Hay thanks for your support, being blind is far from teh end of the world
and if I'm still of use here then whatever goes, I don't mind. I do have
trouble too but blindness isn't going to tie me down at all.
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From: "Cindy H" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
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You know, I love what you say here..how you disagree with everyone talking
about your life being sad and pitiful. The way I see it, if that is how you
feel, and you are fine with what God's plan is for you, then there is
nothing to be healed from..is there?? I mean, with that attitude, arn't you
bringing Glory to God and singing His praises?
cindy
Kerri <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Vinny that was well said and a thorough sumation of the way I feel too. One
question is why do some think it's absolutely necessary to be physically
healed? I've heard it all my life about how sad and pitiful my life is this
way. I disagree.
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From: "Vinny Samarco"
To:
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
Hi Everyone,
I absolutely believe in the phenominon ofspiritual abuse. I have seen lots
of it in many
areas.
I don't know that I want to share my story, because it opens up a big can of
worms. However, God told me I had to forgive those preachers which were
thinking they could heal me, in order to put another notch in their gun
belt, so-to-speak.
The major problem with all this, is that the devil has been trying to work
overtime in our lives against any belief in healing.
Let's look at this strictly from a logical point of view.
1. Jesus healed blindness and many other disabilities. 2. He told his
disciples to heal the sick, raise the dead etc. 3. He told his disciples
that they would even do greater works than he did.
Now here is the questions we all must answer.
Where is it in the bible that Jesus said that all healing and signs and
wonders, and gifts of the spirit would cease after the book of Acts and the
early church?
Well, there is no such scripture. That doctrine is a doctrine of man and of
devils.
Therefore, everyone, inspite at the abuse we have all suffered under the
hands of well-meaning, and not-so-well-meaning preachers, yet, healing and
everything else God promised in His word, is for today.
The Devill has used all this garbage we have gone through, to discourage us
into believing that there is no healing or baptism in the spirit, or
anything else.
Now, though I believe in healing, I believ contrary to the healing
preachers, for the Lord heals, not the preachers. So I prefer to leave it
in the Lord's hands, and in his timing.
Nevertheless, know that God is greater than our experiences, whether they be
bad or good. And we can trust our Lord to do what he purposes to do in our
lives, no matter what the doctrines of man might be.
Vinny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Scovell"
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: spiritual abuse
> Kerri,
>
> The bottom line is, your parents loved you enough to try and do something.
> Abuse? Not really. The lies you believe, on the other hand, are getting
in
> the way of your life and relationship with the Lord. Those types of
> experiences just add fuel to the fire. There are lies that just need to
be
> cleared up is all. Jesus knows how to do that very well. You did the
right
> think by bringing it up because that is what echurch is all about.
>
> Phil.
>
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<DIV>You know, I love what you say here..how you disagree with everyone
talking about your life being sad and pitiful. The way I see it, if that is
how you feel, and you are fine with what God's plan is for you, then there
is nothing to be healed from..is there?? I mean, with that attitude, arn't
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<DIV>cindy<BR><BR><B><I>Kerri <[log in to unmask]></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Vinny that was well said and a thorough
sumation of the way I feel too. One<BR>question is why do some think it's
absolutely necessary to be physically<BR>healed? I've heard it all my life
about how sad and pitiful my life is this<BR>way. I disagree.<BR>-----
Original Message -----<BR>From: "Vinny Samarco" <[log in to unmask]><BR>To:
<[log in to unmask]><BR>Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:35
AM<BR>Subject: Re: spiritual abuse<BR><BR><BR>Hi Everyone,<BR>I absolutely
believe in the phenominon ofspiritual abuse. I have seen lots<BR>of it in
many<BR>areas.<BR>I don't know that I want to share my story, because it
opens up a big can of<BR>worms. However, God told me I had to forgive those
preachers which were<BR>thinking they could heal me, in order to put another
notch in their gun<BR>belt, so-to-speak.<BR><BR>The major problem with all
this, is that the devil has been
trying to work<BR>overtime in our lives against any belief in
healing.<BR>Let's look at this strictly from a logical point of view.<BR>1.
Jesus healed blindness and many other disabilities. 2. He told
his<BR>disciples to heal the sick, raise the dead etc. 3. He told his
disciples<BR>that they would even do greater works than he did.<BR>Now here
is the questions we all must answer.<BR>Where is it in the bible that Jesus
said that all healing and signs and<BR>wonders, and gifts of the spirit
would cease after the book of Acts and the<BR>early church?<BR>Well, there
is no such scripture. That doctrine is a doctrine of man and
of<BR>devils.<BR>Therefore, everyone, inspite at the abuse we have all
suffered under the<BR>hands of well-meaning, and not-so-well-meaning
preachers, yet, healing and<BR>everything else God promised in His word, is
for today.<BR>The Devill has used all this garbage we have gone through, to
discourage us<BR>into believing that there is no healing or baptism in the
spirit, or<BR>anything else.<BR>Now, though I believe in healing, I believ
contrary to the healing<BR>preachers, for the Lord heals, not the preachers.
So I prefer to leave it<BR>in the Lord's hands, and in his
timing.<BR>Nevertheless, know that God is greater than our experiences,
whether they be<BR>bad or good. And we can trust our Lord to do what he
purposes to do in our<BR>lives, no matter what the doctrines of man might
be.<BR><BR>Vinny<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Phil Scovell"
<[log in to unmask]><BR>To: <[log in to unmask]><BR>Sent:
Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:52 PM<BR>Subject: Re: spiritual
abuse<BR><BR><BR>> Kerri,<BR>><BR>> The bottom line is, your
parents loved you enough to try and do something.<BR>> Abuse? Not really.
The lies you believe, on the other hand, are getting<BR>in<BR>> the way
of your life and relationship with the Lord. Those types of<BR>>
experiences just add fuel to the fire. There are lies that just need
to<BR>be<BR>> cleared up is all. Jesus knows how to do that very well.
You did the<BR>right<BR>> think by bringing it up because that is what
echurch is all about.<BR>><BR>> Phil.<BR>><BR><BR><BR>--<BR>No
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