Good for you! be blessed as you read!

Hugs,

Doris

At 01:41 PM 8/6/2013 -0500, you wrote:
>Dear Doris,
>
>No, I'm not late on the thread. Not at all. I've red every single 
>message about it, and I even downloaded the book, and I've red the 
>first part of it already, so I am not late on the thread.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Pat Ferguson
>
>At 09:35 AM 8/6/2013, you wrote:
>>You are late on the thread, aren't you, lovely lady? *smile*
>>
>>It is a book Chris and I are currently reading, which is by 
>>"Dr."Larry" Lawrence Crabb, Christian psychologist, counselor and 
>>author.I had posted it up to sendspace as an .rtf ebook and a 
>>tts2audio book read by Neospeech.
>>hth
>>
>>Doris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 08:39 AM 8/6/2013 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>>This sounds like a great book.
>>>
>>>Is it on BookShare?
>>>
>>>Okay, what does  PAPA  stand  for in the book "Papa Prayer??
>>>
>>>I mean, we know Jesus is our Papa, Daddy, Father, God, and so on. <smile>
>>>
>>>Thanks much.
>>>
>>>Blessings,
>>>
>>>Pat Ferguson
>>>At 09:39 PM 8/5/2013, you wrote:
>>>>I read the entire book Doris and her husband recommended today 
>>>>and found it well worth the time.  Unfortunately, to describe a 
>>>>form of unstructured prayer, you have to be structured, thus the 
>>>>book reads as a formula.  He makes it clear, on the other hand, 
>>>>it in no way is a formula and after reading the whole book, I 
>>>>would agree; he is not teaching prayer as a formula to 
>>>>follow.  His techniques, or outline of P A P A is easy to 
>>>>remember and that is the purpose of his outline structure.  He 
>>>>also shows how his form of prayer can become easy and automatic 
>>>>by following the PAPA outline.  His description of each point is 
>>>>down to earth and the cases to which he relates as a counselor, 
>>>>psychologist, and minister, is excellent.  On a scale of 1 to 
>>>>100, I've rate the book a 95.  I feel he left things out but as 
>>>>he admits in the book, he is just in first grade and still in the 
>>>>learning stage.  I, on the other hand, haven't even gotten to the 
>>>>school door yet, haha.  The things with which I disagreed weren't 
>>>>all that important but the basic format he uses is most certainly 
>>>>Scripturally documented and Biblical in practice and I would have 
>>>>no problem recommending it to anyone wishing to learn how to 
>>>>pray.  I know what it takes to explain the form of prayer he is 
>>>>describing because it is very similar to what I do except I can 
>>>>teach someone how to pray this form of silent prayer in one email 
>>>>message or in 5 minutes, if my voice holds out that long.  In 
>>>>fact, it is so simple, it's the reason most people don't believe 
>>>>it; it is not quite enough work in their minds.  Christianity is 
>>>>mostly taught as a form of works.  I, on the other hand, fell 
>>>>into that trap and worked my butt off trying to be the best 
>>>>Christian I could be and hoped and prayed God noticed me.  In a 
>>>>followup message, I will explain to you the type of Christian I 
>>>>am now and you will see we don't have to work at prayer because 
>>>>the work has already been done.  While I am thinking about it, 
>>>>one thing with which I definitely disagreed was his explanation 
>>>>of why our prayers are not answered.  Basically he says, it is 
>>>>because our relationship with God must be developed first and 
>>>>then we can graduate up to the point we can petition God.  This 
>>>>is not true but he did not belabor the point so I won't either.
>>>>
>>>>Phil.