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Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
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Well it opens the door to temptation and the appearance of.  But if you want ot live together that just live to gether.

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Christ is either Lord of all or he is not Lord at all.
Karen Carter '74



> what is a vow between god and two people?  If we have vowed before God and
> each other that sex will not occur until marriage, then why is living
> together a sin?  We are not intimate until then.  I understand about
> temptation but that's when you pray every day that God keeps you strong.
>
> Our situation is unique and it's not like we haven't prayed about it.  I
> guess I'm just hurt because everyone seems to think that just because we're
> going to be living together the devel is going to win.  God is the only one
> in control.  Is this our ideal situation?  no.  I've been through too much
> in the past to know what temptation can do to someone... and i... or yet
> we... will not break our vow before god.
>
> Jenifer Barr.
> When the trumpet blows... I'm outta here!
> AIM: jenibear1998
> msn
> [log in to unmask]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
>
>
> > Hey Jen,
> >         First of all, I'm sorry that you are dealing with an inflexible
> > pastor.  I don't see what difference it makes to him whether the cerimony
> > is big or small, before or after the civil cerimony.  I suppose that he is
> > standing on something for theological reasons, but I have no clue what
> > that
> > would be.  It seems to me that you are left with three options:  switch
> > pastors, move the wedding up,  or leave things as they are and trust God
> > for a miracle.  As a child of God, the one option that you don't have, is
> > to move in together.  If you begin your marriage by  compromising your
> > principles  on something that is truly small in the grand scheme of
> > things,
> > how can you be trusted for the bigger ones.  Believe me, the one thing
> > that
> > I am learning about our heavenly Father is that he is extremely creative
> > in
> > the solution department.  We often miss it because we get so stuck in
> > thinking that the only solutions available to us are the ones that we can
> > see and we shut the door on His creativity.  This is a test.  This is only
> > a test.  The question is, will you trust Him and wait for His solution and
> > timing or will you continue to see with earthly eyes only what is
> > possible.  Good luck on your adventure.  He is faithful.  Your task is to
> > remain patient and at peace!  GRIN!
> > Kathy
> >
> >
> >
> > At 05:17 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:
> >>Hi all.  As most of you know, i am getting married in november.  I found
> >>out
> >>today from work that they want me to transfer in the beginning of august.
> >>I
> >>can't tell them i won't transfer then because it is the end of our fiscal
> >>year august 31 and i could forfit my job.  Problem is though, that my
> >>fiancee and I decided that to save money... if i had to move in september
> >>or
> >>october we would just live together until the wedding.  We both don't
> >>really
> >>like the idea but it's like we have no choice.  I don't know what to do.
> >>I'm so confused... i don't know what is right and wrong.  Both my fiancee
> >>and I are born-again Christians, we will in no way have sex before
> >>marriage
> >>so if we made/make that pledge to god is living together before marriage a
> >>sin?  Is it wrong?  And what do i do if it is?  I know of other christian
> >>couples who have lived together before marriage.  I am just so scattered
> >>right now.  Please pray for clarity for me?  And above all, pray Gods will
> >>be done.
> >>I love you all.
> >>Jenifer Barr.
> >>When the trumpet blows... I'm outta here!
> >>AIM: jenibear1998
> >>msn
> >>[log in to unmask]
> >

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