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Balal na la Ahha

yes indeed sister jabou

for several months since jan 2007 all the muslim scholars that are astronomers and mathematicians met with some religious scholars in europe , south asia and in the usa plus experts from Africa ( capetown and cairo)  to finalize this method

 

the key is very simple and strategic  one location was selected and which city better than mekkah

so when the new moon is born ( the know the exact time to the seconds ) in mekkah area  alone before sunset then we start the new lunar month the following day but when the new moon is born after sunset  then the next day is the first day- reasoning is that since each month is exactly 29.5 (and half day) so it means some months will be 30 days and some 29 only

there is no half day  - so it makes sense and yes it has been accepted by the scholars

 

 

remember when the microphone or loud speakers fist came about abot 60 years ago many indo pak muslims also refused to use them because it was not used in the time of the prophet (pbuh) and not sunnah 

 well with technonogy and science advances  Imams  now use these loudspeakers to give khutbas to big crowds of worshippers  so all can hear him deliver his speech. and there is no debate on this matter any more with the cell phones and land lines -telephones have sms /ims , cameras and even videos now to almost mini computers 

 

we have the same issues with mechanical slaughter of chickens versus hand slaughter  - now machine slaughtered chickens are allowed as long as they are supervised properly to avoid mistakes and the tasmiah is said by the muslim supervisors  during the process

 

a classic example used was that during the prophets time people performed pilgrimage to mekkah on horses and camels now we us airoplanes and cars and boats. 

 

best regards to y'all in the south and have a blessed month of Ramadan

Hajj Habib







> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:35:50 -0400> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: first ramadam to be on thursday> To: [log in to unmask]> > Habib,> > Balal na la, balal ma ahhah.> > Astronomical calculations instead of actually sighting the moon? I have no issues with the rest of the Islamic World going along with the Makkans sighting of the moon as the start and end of Ramadan, but is the new standard of going with astronomical calculations  sunnah?> > Jabou> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: Habib Ghanim <[log in to unmask]>> To: [log in to unmask]> Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 8:21 pm> Subject: Re: first ramadam to be on thursday> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks sister Jabou > thank God the whole universe this year starts on the same day ie 13 th sept and > will celebrate eid on 13 th october 2007> from now on we will all noy look for the new cresent moon as the new global > standard will use makkah as the target for the whole world and now based on > astronomical and mathematical calculations only > we know when eid will fall for 5 years now without complains ( except the > bangladashis and indo pakistanis) inshallah this is a good move to unify the > ummah> > balal ma ahhah > may we meet next years ramadan in good health inshallah> habib Diab ghanim> > > > > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:01:34 -0400> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: > first ramadam to be on thursday> To: [log in to unmask]> > Ramadaan > Mubarak.> May Allah (SWT) accept our fasting and forgive us our sins.> > Jabou > Joh> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: SUNTOU TOURAY > <[log in to unmask]>> To: [log in to unmask]> Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 > 1:19 pm> Subject: first ramadam to be on thursday> > > > > > > > > > > the main > islamic news chanel in U.k announce that ramadan will comence on > thursday the > 13th of september.> i wish every body a blessed ramadan. i am sure baba and some > sanyang kunda > folks will be happy that we will wait for another day to start > the fast .not > forgeting the darboe kunda crew .saloum,haruna and lj darboe > .God bless ,guys.> suntou.> > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤> > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > > interface> at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html> > To Search in > the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l> > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:> [log in to unmask]> > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤> > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________> Email > and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com> > ����������������������������������������������������������> > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > interface> at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html> > To Search in > the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l> > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:> [log in to unmask]> > ����������������������������������������������������������> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com> > ����������������������������������������������������������> To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface> at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html> > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l> To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:> [log in to unmask]> ����������������������������������������������������������

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