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Vicki and The Rors <[log in to unmask]>
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Good reply, Phil.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 10:51 AM
Subject: Flag debate


> I wrote this in debate with someone on a list years ago.
>
>           this statement was made:
>
>           "I'll swear, if  people aren't  worshipping a 2000  year old
dead
>           man, they're  worshipping a  multicolored rag.  And, I thought
we
>           were evolving."
>
>           Here were my comments:
>
>
>                First, He might not be dead.
>
>                Second, the symbolic meaning of  that flag is what gives
you
>           the freedom to say what you did.   You can now even stand out
in
>           front of your house and  burn that flag without being
prosecuted.
>           You can spit on it, drag  it around in the mud, or sew  it on
the
>           back of your pants or  use it for toilet paper if you  like.
Not
>           many flags like that around any more.  Do we need the  flag?
No.
>           Does it have meaning?   simple answer.  Do people  really
worship
>           the  flag  or  is the  meaning  of  the flag  the  thing  that
is
>           important to  them?  You can stand in the parade as the flag
goes
>           buy  in this  country and  while you  are  giving it  the
finger,
>           others will  stand  at attention,  place  there hand  over
their
>           heart, remove  their  hat,  and others,  who  have  served
their
>           country to give meaning to that flag and its colors, will
salute.
>           In this  country, you  don't have to  like the  flag or  even
the
>           country  it represents.  Try  that in some  other countries.
Too
>           many  people  have  died,   justly  or  unjustly,  it  makes
no
>           difference,  to  give  that  flag meaning.    Worship?
homage?
>           reverence?  If not,  how about just some common old  respect?
If
>           you don't  think things have  symbolic meaning then you  can
skip
>           that, too.  Respect I mean.  It's a free country after all.
>
>            Phil.

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