Pat and Shelly,

I got heavy handed on the delete button so I have to say I believe it was
one of you who mentioned the statement of money as the root of all evil and
wondered where that came from.  I'm not sure if there is some saying that
has been passed down to us from years back with those words.  Scriptural
speaking, however, it appears that it is not the money that is the culprit.
It's our attitude toward the money.
(NKJV) 1 Timothy 6:9-11 says:
But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into
many foolish
and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition.

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have
strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through
with many sorrows.

The Good Confession
But you, O man of God, flee these things and pursue righteousness,
godliness, faith,
love, patience, gentleness.

And as The Message renders it:
1 Timothy 6:9-11:

But if it's only money these leaders are after, they'll self-destruct in no
time.

Lust for money brings trouble and nothing but trouble. Going down that path,
some lose their footing in the faith completely and live to regret it
bitterly ever after.

Running Hard
But you, Timothy, man of God: Run for your life from all this. Pursue a
righteous
life--a life of wonder, faith, love, steadiness, courtesy.
©
As Paul speaks to Timothy here, it's in the desiring riches for riches sake,
that is the problem.  Then he tells him what to run toward.    You both are
running toward those good things.  so you can count on God to provide for
your need.  And, by the way, I'm still very much in the process of learning
this lesson myself.

Pat.  I'll be praying with you about this loaned equipment and your step of
faith.  I can hardly wait to see what the Lord does for and with, and in
you.

Shelly.  I'll be praying concerning your driver;  your need as well as her
need.  That you'lll be sensitive to the Holy Spirit and be able to share the
right words at the right time.

Hugs all Around, or as you would say, Pat, squeezes.  However, you're the
official squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezer on this list.  LOL!

Vicki


----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: Stepping out on Faith and a prayer request, please


> Vicki,
>
> I do agree with you.
>
> Today Vernon lent out his cizzer lift to a guy who does contract work, and
> he's borrowing it for a week. He's also doing some work for Vernon in
> trade, so there's no money involved here.
>
> I'm praying that we're doing the right thing here. Vernon did have him
sign
> a paper so if something happens, he can't come back and sue us. That's all
> part of stepping out on faith and trusting that what we're doing is God's
> will. I don't have a bad feeling about this, either, and praying about it,
> I feel God is telling me this is the right thing to do.
>
> Thanks much for all the love and prayers.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
>
>
>
> At 11:52 PM 7/6/04, you wrote:
> >Pat, Brad, Phil and other e-church family,
> >
> >Will be praying for you Pat.  That is exciting when God gives direction.
> >
> >Brad, I appreciate what you shared.  Thinking about the what if we make a
> >mistake in thinking we hear the Lord and find out we missed it.  God
loves
> >honest faith when our heart is in the direction of following him, even if
we
> >make an honest mistake in the process.  I believe he honors our heart to
> >follow him.  Perhaps that is part of learning to hear God's voice and be
> >confident of it.  So then, we really can't lose, can we.
> >
> >Vicki
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:01 PM
> >Subject: Re: Stepping out on Faith and a prayer request, please
> >
> >
> > > Pat,
> > >
> > > It is great when we know that we know that we know a particular
direction,
> > > an it is even greater when we step out in faith in a time when we feel
a
> > > certain way is right, and later we see in fact it was God's will and
voice
> > > instructing us. I like the latter  because it is in those times when I
> > > learn to hear God's voice even more.  Imagine if our  mother's
father's or
> > > spouse or whoever, never talked? How would we recognize them among any
> > > other voice? We   begin to recognize God's voice all the more when we
hear
> > > a direction and later find it is so, as well as the times we think we
hear
> > > his voice and find out it perhaps wasn't. It is in these times of
learning
> > > we become more familiar with God's voice.
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > > Pat Ferguson wrote:
> > > >Dear Loving EChurch Family,
> > > >
> > > >Phil and Brad, I liked both your comments regarding finances and
having
> > > >faith in God to provide for us financially.
> > > >
> > > >I just can't believe what God has been teaching me lately.
> > > >
> > > >I prayed for help today, and God sent me some. I prayed for knowledge
of
> > > >how to write a certin document, and I think that God has shown me
what to
> > > >write. I prayed to God asking Him if we should really sell the
Ferguson
> > > >Enterprises.com and .biz domains, and He answered me yes. The Lord
knows
> > > >that we have taken on many projects, more than we can financially
handle,
> > > >but He also knows we're doing this for a very good reason. The Lord
knows
> > > >that if we don't get some income in here, that we'll soon be out of
> >money,
> > > >and we will not have money to pay the bills. Business has been quite
> >slow.
> > > >
> > > >Now, I pray that The Lord will show me where to insert the document I
> >have
> > > >written on our web page. The Lord also is aware of the fact that we
don't
> > > >need 3 domains and we do need to get out of debt. The Lord also knows
why
> > > >we bought Vernon's Dad's house, to rent out and have a little extra
> >income
> > > >to help us. The Lord sent us a SCANACAN Pro Elite sale today. Am I
> >Praising
> > > >God! Of course! Am I nervous about all this, yes I am. The Lord has
also
> > > >shown us that some times bartering is good in cases where there needs
to
> >be
> > > >no money involved to save everyone money. I've prayed so hard about
this
> > > >selling of our two domains, that I'm certain that this is God's will.
> >Other
> > > >people have been praying for us, too in this area. Now, I just need
to
> >know
> > > >the right thing to do to make this look good on our web site, so when
> > > >people see it, they won't think some idiate wrote it. lol.
> > > >
> > > >Your prayers would be much appreciated in these things. We are not
asking
> > > >God to make us wealthy, but just to live comfortable enough and not
have
> >to
> > > >worry about bills and credit card bills all the time. This is the
first
> > > >time in my life, that we've ever owned two homes. I'm praising God
for
> > > >that, and learning as well. Renting the house will not be easy.
> > > >
> > > >Please pray for us in these matters. I do pray we sell the domains
very
> >soon.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks much for all your love and prayers.
> > > >
> > > >Love and Blessings,
> > > >Pat Ferguson
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >    Plan ahead, It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark