I've never heard her teach.  It should be interesting, with her accent and
all.

Cecily

-----Original Message-----
From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:22 PM
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Subject: Re: Right Church

Awesome.  Darlene always has such good teaching to share.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cecily Ballenger" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] Right Church


> Vicki and all, I forgot to mention it's City Bible Church in Portland,
> Oregon.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Vicki and The Rors
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:33 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Right Church
>
> Prayer conference.  Sounds intriguing.  Is that something your church
holds
> occassionally?
>
> Vicki
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cecily Ballenger" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] Right Church
>
>
> > That's great, Vicki.  I've been where I'm at for over 28 years.  Longest
> > I've been any where.  It's a great church.  Our prayer conference is
> coming
> > in March in case you want to pray for it.
> >
> > Cecily
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Vicki and The
Rors
> > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:05 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Right Church
> >
> > I do agree Cecily.  We were in our last church for 10 years.
> >
> > Vicki
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cecily Ballenger" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ECHURCH-USA] Right Church
> >
> >
> > > Also, I think it's important once you find a church, to stay there for
> as
> > > long as God wants you there, I mean us, me included.  No church
hopping,
> > in
> > > other words.  What do you all think?
> > >
> > > Cecily
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brad D
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 1:24 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Right Church
> > >
> > > Very good  Cecily.
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > > At 02:27 PM 2/5/2005, you wrote:
> > > >Also, if we have a bad church experience, we need to forgive those
who
> > have
> > > >hurt us.  After all, church people are human and make mistakes just
> like
> > > >other people.  We're never going to find a perfect church, just the
> > church
> > > >God has for us to join.  It's important that we find the church God
> wants
> > > us
> > > >to join.  Always ask him to help us find the right church.  Right?
> > > >
> > > >Cecily
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> > > >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Scovell
> > > >Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:31 AM
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: Right Church
> > > >
> > > >As they say, Kathy, Been there; done that.
> > > >
> > > >Phil.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 1:02 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: Right Church
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Boy Phil,
> > > > > I hear what you are saying here and, I do agree with it, but you
> have
> > to
> > > > > admit that there are those who leave the church who accuse you of
> > > > > harassment when you try to connect with them and discuss why they
> are
> > no
> > > > > longer attending.  Often, the fear of rejection makes it a little
> > touchy
> > > >as
> > > > > to when you should call and when you should let things be.  So
far,
> > Greg
> > > > > always tries to connect, but there have been those times when the
> > > >reception
> > > > > has been very nasty and the people weren't even interested in
> clearing
> > > up
> > > > > misunderstandings.  That is painful.
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 12:18 AM 1/23/2005, you wrote:
> > > > > >Finding a church is always a problem.  It seems to have become
even
> > > more
> > > > > >difficult than ever before.  I know how hard and difficult this
is
> > from
> > > > > >personal experience.  So I was meditating about this situation
the
> > > church
> > > > > >finds itself in these days.  How do you know if you are in the
> right
> > > >church
> > > > > >or not?  How can you find the church the Lord wants you to be in?
> > > Jesus
> > > > > >answers this question pretty well.  In Luke's Gospel, Chapter 15,
> > > verses
> > > >3
> > > > > >through 6, Jesus uses an owner of sheep as an example.  He
explains
> > > that
> > > > > >there is one man, who owns a hundred sheep.  Upon discovering one
> was
> > > > > >missing, he left the 99 sheep and went out looking for the one
lost
> > > >sheep.
> > > > > >Upon finding the lost sheep, Jesus says, the man rejoiced.  Have
> you
> > > ever
> > > > > >had a pastor, that was so dedicated, that if you left his church,
> he
> > > >would
> > > > > >come and find you and encourage you to return?  I have known a
> couple
> > > of
> > > > > >pastors, shepherds, who would do exactly that if someone left
their
> > > >church.
> > > > > >I personally had one pastor that was of this nature.  Otherwise,
of
> > my
> > > > > >nearly 48 years of walking with the Lord, having many pastors
over
> > > nearly
> > > >5
> > > > > >decades, I personally only have one Christian friend, with whom I
> > have
> > > >made
> > > > > >an agreement, that if either of us ever walk away from the Lord,
> > either
> > > >due
> > > > > >to sin or lack of desire or confusion or whatever the reason, we
> have
> > > >agree
> > > > > >to come after the one who has walked away and do everything in
our
> > > power
> > > >to
> > > > > >bring that one back.  We are just Christian brothers and we have
> > > >literally
> > > > > >been there for each other more than once when the wheels have
come
> > off
> > > >our
> > > > > >relationship with the Lord or when we have face spiritual
> heartache.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I left a large church once that averaged, one summer, 1800 people
> > every
> > > > > >Sunday during all three months of that summer.  I ended up
becoming
> > the
> > > > > >youngest deacon, at age twenty-one, that church ever allowed to
> serve
> > > as
> > > >a
> > > > > >board member.  I preached several times on Wednesdays and during
> > chapel
> > > > > >services in their 1000 student Christian school and spoke in
Bible
> > > > > >conferences there.  I was supported by that church financially as
a
> > > guest
> > > > > >speaker when I traveled for several years and spoke in churches.
> My
> > > >oldest
> > > > > >sister taught in their kindergarten for 26 years.  All three of
my
> > > >children
> > > > > >attended the Christian school operated by the church.  When I
left,
> > > with
> > > >my
> > > > > >family, in January of 1986 to join a Charismatic church for the
> first
> > > >time,
> > > > > >I wrote the pastor a 9 page letter.  I gave him my testimony of
how
> > the
> > > >Lord
> > > > > >had been leading me in the past 4 years and how that had led up
to
> my
> > > > > >decision to leave the church to join a Charismatic church.  He
> > answered
> > > >my
> > > > > >letter and basically said I was theologically and doctrinally
wrong
> > but
> > > >he
> > > > > >wished me the best.  He never called me.  He never came to see
me,
> > even
> > > > > >though we literally live across the street from the church.  In
his
> > > >letter,
> > > > > >he never tried to get me to think again.  He never asked if I
would
> > go
> > > >out
> > > > > >to lunch with him and talk about what had occurred in my life and
> why
> > I
> > > >was
> > > > > >leaving.  Six months after we had left, two men, both deacons
from
> > the
> > > > > >church, knocked on my door one evening.  I was home alone, for
some
> > > >reason,
> > > > > >so I invited them in.  I wondered if they were there because we
had
> > > left.
> > > > > >They talked with me for over a half an hour but nothing was ever
> said
> > > >except
> > > > > >that they hadn't seen me much lately.  They never asked if I was
> > going
> > > > > >elsewhere or if I had any problems or needs of any kind.  It
> appeared
> > > >they
> > > > > >did not even know I had left the church and become a Charismatic.
> > This
> > > >same
> > > > > >church, by the way, allowed my three children to remain in their
> > > >Christian
> > > > > >school.  When the school board voted on scholarships?  My
children
> > were
> > > > > >passed over because, we were told, we were Charismatics now.
This
> > same
> > > > > >church stopped doing business with me, I ran their entire tape
> > ministry
> > > >for
> > > > > >many years, because, they said, I was a Charismatic now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >So this is my personal opinion.  It isn't Gospel.  It isn't even
> > really
> > > > > >doctrine, although I have already told you what Jesus said about
> the
> > > > > >shepherd and his concern for just one lost sheep.  By the way,
> these
> > > were
> > > > > >100 sheep and not 100 goats.  Sheep are depicted in Scripture as
> > > >Christians,
> > > > > >and goats as those without Christ.  So, again, this is my
personal
> > > >opinion
> > > > > >so take it for what it is worth.  If you are in a church with a
> > pastor
> > > >who
> > > > > >would not care if you left, wouldn't come to at least discuss it
> with
> > > you
> > > >in
> > > > > >person, forget this telephone call garbage, and didn't care
enough
> to
> > > try
> > > > > >and get you to return, you may have a pastor but you don't have a
> > > >shepherd
> > > > > >for a pastor.  He may be called but not to pastor/shepherd sheep,
> and
> > > you
> > > > > >won't be ministered to when you need it the most.  In short, you
> > don't
> > > > > >count.  Cynicism or truth?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I was recently accused of being a cynical Christian and that if I
> > > didn't
> > > > > >change my ways, he warned, some people might take me wrong.
After
> > days
> > > >and
> > > > > >weeks, and now months, of reflection, meditation, and prayer
> > concerning
> > > >this
> > > > > >man's comments to me, I came to the conclusion, but what if I am
> > right
> > > an
> > > >d
> > > > > >they are wrong?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Phil.
> > >
> >
>