Yah I agree with you. But, unfortunaetely most people do assume terrible things like that. I have the problem of people calling me gay just because I have never gotten married. and have not had a boy friend in quite a while. And I would not have a lady roommate just for that reason. Of course I will not have a man roomate for th reason of people assuming. God probably knows humans are bad at assuming so that is why he probably wants us to obstain form appearances of. Of course we all fall short of the glory of God.
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Christ is either Lord of all or he is not Lord at all.
Karen Carter '74
> If they really care to know they can ask. We can not judge by appearances
> because appearances are misleading. If two women live together do we assume
> they are lesbians? If two men live together do we assume they are gay? Do
> we say Oh dear we shouldn't live together because a gay couple may continue
> with there horrible practices. The Amish still practice bundling because it
> is cold and they don't want to drive home late on their horses. do we
> assume they are fornicating? It is true some men who live with men are gay
> but not all and it is wrong to make such assumptions and some Amish I am
> sure fornicate but not all do I am sure. ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:28 PM
> Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
>
>
> > It is also the appearance of fornacation. You and your partner know you
> are not sinning but what about the people around you. They don't so them
> assume that you are doing just that.
> >
> > --
> > Christ is either Lord of all or he is not Lord at all.
> > Karen Carter '74
> >
> >
> >
> > > I agree with you. It seems Christians today think the devil is bound to
> win
> > > in every situation. I think if you do live together without falling in
> to
> > > sin it will prove to you more than anything else your love for each
> other is
> > > not based on mere physical attraction but instead is a heavenly godly
> love
> > > which will last through the years. It will also serve as a testament of
> > > your commitment to god's precepts. I will pray that you be constant in
> this
> > > commitment which I know you will and that your marriage will last as
> long as
> > > the firm foundation on which it will be built which is Christ.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jenifer Barr" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
> > >
> > >
> > > > what is a vow between god and two people? If we have vowed before God
> and
> > > > each other that sex will not occur until marriage, then why is living
> > > > together a sin? We are not intimate until then. I understand about
> > > > temptation but that's when you pray every day that God keeps you
> strong.
> > > >
> > > > Our situation is unique and it's not like we haven't prayed about it.
> I
> > > > guess I'm just hurt because everyone seems to think that just because
> > > we're
> > > > going to be living together the devel is going to win. God is the
> only
> > > one
> > > > in control. Is this our ideal situation? no. I've been through too
> much
> > > > in the past to know what temptation can do to someone... and i... or
> yet
> > > > we... will not break our vow before god.
> > > >
> > > > Jenifer Barr.
> > > > When the trumpet blows... I'm outta here!
> > > > AIM: jenibear1998
> > > > msn
> > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:06 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hey Jen,
> > > > > First of all, I'm sorry that you are dealing with an
> inflexible
> > > > > pastor. I don't see what difference it makes to him whether the
> > > cerimony
> > > > > is big or small, before or after the civil cerimony. I suppose that
> he
> > > is
> > > > > standing on something for theological reasons, but I have no clue
> what
> > > > > that
> > > > > would be. It seems to me that you are left with three options:
> switch
> > > > > pastors, move the wedding up, or leave things as they are and trust
> God
> > > > > for a miracle. As a child of God, the one option that you don't
> have,
> > > is
> > > > > to move in together. If you begin your marriage by compromising
> your
> > > > > principles on something that is truly small in the grand scheme of
> > > > > things,
> > > > > how can you be trusted for the bigger ones. Believe me, the one
> thing
> > > > > that
> > > > > I am learning about our heavenly Father is that he is extremely
> creative
> > > > > in
> > > > > the solution department. We often miss it because we get so stuck
> in
> > > > > thinking that the only solutions available to us are the ones that
> we
> > > can
> > > > > see and we shut the door on His creativity. This is a test. This
> is
> > > only
> > > > > a test. The question is, will you trust Him and wait for His
> solution
> > > and
> > > > > timing or will you continue to see with earthly eyes only what is
> > > > > possible. Good luck on your adventure. He is faithful. Your task
> is
> > > to
> > > > > remain patient and at peace! GRIN!
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 05:17 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:
> > > > >>Hi all. As most of you know, i am getting married in november. I
> found
> > > > >>out
> > > > >>today from work that they want me to transfer in the beginning of
> > > august.
> > > > >>I
> > > > >>can't tell them i won't transfer then because it is the end of our
> > > fiscal
> > > > >>year august 31 and i could forfit my job. Problem is though, that
> my
> > > > >>fiancee and I decided that to save money... if i had to move in
> > > september
> > > > >>or
> > > > >>october we would just live together until the wedding. We both
> don't
> > > > >>really
> > > > >>like the idea but it's like we have no choice. I don't know what to
> do.
> > > > >>I'm so confused... i don't know what is right and wrong. Both my
> > > fiancee
> > > > >>and I are born-again Christians, we will in no way have sex before
> > > > >>marriage
> > > > >>so if we made/make that pledge to god is living together before
> marriage
> > > a
> > > > >>sin? Is it wrong? And what do i do if it is? I know of other
> > > christian
> > > > >>couples who have lived together before marriage. I am just so
> scattered
> > > > >>right now. Please pray for clarity for me? And above all, pray
> Gods
> > > will
> > > > >>be done.
> > > > >>I love you all.
> > > > >>Jenifer Barr.
> > > > >>When the trumpet blows... I'm outta here!
> > > > >>AIM: jenibear1998
> > > > >>msn
> > > > >>[log in to unmask]
> > > > >
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