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virgie underwood <[log in to unmask]>
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Echurch-USA The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
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Kerri,
Thanks.
Hope you are doing well.
Virgie At 09:56 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:

>I think personally you did fine, Bergie and besides you ca't rectify it now
>and God knows yoru intent.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:20 PM
>Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
>
>
>Keri,
>I was very young and very shy and scared.
>I did tell him that it was not time for me to be healed.
>I wanted to say to him that Jesus could heal me without his help, but I was
>afraid of getting a whipping when I got home.
>I hope I did not misjudge that preacher.
>Virgie At 01:46 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
>
> >Wow Bergie, that preacher soounded awful and he wanted credit,instead of
> >glorifying the lord. Whenever people ask if I believe in healing my answer
> >is yes but I don't require it.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:52 AM
> >Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> >
> >
> >Kerri,
> >When I was a young girl, my step mother took me to a preacher who was said
> >to have healing power through the Lord.
> >First, he put his hand on my head so hard that it hurt.
> >He kept pushing on my head until I thought I was going to fall.
> >He asked if I had faith in God, and did I think he could heal me.
> >I answered yes, I do have faith and I believe that Jesus could heal me.
> >He prayed, it seemed to me quite a long time.
> >He asked me can you see now?
> >I said yes, but no better than I could before you prayed.
> >He told me that it was my fault that I didn't get healed because I did not
> >have the faith.
> >I answered, that I did have faith, but that I did not think it was the time
> >that Jesus Christ had chosen for me to see.
> >I said that when it is time for me to be healed, Jesus will do it.
> >What his comments did to me was to make me doubt my faith.
> >It made me think for a while that it was my fault that I was not healed.
> >I have prayed about this and have discovered that it was not my fault.
> >I really believe that this preacher was looking for credit and glory for
> >himself.
> >I pray that Jesus will forgive me if I am wrong about that.
> >I also pray that he will reveal the truth to me about this man if I am
> >wrong.
> >I know we are not suppose to judge others, and I try not to do that.
> >I do not believe that it was abuse though.
> >My step mother wanted to help me because she loved me.
> >I can understand how you are feeling and why you feel that way.
> >Please share with us any time.
> >You will not be chastised here for your feelings and concerns.
> >Huggs and blessings.
> >Yours in Christ
> >Virgie At 01:39 AM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> >
> > >Hello all. Is there usch a thing as spiritual abuse? I as this because an
> > >issue occured when a child that I call abuse and wanted yor opinion on
> > >it.
> > >     My parents took me at a very young age to a healer probably in 1979
> > > or
> > >early eighties because they thought I was going to die of my bone
> > >disease.
> > >This man they told them, had the gift of discernment and that God
> > >revealed
> > >things about the people he prayed for. This man asked me if I had spirits
> > >in
> > >me like spirits of anger or spirits of doubt. Now mind you I was saved by
> > >the time I was 5 years old. He then plunked his hand on my head and
> > >started
> > >chanting leave leave to these spirits. I remember feeling really nervous
> > >but
> > >said nohting thinking my parents knew best. the man also said maybe I'd
> > >see
> > >soon which never happened. Well time passed, and what happened was that
> > >people ignored me a lot, I'd get rejected often, never had friends and
> > >then
> > >couldn't find work. Last December, I was wondering why I never could
> > >trust
> > >God propperly, as I have a great relationship with my dad, when the above
> > >scene was revealed to me. I remembered everything in total detail, most
> > >of
> > >which I'd forgotten. My questions are
> > >1. Is this or was this abuse and
> > >2. Do you think there is any corelation between my utter inability to
> > >find
> > >work and people ignoring me. Now please know, I dislike healing
> > >intesnely,
> > >it scares me, the holy spirit in fact I find unnerving and never knew
> > >why.
> > >What we think happened was that I subconsciously felt that since this guy
> > >asked if I had all these spirits in me, the holy spirit either was no
> > >good
> > >or thought ill of me.  to top that all off, my parents took me to these
> > >types of things repeatedly not knowing this isn't good for a child. I
> > >hope
> > >you don't think this is utter haracy, was very very nervous to reveal
> > >this
> > >to anyone. Be glad for all God is planning for you. Be patient in
> > >trouble,
> > >and always be prayerful.
> > >
> > >                               Romans 12:12, NLT
> > >
> > >
> > >
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