Well, it's kind of weird. My left hand doesn't always want to close.  It's painful to do so, most of the time. Opening it is a challenge as well. When I have to use my other hand to open my ring finger, for example,  it makes this pop noise and sneds a shock wave of pain to accompany it. My wrist seems to be somewhat unhappy as well. That's in short why the hand doc visit coming up.

Vicki



----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:54 pm
Subject: Vicki's hand

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> Vic,
> 
> What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's can hear, too.
> 
> Phil.
> 
> How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
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> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Vicki 
>   To: [log in to unmask] 
>   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>   Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
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> 
>   Phil and everybody,
> 
>   Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know what you know.  I can't imagine having that much pain though and I sure will be praying.  I get some living with pain myself as I am in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great deal and I have exercises to do at home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and praying no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be returned to manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be praying that for you too.
> 
>   Vicki
> 
> 
>   .  
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: Phil Scovell 
>     To: [log in to unmask] 
>     Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>     Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
> 
> 
>     First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
> 
>     My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical tests they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, the vertebras are all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the disks which in turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming in contact with nerves which creates the pain in all the various locations.  The pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, and all the way down to my ankles.  Each back episode, creates pain in multiple places but not the same places each and every time.  Also, the pain level my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery because it would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to repair the damage that is ongoing.  They are recommending physical therapy in order to learn ways of exercising to the point the vertebras pull back from each other further and thus creating less pressure on the disks.  In short, learn to live with it.  I was hoping it would be a single set of vertebra that could be fused but that isn't the case.  The pain episodes will continue but hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the exercises can be continued at home and should help keep things in better shape; maybe.  At some point, if the PT is helping, I can go back and get shots in different places of my lower back to help with pain management, if it gets unbearable, that is, but only time will tell.  Learning to live with pain is going to be the name of the game.  At least now I know.  Certainly not as encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better than not knowing.
> 
>     Phil.
> 
>     Satan Has A God Complex
>     www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
> 
> Vic,
>  
> What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so other's can hear, too.
>  
> Phil.
> 
> How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>  
>  
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Vicki 
> To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG 
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
> 
> 
> Phil and everybody,
>  
> Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know what you know.  I can't imagine having that much pain though and I sure will be praying.  I get some living with pain myself as I am in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great deal and I have exercises to do at home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and praying no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be returned to manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be praying that for you too.
>  
> Vicki
>  
>  
> .  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Phil Scovell 
> To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG 
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
> Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
> 
> 
> First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>  
> My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical tests they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, the vertebras are all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the disks which in turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming in contact with nerves which creates the pain in all the various locations.  The pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, and all the way down to my ankles.  Each back episode, creates pain in multiple places but not the same places each and every time.  Also, the pain level my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery because it would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to repair the damage that is ongoing.  They are recommending physical therapy in order to learn ways of exercising to the point the vertebras pull back from each other further and thus creating less pressure on the disks.  In short, learn to live with it.  I was hoping it would be a single set of vertebra that could be fused but that isn't the case.  The pain episodes will continue but hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the exercises can be continued at home and should help keep things in better shape; maybe.  At some point, if the PT is helping, I can go back and get shots in different places of my lower back to help with pain management, if it gets unbearable, that is, but only time will tell.  Learning to live with pain is going to be the name of the game.  At least now I know.  Certainly not as encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better than not knowing.
>  
> Phil.
> 
> Satan Has A God Complex
> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com