Gambia   and the rest of Africa without  compromising our 
own growth  
>in other areas  and  instead of  training our youth and  then farming them 
out 
>with all the   accompanying  negative effects that may have in our overall   
 
>advancement.
>
>It is certainly an excellent topic  of  debate to see what  options we have 
>towards finding a  solution to  this dilemma.
>
>Jabou   Joh
>
>
>In a  message dated 9/13/2006 3:06:15 P.M.  Central Daylight  Time,  
>[log in to unmask]  writes:
>Malanding Jaiteh    wrote: If one is to go by the  NADD  
>Manifesto, The  Alliance's Document and the  
>statement by  SoS Touray that the APRC government  is to  provide farmers 
>500  tractors, looks like Gambians are poised for  the  same old, same old  
>- dump more of our hard borrowed  cash into the  agriculture  basket. By 
>now it should be  clear to all that the trouble in the   agricultural 
>sector  is more than just lack of funding. Few would  disagree  that  
>dispite two governments, aid from two Chinas plus  the West and  even  
>Iran, countless Departments of Agriculture,  projects  (Mixed Farming,  
>GARD, Jahali-Pacharr, LADEP)  institutions  and agencies (NARI, NADA),   
>and billion  of   Dalasi, the Gambia is neither self-sufficient in food    
>production nor has it increase earning from agriculture. Infact   the  
>contribution of agriculture to our national economy has  been  on the  
>decline while all these is going on. Given the  current  state of the  
>physical environment (climate and  water resources)  and economic  
>environment (globalization  and crop pricing), it is  hard to imagine what  
>agriculture  can do for the  Gambia.
>Given the above, I would argue that  it  is high time we  take a second 
>look at agriculture  (represented by the Axe  and  the Hoe on our coat of 
>arm) as  the engine to national  development  efforts since  independence.  
>I would go a step  further to ask the   incoming government (APRC, NADD or 
>The  Alliance) to make a   "put man on  the moon" kind of declaration on  
>education.  Cornerstone of this would be  immediate expansion of  the  
>University system and begining 2010 to train free  of   charge:
>
>2500 undergraduate degree and 100 graduates each  year  (2010 -  2015)
>5000 undergrads and 500 graduate degrees  ( after  2015)
>
>In  addition to free training, the  government should  negotiate with US, 
>EU and  other large  economies to help provide  these with temporary worker 
>visa.  In  return the students will be  required to pay through their  
>employers 10% of  their salary  towards re-embursing the  Gambia 
>government. The idea is to   borrow and invest in a  product more 
>marketable than  peanuts.
>
>Some   back of the envelop calculation:
>At  the end of the fourth year,  with 10000  students * $2,500  per year  
>tuition is  $25,000,000 (the cost of 500  tractors)
>suppose  50% of those  landed in a job in the UK or US ($35000) per  year.   
>Remittance at 10% of salary  is $3,500 * 5000 =  $17,500,000.  Nay  Bad! 
>and defintely more than what we get  from peanuts these  days.
>This  would not include money sent  home to family and  friend, on 
>vacations  (knowing you do  not have to worry about the  visa office), on a 
>retirement   house or two (every Gambians  wish).
>Infact we are losing that  many to  immigration as we speak.  Just that the 
>ones we are  losing now are less  prepared to  survive in Babilon, with  
>barely a driver license much more a   high school diploma to  compete the 
>skilled labor from Poland or    Mexico.
>
>Perhaps I am just dreaming. Certainly I do hope its  a  dream come  true.
>
>Malanding Jaiteh    
>
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