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Hello,

Keep me out of trash. Check your fact. I have zro to do with Sankunu. Who told you Sankau is Emman?

Ibeg i have safe me from your problems.

Emman
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> Datum: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 16:58:00 +0100
> Von: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
> An: [log in to unmask]
> Betreff: Re: The dimwit Sankanu needs help. He goes by the pseudo name Emman in some Gambian forums

> Wassa
> If it is right for Africans to insult others because they feel Idol
> worship
> has taken a back seat in some African community, then it is ok to brand
> such
> statements as trash.
> An elder forum member like you ought to know, countless of Africans today
> who are Christians or Muslims are articulate enough to relate to the past
> African traditional worhsip, yet they are not running back to it. Sankanu
> can put his money where his mouth is by promoting African culture without
> being rude about his fellow Africans who have accepted Christianity or
> Islam.
> African traditionalist, promoters of Idol worship should make their
> beliefs
> attractive, make it progressive instead basing it on manufacturing issues
> about others.
> The dynamism of culture is such that, one can make a culture lively
> through
> movies, drama, literature without paying too attention on other cultures
> or
> traditions. The reactionary insult and lying against Islam and
> Christianity
> isn't going to make much people want to go back to taking Voodoo' as
> Sankanu
> said to be the norm in their lives.
> There are strong and eminent Africanist, this people are equally good
> Muslims or Christians. These religions are divorce of culture and
> tradition
> in it pristine sense. Therefore, it a sad trend to see some Africans who
> largely neglect Africa for the bastion of Western Christendom to be crying
> Woolf over what the Christain did against us.
> Didn't Sankanu know, Germany is not the best place to promote African
> Arts?
> Let us stop the pretence. How many so-call Pan-Africanist con promoter of
> African culture end up spending their entire adult life among largely
> non-Africans?
> How can one be doctor whilst you never practise in a hospital.
> As far as Islam is concern, the message is directed an humanity at large.
> Africans as it happens are human beings too. Hence, cheap emotive rousing
> statements about Idol worship, ancestral worship or voodoo cultism will
> not
> appeal to the intellect to many Pan-Africans let alone universal Africans.
> Wassa, If you read the piece by Sankanu keenly, his tirades where
> misplaced.
> Let him find the money,, get the experts, and make a movie promoting
> Voodoo,
> Idol worship, anything he wants to promote about African culture. But
> attacking us for his financial incentive masquerading as a champion of
> African arts will not go unchallenged. For all it is worth, join him in
> his
> money finding venture, but African Muslims and Christians are working hard
> promoting all that is good about Africa. Every society starts from a
> certain
> point, they advance from there.
> Let Sankunu go and build a Temple in whichever part of Africa takes his
> fancy, but writing certain illicit statements, sending it to anti-Muslims
> organisation for cash is deception.
> Pan-Africans like Taj where good Muslims, yet has Sankanu did what he has
> done for the advancement of the cause of Africa?
> How many more Pan-Africanist or decent Africans can we name that are doing
> wonders for the cause of mother Africa yet are Muslims or Christians? What
> has that got to do with making African leaders swear to Idols for them to
> be corrupt free?
> Finally, let him go to his Village of Soutuma and start from there.
>
>  The scholastic created the institutions of higher education in the
> western
> hemisphere, what were they? Where does Christianity originate from?,
> Is Jesus a white man or European? The Buddhism use as an example in China
> is
> not originated in China. Where is Buddha from? Human beings have one
> connection, we take what we perceive as good from each other. Just like
> you
> match into a Supermarket and buy your delicious fruits, veges and other
> grocery. You don't go around asking the check out clerk where is this food
> from or I want to be serve by an African. You do the right thing, by
> having
> faith in human decency.
>
>  There are Europeans that are Muslims, Buhdish, Hindu, Egyptologist, etc.
> Are we saying, they are having inferiority complex by accepting those
> religions?
> I have seen former racist supremacist with tattoo all over their body
> ditch
> that for Islam. This people use to feed on hate and disdain for others.
> Yet
> we believe by peddling backward argument against Christianity and Islam
> will
> miraculously make Africanism attractive. We are proud of the colour we are
> in, yet are also proud of being Muslims, some Christians some whatever.
> Suntou
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Wassa Fatti <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Suntou,
> > What is trash about Sankanu assertion about knowledge and believe in
> > understanding African spirituality? Is it not rigfht for Africans to
> know,
> > understand, believe and respect thier own trash than to accept other
> > peoples' trash and end up not believing yourself or confidence in
> yourself
> > or hating yourself?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Wassa
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:54:27 +0100
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: The dimwit Sankanu needs help. He goes by the pseudo name Emman
> in
> > some Gambian forums
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> > Please read his other engagements. In the quest to log into certain
> > institutions, one has to betray what one is. The extent the game works
> is
> > sad. Sankanu has written a lot nonsense attacking Islam at every given
> > opportunity. To validate himself, now he think his little scanty reading
> on
> > Western enlightenment prepare him for lecturing the Mandingos and other
> > Muslims.
> > He must be fickle to think that, his trash warrant serious response.
> > However, people like him cannot afford to be ignored. They wish to be
> > discussed just like the 'whole life crisis' so-call editor. One has to
> feel
> > sorry for them. Below is Sankanu's trash saying that, 'Voodoo is good'.
> > Sankunu will do himself justice if can convince his German hosts who are
> > entering into Islam to quit it instead of the Mandingos who have been
> > Muslims for over a thousand years. The pillock need to wise up. Dude, we
> > have read all the crap that you are bragging with. To be frank, you seem
> > sad. Digging into his commercial atheism is necessary to reveal his
> > motivations. With the quest to tap into certain funds, one has to betray
> > his/her conscience to be allowed such resources. Many are at it with the
> new
> > western strategy of using Diasporan against their own folks. New breeds
> or
> > the re-emergence of colonial collaborators...Sankanu is not funny
> anymore.
> > The nake Prince is at again...
> >
> >
> > Voodoo Is Not
> Evil<http://www.africac.org/VoodooisnotevilmydearNigerianfilmmakers.html>
> > http://www.africac.org/CinemaArtsofNigeriaCINENIGERIA.html
> >
> >
> > *Why is the African Religion portrayed in the Nigerian and Ghanaian
> movies
> > as evil?
> > *
> > By Prince Bubacarr Aminata Sankanu
> >
> > My Dearest Nigerian and Ghanaian Filmmakers, Regulators and Fans,
> >
> > African Traditional Religion (Ifa, Voodoo) is not as evil. All religions
> > are equal but because of inferiority complex, stupidity or cultural
> > colonialism, Africans are marginalising their ancestral Voodoo (Ifa)
> > Religion.
> >
> > The Qur'an said "Let there be no compulsion in religion."(Al-Qur'an
> 2:256).
> > Those who are therefore trying to force Sharia or the born-again "pater
> > nostra" propaganda on people by force or deception are disrespecting
> God.
> > Even in an Islamic Sharia State, Non-Muslim minorities, be they the
> > Magunzawas or atheists, have the right to be protected as "Dhimi" with
> space
> > to practice their forms of worship peacefully.
> >
> > "Whoever hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state hurts me, and he
> who
> > hurts me annoys God." (Hadith Bukhari). The Qur’an further recognises
> > religious pluralism. “To you belongs your religion, and to me, mine
> (lakum
> > dini kum waliya dini) (Al Qur'an 109:6)!"
> >
> > If the AFRICAN RENAISSANCE is to succeed, African Religion must be freed
> > from the societal marginalization, discrimination by Christian and
> Muslim
> > groups, misrepresentations in Nigerian/Ghanaian home videos and the
> > Hollywood “voodoo doll” stereotypes!
> >
> > All religions in the world face aberrations. Not all Muslims are
> terrorists
> > and extremists. Not all pastors and evangelists are living the luxurious
> > lifestyles of politicians and business tycoons while their followers are
> > getting poorer and poorer!
> >
> >
> > Our African Religion has positive sides as well. So not all BABALAWOS
> > (herbalists) are satanic witches and evil Juju makers! Africans are not
> late
> > comers to the Abrahamic Religions (Islam, Christianity and Judaism) and
> do
> > not need aggressive and bias missionary propaganda. A Black man was one
> of
> > the Three Kings who welcomed baby Jesus Christ in Bethlehem. A Black man
> > Bilal was the First Person to call to prayers at Muslim Holy Kaaba in
> Mecca.
> >
> >
> > African Religion is as universal as Christianity, Islam or Judaism!
> >
> > If African Religion is evil, why has the Republic of Benin recognized it
> > officially as a Religion?
> >
> > Ironically, the Diaspora Africans in places like Cuba (Santeria), Brazil
> > (Candoble), Haiti, Trinidad &Tobago and USA, to name a few, respect
> African
> > Religion more than the brainwashed Continental Africans! The Late
> Susanne
> > Wenger a white woman left Europe and Christianity to dedicate her life
> to
> > the advancement of African Religion in Oshogbo, Osun State of Nigeria.
> Why?
> >
> > Nigeria as Africa and the World's Most Populous Black Nation has a
> > historical, cultural, political, economic and moral responsibility to
> > protect this African Living Heritage. Not for the sake of the intolerant
> > Muslim and Christian groups fighting for supremacy but for the sake of
> the
> > Peoples of African Descent worldwide!
> >
> > All religions are being abused today for money and politics. If one
> cannot
> > be a politician, a government contractor, an internet scammer, drug
> > trafficker, money launderer, armed robber or kidnapper, one is tempted
> to
> > form a church or mosque to exploit the religiousness of Nigerians and
> > Africans!
> >
> > It is funny that God is still not answering the prayers for electrify,
> > water supply, protection from armed robbery, kidnapping, cultism,
> > corruption, poverty, despite the fact that millions of believers are
> > flocking into the Churches and Mosques Has ten year of Sharia uplifted
> > Northern Nigeria from poverty and the so called vices? Has the “Made
> in USA”
> > born-again Pentecostal movement is Southern Nigeria improved the
> standards
> > of living of their followers? Why is God not answering the prayers?
> Innocent
> > old women and children are being abused as witches in the name of God
> who
> > must be angry with the blatant abuse of religion which has now turning
> into
> > a billion dollar be rich quick industry.
> >
> > The filmmaker and journalists seem to be more interesting in portraying
> the
> > clerics who are living bling-bling fabulous lifestyles in “God’s
> name” than
> > recognizing the silent Nigerian answers to Mother Theresa, Martin Luther
> > King Junor or Reverend Jeremiah Wright.
> >
> > May be a "Religious Crimes Commission" or an “African Spirituality
> Court
> > (for traditional religion)" should be formed by the Nigerian Government
> to,
> > among others, isolate the charlatans from the genuine ones. Declaring
> public
> > holidays for African Religions will be a positive move against
> > discrimination. *Holders of public officer should also be encouraged to
> > swear by the gods of African tradition religion when taking public
> office to
> > help beat bad leadership. May corrupt officials and tycoons who once
> swore
> > by the Bible and the Qur’an are now regular guests of the Nigerian
> Economic
> > and Financial Crimes Commission.
> > *
> > I humbly appeal to all Nigerian Filmmakers, the Officials of the Censors
> > Board (NFVCB) and the Broadcasting Commission, to engage the services of
> > genuine experts of African Religion as consultants so that future movies
> and
> > media products can show balanced Africa. Perhaps some stakeholders are
> > ignorant about their heritage and need inspiration from the rich African
> > Ancestral Archives.
> >
> > Respected Nigerian filmmaker Tunde Kelani is an authority worthy of
> > emulation. He researches his work diligently showing the richness of
> African
> > Civilization in a productive manner.
> >
> > Nigerian is a multinational secular State of at least 250 ethnic groups.
> It
> > will be very said and destructive if the Christian-Muslim values of the
> > three (3) leading groups are imposed on the remaining 247 through
> movies,
> > music, media and other creative arts forms!
> >
> > The problems of the Niger Delta originated from the economic exclusion
> of
> > the minorities. Excluding or marginalising the Non-Muslim and
> Non-Christian
> > minority ethnic nations through the creative and culture industry
> (movies,
> > music, TV, etc), will brake up Nigeria! For a person without a vibrant
> > culture is a dead one!
> >
> > The Indians have many Hindu gods like Ganesha, Krishna,Hanuma, Rama,
> etc.
> > Have you ever watched an Indians Bollywood movie in which the Hindu
> religion
> > is portrayed as evil? Are the Indians portraying their Khama Sutra
> sexuality
> > traditional as obscene, decadent and immoral like the way we Africans
> > hypocritically do about say, the semi-nude roles of actress Cossy
> Orijaor or
> > Halima Abubakar? Yet India has more influential Muslims and Christians
> than
> > Nigeria! The Japanese will never call their centuries- old Geisha
> tradition
> > as high class prostitution. The Chinese are exporting their traditional
> > medicine and the Indian traditional Ayurveda is now part of the global
> > wellness business.
> >
> > It is not funny that the Indian Bollywood movies are not being banned by
> > the Censors Boards and the Hisbah Sharia Police for “anti-Islamic idol
> > worshipping messages” despite the fact that the Bollywood movies show
> Indian
> > acts worshipping or celebrating their Hindu gods and rituals with pride?
> But
> > Northern Nigerian movie makers, writers, musicians and fashion designers
> > face strict censor as if the Arewa Civilization has no room for music,
> > creativity, romance, dance, fashion, sexuality, leisure and social
> > commentary.
> >
> > A very rich Arewa Heritage existed before Islam and Sharia and still
> > exists. Killing this Arewa Heritage is like committing mass cultural
> > suicide. We must not forget that the Trans- Saharan trade by the Arabs
> who
> > brought Islam to us was no less brutal than the Trans-Atlantic slave
> trade
> > by the Europeans who brought Christianity to Africa.
> >
> > Islam and Christianity are not against arts and creative freedom. Why is
> > the Vatican not erasing those nude scenes Michelangelo painted on the
> > ceilings of the Sistin Chapel in Rome? The top Indian acts like Sharukh
> Khan
> > or music composer A.R. Rahman are Muslims!
> >
> >
> > Let us wake up! Remember since the invention of Cinema screening by the
> > Lumière Brothers in1895, Africa was portrayed negatively or according
> the
> > terms of outsiders. Our generation has therefore the duty to start
> filling
> > in this gap of 114 years of misrepresentation. Portraying African
> Religion,
> > Heritage and Traditions as veil and copying Hollywood, MTV and Bollywood
> are
> > the wrong approach. Every inch of the Nigerian soil is full of
> inspiration.
> > Besides, 250 ethnic groups mean 250 rich archives to learn from.
> >
> > Feel free to send me your feedbacks. We need healthy debates to take the
> > Nigerian and African Film Industry to the next level. I intend to
> sincerely
> > contribute my quota through my ten-year “Global Branding and Capacity
> > Building Programme for the Nigeria Cinema Industry (2008-2018)!”
> >
> > Thank you very much for your understanding.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> >
> > Prince Bubacarr Aminata. Sankanu
> > African Council for Arts and Culture e.V.
> >
> >
> > Read more:
> >
> http://www.afrowall.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=1ec77a6d843247fdcd3ea9398ea9457f&topic=13313.msg81424#msg81424#ixzz0ySCYfnEB<http://www.afrowall.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=1ec77a6d843247fdcd3ea9398ea9457f&topic=13313.msg81424#msg81424%23ixzz0ySCYfnEB>
> >
> > --
> > Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
> > "And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the
> > difference of your languages and colours. Verily, in that are indeed
> signs
> > for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
> >
> > www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
> >
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