Hi Ned,
Now that's a good answer.
Vinny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ned Benton" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Conditional forgiveness??


> Hi Angel,
> Yes, the bible says we are saints, a word meaning the sanctified ones.
> However, we might ask the saints (christians) to pray for us but not to
us.
> There is nowhere in the Bible that it speaks at all about praying to
saints
> who are gone on from this life. In 1 Tim. 2/5 we read,
>
> 1 Timothy 2
> Instructions on Worship
>     1I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and
> thanksgiving
> be made for everyone- 2
> for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet
> lives in
> all godliness and holiness.
> 3
> This is good, and pleases God our Savior,
> 4who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5
> For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ
> Jesus,
>
> Jesus is the only one that the Bible authorizes us to pray to or through.
> He is the only avenue we have to God.  In Rom 8:26/27 it tells us, about
> praying,
>
>     26
> In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what
we
> ought
> to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that
words
> cannot
> express.
> 27
> And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the
> Spirit intercedes
> for the saints in accordance with God's will.
> MSo, God wants us to pray through Jesus and has given us His Spirit to
> interceede for us because we don't always know just how to pray.
>
> Hope this helps, Angel, and thanks for the question.
>
> Ned
>