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Jackie Shepherd <[log in to unmask]>
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The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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They sure do John!

At 10:51 AM 2013-08-02, you wrote:
>Jackie, one needs trigger fingers for hunting elk.  Hahaha.
>
>earlier, Jackie Shepherd, wrote:
>>Hi Vicki,
>>
>>At the risk of coming across as a know-it-all, or something like 
>>that, my husband had some of the same problems with both his 
>>hands.  He had what they call "trigger fingers" which would not 
>>allow him to open his hand.  He had to physically open certain 
>>fingers with the other hand.  He had surgery on both hands where 
>>they stretched and tied tendons in both hands and the operations 
>>were completely successful.
>>He has full use of both hands now, with only a mild triggering of one thumb.
>>
>>Currently he is out hunting and they just got his elk.
>>
>>I'll be praying for you that not only will you receive healing, but 
>>that if you must have surgery, it will be completely successful.
>>
>>Jackie
>>
>>
>>At 08:48 AM 2013-08-02, you wrote:
>>>Well, it's kind of weird. My left hand doesn't always want to 
>>>close.  It's painful to do so, most of the time. Opening it is a 
>>>challenge as well. When I have to use my other hand to open my 
>>>ring finger, for example,  it makes this pop noise and sneds a 
>>>shock wave of pain to accompany it. My wrist seems to be somewhat 
>>>unhappy as well. That's in short why the hand doc visit coming up.
>>>
>>>Vicki
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Date: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:54 pm
>>>Subject: Vicki's hand
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Vic,
>>> >
>>> > What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so 
>>> other's can hear, too.
>>> >
>>> > Phil.
>>> >
>>> > How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >   ----- Original Message -----
>>> >   From: Vicki
>>> >   To: [log in to unmask]
>>> >   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>> >   Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >   Phil and everybody,
>>> >
>>> >   Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>>> hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know 
>>> what you know.  I can't imagine having that much pain though and 
>>> I sure will be praying.  I get some living with pain myself as I 
>>> am in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped 
>>> a great deal and I have exercises to do at home which I am 
>>> doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and 
>>> praying no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be returned 
>>> to manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be 
>>> praying that for you too.
>>> >
>>> >   Vicki
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >   .
>>> >     ----- Original Message -----
>>> >     From: Phil Scovell
>>> >     To: [log in to unmask]
>>> >     Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>> >     Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>> >
>>> >     My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that 
>>> encouraging today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus 
>>> the physical tests they did, revealed my lower back is 
>>> telescoping, that is, the vertebras are all pressing 
>>> downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the disks which in 
>>> turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming in 
>>> contact with nerves which creates the pain in all the various 
>>> locations.  The pain changes from the lower back, into my hips, 
>>> back of my legs, and all the way down to my ankles.  Each back 
>>> episode, creates pain in multiple places but not the same places 
>>> each and every time.  Also, the pain level my be from mild to 
>>> severe.  They do not recommend surgery because it would take a 
>>> number of fusions of the vertebras to repair the damage that is 
>>> ongoing.  They are recommending physical therapy in order to 
>>> learn ways of exercising to the point the vertebras pull back 
>>> from each other further and thus creating less pressure on the 
>>> disks.  In short, learn to live with it.  I was hoping it would 
>>> be a single set of vertebra that could be fused but that isn't 
>>> the case.  The pain episodes will continue but hopefully, with 
>>> the PT, not as often and the exercises can be continued at home 
>>> and should help keep things in better shape; maybe.  At some 
>>> point, if the PT is helping, I can go back and get shots in 
>>> different places of my lower back to help with pain management, 
>>> if it gets unbearable, that is, but only time will 
>>> tell.  Learning to live with pain is going to be the name of the 
>>> game.  At least now I know.  Certainly not as encouraging as I 
>>> would have hoped but knowing is better than not knowing.
>>> >
>>> >     Phil.
>>> >
>>> >     Satan Has A God Complex
>>> >     www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>> >
>>> > Vic,
>>> >
>>> > What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so 
>>> other's can hear, too.
>>> >
>>> > Phil.
>>> >
>>> > How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Vicki
>>> > To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Phil and everybody,
>>> >
>>> > Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>>> hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you know 
>>> what you know.  I can't imagine having that much pain though and 
>>> I sure will be praying.  I get some living with pain myself as I 
>>> am in therapy for a torn achiles Tendon.  The therapy has helped 
>>> a great deal and I have exercises to do at home which I am 
>>> doing.  In addition, I'm headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and 
>>> praying no surgery to be necessary, and everything to be returned 
>>> to manageable and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be 
>>> praying that for you too.
>>> >
>>> > Vicki
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > .
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Phil Scovell
>>> > To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>> > Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>> >
>>> > My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that encouraging 
>>> today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, plus the physical 
>>> tests they did, revealed my lower back is telescoping, that is, 
>>> the vertebras are all pressing downward.  As they  do, they are 
>>> pressuring the disks which in turn are spreading out, slipping to 
>>> the sides, and coming in contact with nerves which creates the 
>>> pain in all the various locations.  The pain changes from the 
>>> lower back, into my hips, back of my legs, and all the way down 
>>> to my ankles.  Each back episode, creates pain in multiple places 
>>> but not the same places each and every time.  Also, the pain 
>>> level my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend surgery 
>>> because it would take a number of fusions of the vertebras to 
>>> repair the damage that is ongoing.  They are recommending 
>>> physical therapy in order to learn ways of exercising to the 
>>> point the vertebras pull back from each other further and thus 
>>> creating less pressure on the disks.  In short, learn to live 
>>> with it.  I was hoping it would be a single set of vertebra that 
>>> could be fused but that isn't the case.  The pain episodes will 
>>> continue but hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the 
>>> exercises can be continued at home and should help keep things in 
>>> better shape; maybe.  At some point, if the PT is helping, I can 
>>> go back and get shots in different places of my lower back to 
>>> help with pain management, if it gets unbearable, that is, but 
>>> only time will tell.  Learning to live with pain is going to be 
>>> the name of the game.  At least now I know.  Certainly not as 
>>> encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is better than not knowing.
>>> >
>>> > Phil.
>>> >
>>> > Satan Has A God Complex
>>> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>
>>John

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