ECHURCH-USA Archives

The Electronic Church

ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG

Options: Use Forum View

Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
Doris and Chris <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:35:34 -0400
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (70 lines)
You are late on the thread, aren't you, lovely lady? *smile*

It is a book Chris and I are currently reading, which is by 
"Dr."Larry" Lawrence Crabb, Christian psychologist, counselor and 
author.I had posted it up to sendspace as an .rtf ebook and a 
tts2audio book read by Neospeech.
hth

Doris




At 08:39 AM 8/6/2013 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>This sounds like a great book.
>
>Is it on BookShare?
>
>Okay, what does  PAPA  stand  for in the book "Papa Prayer??
>
>I mean, we know Jesus is our Papa, Daddy, Father, God, and so on. <smile>
>
>Thanks much.
>
>Blessings,
>
>Pat Ferguson
>At 09:39 PM 8/5/2013, you wrote:
>>I read the entire book Doris and her husband recommended today and 
>>found it well worth the time.  Unfortunately, to describe a form of 
>>unstructured prayer, you have to be structured, thus the book reads 
>>as a formula.  He makes it clear, on the other hand, it in no way 
>>is a formula and after reading the whole book, I would agree; he is 
>>not teaching prayer as a formula to follow.  His techniques, or 
>>outline of P A P A is easy to remember and that is the purpose of 
>>his outline structure.  He also shows how his form of prayer can 
>>become easy and automatic by following the PAPA outline.  His 
>>description of each point is down to earth and the cases to which 
>>he relates as a counselor, psychologist, and minister, is 
>>excellent.  On a scale of 1 to 100, I've rate the book a 95.  I 
>>feel he left things out but as he admits in the book, he is just in 
>>first grade and still in the learning stage.  I, on the other hand, 
>>haven't even gotten to the school door yet, haha.  The things with 
>>which I disagreed weren't all that important but the basic format 
>>he uses is most certainly Scripturally documented and Biblical in 
>>practice and I would have no problem recommending it to anyone 
>>wishing to learn how to pray.  I know what it takes to explain the 
>>form of prayer he is describing because it is very similar to what 
>>I do except I can teach someone how to pray this form of silent 
>>prayer in one email message or in 5 minutes, if my voice holds out 
>>that long.  In fact, it is so simple, it's the reason most people 
>>don't believe it; it is not quite enough work in their 
>>minds.  Christianity is mostly taught as a form of works.  I, on 
>>the other hand, fell into that trap and worked my butt off trying 
>>to be the best Christian I could be and hoped and prayed God 
>>noticed me.  In a followup message, I will explain to you the type 
>>of Christian I am now and you will see we don't have to work at 
>>prayer because the work has already been done.  While I am thinking 
>>about it, one thing with which I definitely disagreed was his 
>>explanation of why our prayers are not answered.  Basically he 
>>says, it is because our relationship with God must be developed 
>>first and then we can graduate up to the point we can petition 
>>God.  This is not true but he did not belabor the point so I won't either.
>>
>>Phil.
>>
>>

ATOM RSS1 RSS2