Mr. Bah,
       Please lets open a chapter in this forum.Your posting seems to add
more injuries to the wound alreadycaused.
       May ALLAH guides us all in the right path.AMEN!

ARONA


>From: alfusainey bah <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>Subject: Re: Another Ebou Taal's son reacts!
>Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 23:19:55 PDT
>
>Mr. Ceesay,
>      Mr Mambuna is right.  You should reply to private sent mails
>privately.  I don't blame Sal and his sister for reacting the way they did.
>Is there anyone in this L or anyone for that matter who would not react the
>same way if their parents are shamelessly written about?  You should not
>have attacked Sal the way you did here. I thought you said you have put
>this
>topic to rest.
>       By the way the other day one of your sources sent you a mail joking
>about APRC having no money in their coffers and that Tombong should look
>for
>funds to show European Soccer games on Gambian TV.  This is not a laughing
>matter.  People are suffering in The Gambia.  Students just got massacred,
>some are injured and still in hospital.  Ebrima, you know about the
>situation in Gambia more than any of us and you and your sources are more
>concerned about soccer games.
>     Please Mr Ceesay concentrate on the good job you are doing for all of
>us, exposing the bad guys and not get into stuff that would shatter all
>that
>good job.
>                                    Alfusainey Bah
>
>
>
>>From: Mambuna
>Bojang <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Another Ebou Taal's son reacts!
>>Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:35:54 -0400
>>
>>Mr. Ceesay,
>>
>>With all due respect, I don't think you should have sent this "personal
>>attack"
>>on the list. Salieu Taal wrote to you in private, and please next time
>>respond
>>to private mails privately. If you have a beef with Salieu or vise visa,
>>most of
>>us are not interested in it. While I do agree with many that you are doing
>>a
>>great job for disseminating insightful info. to this very list, I think
>>you
>>sometimes take things out of context. Both Fatou and Salieu Taal have
>>reasons to
>>attack you about their father - who on this list won't if you were in
>>their
>>shoes? They did it wisely in private and its amazing how you can turn that
>>around and expose their past on the "Bantaba". Its just ridiculous.
>>
>>By the way, I don't know any of the Taal family. I am just concern about
>>this
>>type of unwarranted personal attacks. It happens time and again on this
>>list,
>>and we have to be mindful. What goes around comes around.
>>
>>God Speed!
>>
>>Pa Mambuna
>>
>>
>>Ebrima Ceesay wrote:
>>
>> > Salieu Taal:
>> >
>> > Before I attempt to shatter your baseless allegations into pieces, I
>>must
>> > warn you now, that if this is the kind of shallow analysis, or flimsy
>> > writing you are going to be rendering us, especially with all the
>> > credentials added to your name, I'll have no choice except to ask
>>Buckingham
>> > University to revoke the Law Degree conferred on you forthwith. And I
>>mean
>> > it!
>> >
>> > Believe me, Sal, next time you send me this sort of woolly, quibble and
>> > muddled writing, I'll send a copy of it to Buckingham and ask them
>>whether
>> > this is the sort of narrow and smattering analysis/writing they are
>>teaching
>> > their students.
>> >
>> > I'll make it clear to the Rector at Buckingham University that if they
>>do
>> > not want their reputation as one of the leading Universities in England
>>to
>> > be tarnished, then they must ask you, Salieu, to go back to school and
>>do
>> > some serious reading!!
>> >
>> > Honestly, Salieu, being an alumnus of Buck - a very expensive private
>> > University for that matter - but, more significantly, given all the
>> > credentials/titles ( LLB; MA ) attached to your name, I had expected
>>you
>>to
>> > come up with something mature, tangible, ungarbled and
>>well-thought-out!
>> >
>> > But just like your Sister's trash the other day, yours too was childish
>>-
>> > very immature to say the least - empty and, of course, full of
>>distortions.
>> > What a shame! Sal, believe me, with all your bluff, I swear I CAN put
>>you in
>> > a classroom and teach you - having regard to the trash you just sent
>>me.
>> >
>> > How can a lawyer, or someone with a Law Degree like you, deliberately
>>tell
>> > lies or distort the facts? Who told you that I was the one who wrote
>>the
>> > Story about your Dad in the Daily Observer? Even your punk sister,
>>Fatou
>> > Taal, did know that "Alieu Badara Sowe had written the story" in
>>question,
>> > except that she, Fatou, had lied that I had asked Alieu Badara Sowe to
>>write
>> > the story.
>> >
>> > Anyway, let me now move to the issue. Salieu, among other things, you
>> > wrote..."Ebrima, I am shocked by your unwarranted and unsubstantiated
>>attack
>> > on my father...You ought not write any story on the basis of hearsay or
>> > undisclosed sources... My father never came to the UK neither was he
>> > declared Persona Non Grata...Your report was factually unsound and
>>inspired
>> > by spite"...
>> >
>> > Sal, these cited quotations from your e-mail, are very misleading and
>> > unfounded to say the least - wrongly insinuating that I wrote the Daily
>> > Observer story - and in fact if you do not withdraw them forthwith,
>>I'll
>> > write a pamphlet on your mediocrity and expose to the whole world, what
>>a
>> > man of straw you are!!!
>> >
>> > Let me now put things in perspective for you, in order to set the
>>record
>> > straight, but also to expose you as a buffoon and a crank!
>> >
>> > ** The first point to note, Salieu, is that the story on your Dad, or
>>in
>> > question, was written by Alieu Badara Sowe, who is an assistant editor
>>at
>> > the Observer and it was the very Observer he works for that carried the
>> > article.
>> >
>> > ** Question: How did I get into this whole saga?
>> >
>> > ** Now, Salieu, read this very carefully: One of my sources in Banjul
>>sent
>> > me an e-mail, where he had said that his Secretary had phoned his
>>mobile
>> > when he was at a meeting in Yundum, and told him that one of the
>>newspapers
>> > had a headline, saying that "Ebou Taal was declared Persona non Grata
>>by
>>the
>> > UK government."
>> >
>> > ** And later on, when my source finally got copies of his newspapers,
>>he
>> > sent me another e-mail - which I forwarded to the L - disclosing, first
>>of
>> > all, that it was the Observer that reported the Ebou Taal story, adding
>>also
>> > that according to the article, Ebou Taal apparently travelled to
>>London,
>>but
>> > was given 48 hours to leave the UK.
>> >
>> > ** Subsequently, the Daily Observer realised that the story was
>>unfounded
>> > and, as a result, they retracted it with an unreservedly written
>>apology
>>to
>> > your Dad.
>> >
>> > ** And, needles to say, in keeping with the ethics of good journalism,
>> > Tombong Saidy - and later on my very self - forwarded the retraction in
>>the
>> > Daily Observer, to the L, except that in my own posting to the L, I
>>made
>>a
>> > comment/observation to the effect, that it was "untrue" for the
>>Government
>> > to have said, through the Daily Observer, that your Dad was "never
>>convicted
>> > for embezzlement." Because the record shows that your Dad was indeed
>> > convicted for embezzlement!
>> >
>> > So, Sal, where did I go wrong? Or better yet, who told you, or where on
>> > earth did they say that I wrote the article in question? Yes, the
>>person
>>who
>> > authored the story about your Dad, Alieu Badara Sowe, just like you, is
>> > someone I know very well, but if he had contacted me before hand, he
>> > wouldn't have written such a wrong and hasty story.
>> >
>> > I would have given him all the facts he needed to know regarding the
>> > decision by Yaya Jammeh to appoint/nominate your Dad as Gambia's
>> > ambassador-designate to the UK and, more significantly, the disapproval
>>of
>> > your Dad's nomination by the UK government.
>> >
>> > But, the truth of the matter, Salieu, is that I have not been in any
>>form of
>> > contact with the Daily Observer since Kenneth Best sold it to Amadou
>>Samba
>> > over a year ago. And, in fact, the last time I spoke with Alieu Badara
>>Sowe
>> > was in the Gambia in 1996!
>> >
>> > So, Salieu, where is the evidence that I wrote the article on your Dad?
>> > You've really let me down academically/intellectually! Sincerely
>>speaking, I
>> > had thought that you were better than this - on the whole you are
>>nothing
>> > but a lightweight, a froth, a pipsqueak!!
>> >
>> > And, surprisingly, at your level, you do not even write English well,
>>your
>> > grammar was disappointing to say the least! Boy, if I was lucky - many
>>years
>> > ago - to have the African Development Bank pay for my University
>>Education,
>> > as they did for you all these years, believe me, I could have been one
>>of
>> > your lecturers at Buck!
>> >
>> > You call me "half-baked." Me! In fact, Susan Rowe on Gambia L, who
>>trains
>> > teachers at Reading University, and who also wrote about 5 books, had
>>to
>> > laugh at your claims - the whole of yesterday - that I, Ebrima Ceesay,
>>have
>> > "half-baked, haphazard and dubious educational background"...
>> >
>> > Well, except something is wrong with Susan Rowe (Laugh) but anyway it
>>was
>> > consoling to hear an independent person, an outsider like Susan Rowe,
>> > acknowledge that my writings, especially my English, are "impeccable"
>>unlike
>> > yours!
>> >
>> > And, by the way, even today your "half-baked" Journalist was invited in
>> > Reading to share his limited knowledge with the students there, but he
>> > couldn't make it!
>> >
>> > Well, let some of you continue to call me a "half baked" Journalist.
>>The
>> > Prophet Muhammed (SAW), as we all know, was initially rejected by his
>>own
>> > people, but, subsequently, he carried the day! My day will come!
>> >
>> > Meanwhile, at least, I can find some comfort in the fact that while
>>Salieu
>> > Taal is calling me a "half-baked" Journalist, more and more outsiders
>>are
>> > recognising the potentials in the me and are in fact demanding to work
>>with
>> > me.
>> >
>> > Susan Rowe being the latest person, apart from the late John Wiseman,
>>to
>>ask
>> > the "half-baked journalist" to co-author two books with her; and,
>>needless
>> > to say, that project will soon start.
>> >
>> > And again, thanks to Susan Rowe's benevolence, the necessary fund will
>>be
>> > obtained - through the Joseph Tree Foundation - for me to do my
>>Doctoral
>> > thesis this September! Inshallah!
>> >
>> > May be, if I have the title of "Dr" added to my name, then people like
>> > Salieu Taal, who has this mentality that ONLY Ph.D holders are
>>academically
>> > good, will soon give me the respect I deserve! (laugh!)
>> >
>> > Ebrima Ceesay
>> > Birmingham, UK
>> >
>> > PS: Gambia-L: It always pays to be humble/modest, but when people keep
>> > pushing you against the world, one is obliged to be act immodestly!
>> >
>> > Dr Janneh: Thanks for clarification on the Omar Bongo/Jammeh e-mail my
>> > source sent me yesterday!
>> >
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