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Kathy Du Bois <[log in to unmask]>
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Echurch-USA The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:25:58 -0400
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Vinny,
Do you still pray for healing?
Kathy


At 01:35 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
>     Hi Everyone,
>I absolutely believe in the phenominon ofspiritual abuse.  I have seen lots
>of it in many
>areas.
>I don't know that I want to share my story, because it opens up a big can of
>worms.  However, God told me I had to forgive those preachers which were
>thinking they could heal me, in order to put another notch in their gun
>belt, so-to-speak.
>
>The major problem with all this, is that the devil has been trying to work
>overtime in our lives against any belief in healing.
>Let's look at this strictly from a logical point of view.
>1.  Jesus healed blindness and many other disabilities. 2.  He told his
>disciples to heal the sick, raise the dead etc. 3. He told his disciples
>that they would even do greater works than he did.
>Now here is the questions we all must answer.
>Where is it in the bible that Jesus said that all healing and signs and
>wonders, and gifts of the spirit would cease after the book of Acts and the
>early church?
>Well, there is no such scripture.  That doctrine is a doctrine of man and of
>devils.
>Therefore, everyone, inspite at the abuse we have all suffered under the
>hands of well-meaning, and not-so-well-meaning preachers, yet, healing and
>everything else God promised in His word, is for today.
>The Devill has used all this garbage we have gone through, to discourage us
>into believing that there is no healing or baptism in the spirit, or
>anything else.
>Now, though I believe in healing, I believ contrary to the healing
>preachers, for the Lord heals, not the preachers.  So I prefer to leave it
>in the Lord's  hands, and in his timing.
>Nevertheless, know that God is greater than our experiences, whether they be
>bad or good.  And we can trust our Lord to do what he purposes to do in our
>lives, no matter what the doctrines of man might be.
>
>Vinny
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:52 PM
>Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
>
>
> > Kerri,
> >
> > The bottom line is, your parents loved you enough to try and do something.
> > Abuse?  Not really.  The lies you believe, on the other hand, are getting
>in
> > the way of your life and relationship with the Lord.  Those types of
> > experiences just add fuel to the fire.  There are lies that just need to
>be
> > cleared up is all.  Jesus knows how to do that very well.  You did the
>right
> > think by bringing it up because that is what echurch is all about.
> >
> > Phil.
> >

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