That is just one of the reasons, I think, the Angel of the Lord told marry 
she was blessed among women.  She may have questioned, but she was 
constantly obedient and never raised one complaint.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Where Jesus Was Born


> Good morning Angel,
> As you know we shouldn't judge people but we do.  I hadn't thought of it 
> that way until Phil sent that message.  Not very many people living on the 
> earth would accept that kind of situation without complaint.
> I hope you and your son are doing well.
> Virgie and Hoshi
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 7:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Where Jesus Was Born
>
>
>> It also shows if the king of glory can be born in a place with manure 
>> that high, and a stench which would knock anyone over than how can we 
>> judge the circumstances of others?  How can we say to ourselves, I can't 
>> go to that persons house because it is full of refuse, or the person or 
>> house smells. Mary didn't tell Joseph, or God, I deserve better than to 
>> bare my child in a dirty smelly cave.  My theology teacher said the 
>> reason the Angels first appeared to the shepherds was because they stank 
>> of sheep.  They had to sleep with them outdoors because of the smell. 
>> The wise men , as well, must have been very special to not complained but 
>> just worshiped and gave thanks.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 6:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: Where Jesus Was Born
>>
>>
>>> When you think about where He was born it is very humbling!  Only 
>>> someone who loved us would make this kind of sacrifice so that we may 
>>> live and have eternal life if we accept Him as our Savior.
>>> Praise His Holy Name.
>>> Virgie and Hoshi
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:34 AM
>>> Subject: Where Jesus Was Born
>>>
>>>
>>>>     Bill Rice has been dead for many years.  He was a cowboy
>>>> early on in his life.  He later went into ministry work.  When he
>>>> died, he owned a 1500 acre ranch out east in one of the Carolinas,
>>>> as I recall, but his full time ministry had turned into a ministry
>>>> for the deaf.  Every summer, about 1500 deaf people came to his
>>>> ranch and would spend two or three weeks on the ranch.  They rode
>>>> horses, camped out, sat around huge bond fires, and those trained
>>>> in sign language would translate everything, including the Bible
>>>> studies they had, and the preaching services.
>>>>
>>>>     Bill went to the Bible lands once, maybe more than once, but
>>>> this one time I know about, he said, during an off time, he asked
>>>> the guide to take him to a place that he, the guide, thought was
>>>> like where Jesus was born.  The guide explained to him that
>>>> throughout Palestine, especially in those days, they didn't need
>>>> stables or barns because of all the thousands of small caves.  Of
>>>> course, many were buried in such caves.  Anybody come to mind
>>>> right off you can think of?  Jesus for example?  Anyhow, before
>>>> speaking on this same topic today at church, I read through the
>>>> Christmas stories, so called, and realizing I didn't see the word
>>>> "stable" in the stories, I did a computer search.  I was positive
>>>> I had read the word "stable" in the birth of Jesus passages of
>>>> Scriptures.  Guess what?  The word isn't even in the Gospels.
>>>> Yes, it says he was wrapped in swaddling clothes and laid in a
>>>> manger, but it says nothing about a barn or a stable.
>>>>
>>>>     Bill rice said the guide took him to a cave which had been
>>>> used once as a stable for farm animals.  The cave was empty at the
>>>> time so Bill asked the man if it was ok for him to go inside.  The
>>>> guide said that there was no light but he was welcome to enter.
>>>> Bill said when he stepped inside, the smell nearly knocked him
>>>> out.  This coming from a cowboy who was used to being around such
>>>> smells.  Secondly, Bill said that the manure he stepped into came
>>>> nearly to his boot tops.  the entire cave was this way.  He moved
>>>> around and examined the manger that was there.  He stood in this
>>>> cave and realized for the first time in his life, this was the
>>>> true humble birth of the God of the universe.  He said it changed
>>>> his life just thinking about it.  It has changed my life since I
>>>> heard this story.  I trust it will change your thoughts about
>>>> Christmas and who Jesus really is.  Think of it.  If this was like
>>>> the place Jesus was born, he was born in a cave, was buried in a
>>>> cave, and rose again from a cave.  Go Jesus.  Show 'em.
>>>>
>>>> Phil.
>>>>