Here you go again Saul! I am not matured enough to know you or Ihave to rely
on Gambia Support Group for some Saul report? Hell no! Now you are talking
about real distortions!What a tough guy. If even talking to a person for 4-5
years cannot properly break the ice.Then what an ICEBLOCK.Yes sad it may
seem to you but again the world is full of FJMannehs,Bokarr SEys and Ebou
Jallows.Saul and you have to deal with that.I am so dissappointed about this
analysis of yours. Again your intolerance is surfacing and blinding you to
the facts.Thanks for assasinating our freindship.If for five years you
cannot decide on a frienship then call it quits if you don't want to sink
along.
I don't need anybody or group to tell me who Saul is. You words say it very
well.

JAW.
>From: saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: THE END OF THE ROAD
>Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:02:07 GMT
>
>Jaw,
>
>Be careful with these views, because I think you're latching unto a
>distorted view of what happened between myself and Ebou Jallow, and my
>character. This was the case:
>
>Halifa Sallah and Joe Sambou replied to some postings of Ebou Jallow. I
>told
>both to ignore the guy given his record. He went on his usual antics,
>quoting "sources" who "told him" I'm a "loser" and even forwarding a
>private
>mail from someone with my last name. (Apparently that guy escaped Yaya's
>death squad by the skin of his teeth!) But in any case, I said what I
>thought of the whole issue, and moved on. And I've stated that clearly LAST
>week. End of story as far as I'm concern. So, this whole
>cutlass/"confrontation" thing is really baffling to me. I just can't
>imagine
>where this idea is coming from. Don't you think I have better things to do
>than to confront Ebou Jallow?
>
>And regarding this leadership thing, you're making too many wrong
>assumptions. Who ever said I want to be one? In truth, we don't really know
>each other too well. (It's been 4/5? years since we first met, and our
>phone
>conversations don't seem to be doing the ice-crushing properly.) So, I can
>understand the terrible misconceptions you have. I don't think it does me
>any justice in reality. But if I were to become a leader in some
>hypothetical country, the last thing I'll do is throw somebody out, because
>they don't see things the way I do. If one is in the habit of ingratiating
>oneself with the powers that be through lying, and other slimy tactics,
>such
>a person will most definitely not feel welcome around me. I simply don't
>kiss up to anyone, and I don't let anyone kiss up to me. It's that simple!
>If you've got something useful to say, I'm all ears. But if one's only
>motive is to massage my ego, one may be appealing to the wrong man. That
>attitude really annoys me. And we do have too many people who make a living
>leading such phony lives.
>
>Regarding Essa Sey, he was not "thrown out," Jaw. Essa, like most of the
>people around Yaya Jammeh, makes a living peddling lies. That's easy to do
>in Gambia. Not on this List. Most of the contributors here have some
>education, and can tell when someone is peeing on them. This was simply the
>case with Essa. He lied about many things, and some of us did not only tell
>him, we PROVED to him that he was lying. (Note the difference.) Because
>Essa
>knew there is NO WAY he'll be able to get away with lying to this distro
>without being challenged, he VOLUNTARILY de-listed. As far as I know, the
>man is welcome anytime, as long as he is ready to respect others'
>intelligence by desisting from peddling lies on behalf on Yaya Jammeh. So,
>it's not accurate to say that he was forced out. Any Yaya supporter is
>welcome as long as he/she obeys the ground rules: speak the truth, and
>NEVER
>try defending the indefensible. Too bad the previous ones found out the
>hard
>way.
>
>I have no doubt that many Gambians are like Essa Sey. That's the tragic
>truth. I can handle that. What I CANNOT accept is when people try to impose
>their indiscipline on me as if it's normal. And this has been my problem
>with many Gambians. You may want to check with people in The Gambia Support
>Group, 'cause I think you're coming from that angle. You see, freedom is
>not
>absolute. It's relative. If we agree to meet at 3pm, and I leave my
>business
>to make it, and I have to wait three hours for you to show up (if you do at
>all.) And that happens a few more times. YES, I do have a serious problem
>with that attitude! A grown man voluntarily agrees to do something at a
>specific time, but you have to be a baby sitter to get him to follow
>through. What's that about? I don't waste my own time, why should I let
>anyone else waste it? Or the fact that when Jaw Manneh is around, she's
>perfect. But as soon as she turns her back, she's a devil. I prefer telling
>you to your face what's on my mind? That is clearly not the predominant
>thinking in that org., 'cause some people have turned back-stabbing into an
>art form. I simply refuse to be drawn into it. So, in truth, who's shoving
>his thinking down who's throat?
>
>And that's the typical Gambian scene! But the tragedy here is that, you're
>finding fault with people like me who expect others to respect their own
>VOLUNTARY commitments, or at least to have the decency to tell Jaw Manneh
>what problems they have with her, as opposed to spreading garbage behind
>her. I make no presumptions about being perfect. Never have, never will.
>All
>I demand is that you do what YOU promised to do, rectify someone directly,
>or at least stand by the truth. And if all Gambians are like the "FJManneh,
>Essa Seys, and Ebou Jallows," then that's simply too bad. I have absolutely
>no wish or inclination to sink to such level. People can do whatever they
>choose as long as they don't encroach upon my rights. I call it principles.
>Others can call it whatever they want. But more importantly, others can
>decide what side to join. That decision is theirs to make, and it doesn't
>cost me any sleep.
>
>No hard feelings Jaw. I just don't understand where you're getting these
>ideas.
>
>Saul.
>
>
>>Ebou,
>>I am so very glad to know that you don't want to be a ninja! Saul would
>>have
>>advocating for
>>democracy,rule of law, fairness, decency, intergrity and consistency. How
>>about a little patience and accommodation! You cannot for your bravery for
>>comming out in the open, denouncing and really
>am sure we will also
>
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