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I think personally you did fine, Bergie and besides you ca't rectify it now
and God knows yoru intent.
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From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: spiritual abuse


Keri,
I was very young and very shy and scared.
I did tell him that it was not time for me to be healed.
I wanted to say to him that Jesus could heal me without his help, but I was
afraid of getting a whipping when I got home.
I hope I did not misjudge that preacher.
Virgie At 01:46 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:

>Wow Bergie, that preacher soounded awful and he wanted credit,instead of
>glorifying the lord. Whenever people ask if I believe in healing my answer
>is yes but I don't require it.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "virgie underwood" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:52 AM
>Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
>
>
>Kerri,
>When I was a young girl, my step mother took me to a preacher who was said
>to have healing power through the Lord.
>First, he put his hand on my head so hard that it hurt.
>He kept pushing on my head until I thought I was going to fall.
>He asked if I had faith in God, and did I think he could heal me.
>I answered yes, I do have faith and I believe that Jesus could heal me.
>He prayed, it seemed to me quite a long time.
>He asked me can you see now?
>I said yes, but no better than I could before you prayed.
>He told me that it was my fault that I didn't get healed because I did not
>have the faith.
>I answered, that I did have faith, but that I did not think it was the time
>that Jesus Christ had chosen for me to see.
>I said that when it is time for me to be healed, Jesus will do it.
>What his comments did to me was to make me doubt my faith.
>It made me think for a while that it was my fault that I was not healed.
>I have prayed about this and have discovered that it was not my fault.
>I really believe that this preacher was looking for credit and glory for
>himself.
>I pray that Jesus will forgive me if I am wrong about that.
>I also pray that he will reveal the truth to me about this man if I am
>wrong.
>I know we are not suppose to judge others, and I try not to do that.
>I do not believe that it was abuse though.
>My step mother wanted to help me because she loved me.
>I can understand how you are feeling and why you feel that way.
>Please share with us any time.
>You will not be chastised here for your feelings and concerns.
>Huggs and blessings.
>Yours in Christ
>Virgie At 01:39 AM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
>
> >Hello all. Is there usch a thing as spiritual abuse? I as this because an
> >issue occured when a child that I call abuse and wanted yor opinion on
> >it.
> >     My parents took me at a very young age to a healer probably in 1979
> > or
> >early eighties because they thought I was going to die of my bone
> >disease.
> >This man they told them, had the gift of discernment and that God
> >revealed
> >things about the people he prayed for. This man asked me if I had spirits
> >in
> >me like spirits of anger or spirits of doubt. Now mind you I was saved by
> >the time I was 5 years old. He then plunked his hand on my head and
> >started
> >chanting leave leave to these spirits. I remember feeling really nervous
> >but
> >said nohting thinking my parents knew best. the man also said maybe I'd
> >see
> >soon which never happened. Well time passed, and what happened was that
> >people ignored me a lot, I'd get rejected often, never had friends and
> >then
> >couldn't find work. Last December, I was wondering why I never could
> >trust
> >God propperly, as I have a great relationship with my dad, when the above
> >scene was revealed to me. I remembered everything in total detail, most
> >of
> >which I'd forgotten. My questions are
> >1. Is this or was this abuse and
> >2. Do you think there is any corelation between my utter inability to
> >find
> >work and people ignoring me. Now please know, I dislike healing
> >intesnely,
> >it scares me, the holy spirit in fact I find unnerving and never knew
> >why.
> >What we think happened was that I subconsciously felt that since this guy
> >asked if I had all these spirits in me, the holy spirit either was no
> >good
> >or thought ill of me.  to top that all off, my parents took me to these
> >types of things repeatedly not knowing this isn't good for a child. I
> >hope
> >you don't think this is utter haracy, was very very nervous to reveal
> >this
> >to anyone. Be glad for all God is planning for you. Be patient in
> >trouble,
> >and always be prayerful.
> >
> >                               Romans 12:12, NLT
> >
> >
> >
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