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omar joof <[log in to unmask]>
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Mr Jeng,
Thank your very much for the " laugh", and the wry face that may have gone
with it! But what, miss your point, sounds like a joke. Whatever!
In a more serious note, I believe you know better than anyone else that I
was not making a point, on any leadership role  Mr Juwara may have played in
the formation of NDAM. You know better indeed!
However, you are right in indicating that your reference to Waa's politics
has proven  a source of contention. A critical analysis of the craft of your
original piece shows that bit on Waa's politics standing out on its own.
That fact in inself gives it prominence. Furthermore, because he is a
politician, the issue of his politics is a matter of great significance.
Bringing that question out at the prominent conclusion of your write-up,
gives it a rather cynical tone.
Have a nice weekend.
Omar Joof.



>From: [log in to unmask]
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Why the silence/Sanusi
>Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:57:44 -0400
>
>Mr. Joof,
>
>Maybe I need to throw in some clarification, and I do not distrust Waa'
>politics as you seemed to think that is What I intended to say. In response
>to Ya Soffie,  I wanted to clarify the statement that I will continue to
>question his politics, and this is applicable to all politicians, and that
>I did not have any ultra hidden message. In regards to the point that I
>somehow indicated that NDAM is Waa's personal property, now my good friend
>that was a low blow...laugh. But for anyone to think that Waa is not an
>important Pioneer for the formation of NDAM is naiivity at best, not that
>it means a whole lot to the point I intended to make. Omar, all I was
>trying to do was to come up with instances that I might have question Waa's
>political position, maybe using the word his politics might have throw in a
>different meaning that i did not intend to make .
>
>Thanksd
>Musa jeng
>
> > From: omar joof <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 2003/10/18 Sat AM 02:14:17 EDT
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Why the silence/Sanusi
> >
> > Folks,
> > I apologise for coming back to the debate so late, and I hope you will
> > appreciate my position when I say that I was simply held up by school
>work.
> > All the same , both sister Jabou and Sanusi have raised  points which I
> > intend to address here. But before coming onto that, I wish to say
>something
> > in connection with another angle to the debate going on, in which Musa
>Jeng
> > (mose) insist he has(or would have) questions about Waa's politics.
> > Musa, like anyone of us has every right to raise questions pertaining to
>any
> > politician's politics. Suffice it to say that on this occasion he has
>not
> > raised any specific questions about Mr Juwara's politics. If he means to
>say
> > that he will continue to distrust Waa's politics, and he has the decency
>to
> > say so in public, then one would expect him to have a good enough reason
>for
> > such a position. A reason that he can publicly discuss without losing
>face.
> > However, Musa has written of Mr Juwara forming NDAM as if it is his
>personal
> > property. This is very wrong. NDAM infact was formed by a collection of
> > individuals in the Gambia and the diaspora. Thus it is again wrong to
>say
> > that it was formed by any one individual.
> > With regard sister Jabou's question pertaining to what to do in view of
>the
> > Jammeh regime's flagrant violations of the constitution and other laws
>of
> > the Gambia, the answer is as simple as this: let the masses defend the
>law.
> > For example, in the run up to 2006, through the coalition, the
>individual
> > political organisations and all civil society organisations, let us all
> > advocate for free and fair democratic elections. Then all of us should
>adopt
> > zero tolerance for electoral fraud, and be prepared to defend the will
>of
> > the people at all costs. I am convinced that the top brass of the APRC
>of
> > the AFPRC, does not believe in democracy. They would do anything that
>would
> > perpetuate their stay in power. They believe in terror and aggression,
>and
> > they would brutalize and murder us if that is what would brake our
> > resilience so that they can walk over us. Softly-softly politics will
>never
> > bring this regime down, it simply gives them the opportunity to spread
>their
> > nefarious tentacles in our society and strenthen their stranglehold on
>the
> > Gambia.
> > As for the reconstitution of the IEC which mr Juwara advocated for, it
> > envisages the inclusion of representatives of political organisations to
>the
> > membership of the IEC. The reality at the moment is that the IEC has a
> > chairperson who is known to be a defactor member of the APRC/AFPRC. His
> > neutrality in the execution of his duties has never been trusted,
>therefore
> > it would only be fair if the other political organisations in the
>country
> > are represented  in the IEC. This could also represent opening up the
>IEC
> > thereby effecting transparency.
> > It should be noted, in conclusion, that the urgency of the need for the
> > coalition to set up a machinery on the ground now cannot be exaggerated.
>I
> > agree with sister Jabou that we need an organisation like a coalition to
> > coordinate our struggle against injustice in the Gambia. This would
>improve
> > our chances for success in our drive for free and fair democratic
>elections.
> > The task at hand is a very difficult one. After having so many skeletons
>in
> > its  cupboard, it should be expected that the APRC of AFPRC  will make
> > dogged efforts to clink onto power even if faced with an overwhelming
> > challenge. But we should all take heart because this is a struggle
>between
> > right and wrong; the good and evil; a struggle to supplant a barbarous,
> > brutal, criminal and incompetent political leadership with a just and
> > efficient one.But the bottomline is, we must back our words with action.
>We
> > must not only make it obvious to the Jammeh regime that we are fed up
>with
> > its acts of injustice, but we should make it cristal clear to them that
>a
> > subversion of the will of the people will not be tolerated again.
> > Omar Joof.
> >
> >
> > >From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Why the silence/Sanusi
> > >Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:56:49 EDT
> > >
> > >In a message dated 10/17/03 10:28:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > >[log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > If we Gambians hastily advocate for a United Coalition
> > > > without addressing the issue of Free and Fair
> > > > Election, then sorry we are bound to see Yahya Jammeh
> > > > re-elected due to our complacency.
> > > >
> > > > Lets all  NOW work for Free and Fair Elections in 2006
> > > >
> > > > Sanusi
> > > >
> > > > Sanusi,
> > >
> > >
> > >I just do not understand how we can address a free and fair elections
>under
> > >the APRC regime when these guyd ignore all laws and are bent on placing
>as
> > >many
> > >obstacles in the path of the opposition as possible. Perhaps there is a
> > >process that I am not aware of and which can be utilized to accomplish
> > >this?Perhaps
> > >some of you who know ways that this issue can be addressed can shed
>some
> > >light on this.
> > >
> > >
> > >Jabou Joh
> > >
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